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OfflinePatlal
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Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling).
    #19171710 - 11/21/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Doorknobs in Vancouver are set to become a relic of the past after city council recently ushered in Canada’s first adaptable housing bylaw.

As of early 2014, all new housing units built in Vancouver will require a slew of new accessibility features, including wider stairways, higher outlets and a main-floor bathroom.

But the change receiving the most attention is the banishment of doorknobs, in favour of easier-to-turn lever handles.

Some have decried the loss of doorknobs as excessive and unnecessary, but according to one Toronto-based locksmith, the handles have been on their way out the door, both in Canada and the U.S., for some time.

“A lot of the manufacturers have stopped making doorknobs because they knew this was coming,” says Jason Scheide, owner of Spadina Security.

While the slow extinction of doorknobs is throwing the industry “a curveball,” Scheide said, levers are a more sensible option for those with limited strength and movement. He points to people in wheelchairs, sufferers of arthritis -- even a person returning home with groceries.

He’s been recommending levers to clients for the past five years.

One drawback, however, is the possible extra costs such a ban will bring. Since levers require an extra spring, they tend to be at least $20 more expensive than a doorknob of similar quality, Scheide said.

“That might change, but right now in the market, levers are more expensive,” he said.

In terms of decorative value, Scheide said levers are the way to go anyway.

“Doorknobs are usually dated and ugly and we’re happy to change them,” Scheide said.

Scheide wouldn’t say which handle is easier for burglars, but noted these days, locksmiths usually recommend a deadbolt as an added layer of protection.

Jill Weiss, chair of Vancouver’s Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee, said costs in general are not expected to be significant for new housing units. She dismissed talk about the doorknob debate, saying she has not heard any opposition from anyone regarding the new law, including Vancouver builders.

“It’s very important because in the lifetime of a house, almost 100 per cent of houses will have someone that needs these features so it makes real sense and it’s very inexpensive to do a construction,” Weiss told CTV News Channel on Thursday.

In addition to lever handles, requirements under the new Vancouver bylaw include:
Wider hallways and doorways
Lower light switches
Reinforcements in bathroom walls
Barrier-free shower
Lower wastepipes under sinks
Higher outlets
Main floor bathroom
Wider stairways for possible installation of a stair lift


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-doorknobs-allowed-in-new-vancouver-homes-after-city-passes-bylaw-1.1554665#ixzz2lKkIXy7T





Flathead screws should be eliminated too. Piece of shit screws


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
    #19171731 - 11/21/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19171745 - 11/21/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah right, flat head screws are way more possible to use even if you don't have a screwdriver. YOU CRAZY.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Zombi3]
    #19171760 - 11/21/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That entire list seems a little unnecessary in my opinion.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
    #19171770 - 11/21/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Levers are cooler, but this is a little too much.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: jewunit]
    #19171775 - 11/21/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily.
Flatheads > all'

I like levers more than doorknobs :blush: but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
    #19171788 - 11/21/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's all a conspiracy.. Since when does a spring (small enough for a door opening mechanism anyways) cost 20 bucks? Either some head honcho in the spring community is pulling the strings or it's the door knob handle manufacturers.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pcplease]
    #19171796 - 11/21/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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pcplease said:
Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily.
Flatheads > all'

I like levers more than doorknobs :blush: but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.




GTFO, flatheads suck, if anything needs to be outlawed it's them pointless irritating things.

They are so much harder to deal with than phillips.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: TrentBoyett] * 3
    #19171906 - 11/21/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: memes]
    #19171914 - 11/21/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to get germs on your hand to turn a doorknob, but if it's a lever handle you can use your elbow or sleeve easily :sun:


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19171929 - 11/21/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)






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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: dontknow]
    #19171941 - 11/21/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Robertson screws FTW

Also, of course the locksmith is in favour of this.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
    #19172387 - 11/21/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

We have similar shit in the U.S.  All sorts of building codes and properties exist, and many places (maybe all of them?) must be handicap accessible etc.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
    #19172415 - 11/21/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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badchad said:
We have similar shit in the U.S.  All sorts of building codes and properties exist, and many places (maybe all of them?) must be handicap accessible etc.




No, we don't. What is being implemented in Vancouver affects private dwellings. What we have in the states affects public buildings.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19172416 - 11/21/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Khii Khwaay said:
Robertson screws FTW




This. Flatheads are not self-centering and Phillips bits pop out of the screw head too easily.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: badchad]
    #19172435 - 11/21/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

they don't go nearly far enough.  A citizen should probably have to submit an application form and fee to the government for each picture they want to hang on their wall.  :smirk:


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: Patlal]
    #19172523 - 11/21/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah this is kind of messed up  :argh:


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pcplease]
    #19172935 - 11/21/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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pcplease said:
Phillips and allen head screws strip way too easily.
Flatheads > all'

I like levers more than doorknobs :blush: but the doorknobs are more aesthetically pleasing.



What??  The surface area on allen keys is huge compared to a flathead.  If you're not a moron it's very difficult to strip an allen key.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19172966 - 11/21/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How about just buying quality tools and not the shit in the bargain bin at your local auto parts shop or Harbor Freight Tools.


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Re: Doorknobs are now illegal in Vancouver (I'm not trolling). [Re: 4runner]
    #19172987 - 11/21/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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anunnakian said:
How about just buying quality tools and not the shit in the bargain bin at your local auto parts shop or Harbor Freight Tools.





No need to think anymore.  the government is involved now.  They believe everyone is too stupid to think for themselves, therefore, if flat head screws ( or allens, or phillips,) are an issue I'm sure they will issue a regulation.  :smirk:


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