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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: KGB Is Go]
#19171065 - 11/21/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know I'm kicking a hornets nest but arguing with US Americans is like trying to argue a woman into being a man.
Aus has SFA gun crime I think we had like 30 deaths last year, all illegally owned weapons and all gang related.
Y'all had like 11,000 or something? And not even bad dudes in drug wars, how many more schools need to get shot up before you realise this isn't working out?
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19171080 - 11/21/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Maybe you shouldn't be selling defective furniture as fully functional.
It wasn't defective at all. It was actually a really nice stand, I meant cheap as in I sold it to him for a cheap price... fuck-o
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171084 - 11/21/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: I know I'm kicking a hornets nest but arguing with US Americans is like trying to argue a woman into being a man.
Aus has SFA gun crime I think we had like 30 deaths last year, all illegally owned weapons and all gang related.
Y'all had like 11,000 or something? And not even bad dudes in drug wars, how many more schools need to get shot up before you realise this isn't working out?
Blah blah rights, blah blah constitution, blah blah freedom.
Actually, it all boils down to this: I like to shoot stuff. At the range, in my backyard, wherever... I don't like hunting though; I tried it once.. hit the deer in the abdomen and spent 4 hours tracking the suffering thing down so I could put it out of it's misery.
I like shooting stuff and blowing shit up. That's all. Am I a selfish prick? Absolutely. Never claimed I wasn't.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: memes]
#19171086 - 11/21/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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KGB Is Go said: A gun serves no other purpose than as an implement to hurt or kill living things (except, of course, if you're using it for recreation - like target shooting - but we aren't talking about that).
I own a gun. I take it to the shooting range, and have it in my home for defense.
Is it a weapon?
Yes, it was designed to be used as a weapon so it's a weapon even when it's sitting on a shelf. Same goes for a sword or a nuclear missile. Something designed primarily for some other use (like a kitchen knife or a motor vehicle) is normally only considered a weapon when it's being used to threaten or attack.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: psi]
#19171090 - 11/21/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My dick is a weapon..
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171107 - 11/21/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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NotTheDevil said: i should move to australia and start my own cartel. we'll be the only citizens with guns and we'll own ur assess. 
Please don't.
Hey, that wasn't me!!!
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memes said:
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KGB Is Go said: A gun serves no other purpose than as an implement to hurt or kill living things (except, of course, if you're using it for recreation - like target shooting - but we aren't talking about that).
I own a gun. I take it to the shooting range, and have it in my home for defense.
Is it a weapon?
Yes, of course. You have it for the purpose of harming/killing (i.e. defense), and you practice your skills for this reason, I presume.
If you do target practice for fun, then for that time it's not really being used as a weapon. But as soon as it leaves the range and you're no longer using it recreationally, it's a weapon.
Then my walking stick is a weapon because it serves a secondary purpose as a "just in case" weapon if necessary. The idea of a weapon is worthless unless someone actually intends to do something with it, until then its just a shiny piece of metal that could be used as a weapon, I would say that self defence is not intent to use something as a weapon but rather a planned reaction to an attack.Quote:
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Not according to Merriam Webster:
"something (such as a gun, knife, club, or bomb) that is used for fighting or attacking someone or for defending yourself when someone is attacking you."
fixed. you sir have contradicted yourself.
Guns are used to shoot people, targets, and animals. Just because one specific gun hasn't been fired at someone does not mean guns, as a group, aren't weapons.
what you said
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memes said: Its not a deadly weapon until it's in the hands of someone who has deadly intentions.
That is totally false.
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andrewmurray86 said: I know I'm kicking a hornets nest but arguing with US Americans is like trying to argue a woman into being a man.
Aus has SFA gun crime I think we had like 30 deaths last year, all illegally owned weapons and all gang related.
Y'all had like 11,000 or something? And not even bad dudes in drug wars, how many more schools need to get shot up before you realise this isn't working out?
You think schools don't get shot up where guns are illegal? Oh and nice job comparing only gun crimes for murders, like you guys have way less murders per capita. Oh and in the US, places where guns are illegal to carry have more gun deaths. Oh, but its not people who commit crimes, its guns. 








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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19171112 - 11/21/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's almost improbable to get a gun in mexico so they get em from north and south
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: Konyap]
#19171119 - 11/21/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Was this weirdo a shroomery member?
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: Schmendrick] 1
#19171125 - 11/21/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blah blah rights, blah blah constitution, blah blah freedom.
Actually, it all boils down to this: I like to shoot stuff. At the range, in my backyard, wherever... I don't like hunting though; I tried it once.. hit the deer in the abdomen and spent 4 hours tracking the suffering thing down so I could put it out of it's misery.
I like shooting stuff and blowing shit up. That's all. Am I a selfish prick? Absolutely. Never claimed I wasn't.
That's cool man, I also like doing gear like that. I live in a country where I can't do most of them and have thoroughly enjoyed the times when I have had those opportunities.
Would I enjoy it if those things were legal and free to do? Absolutely! Would it be better? Probably not because of all the nutters out there who could/would take advantage of innocent people n the process.
It's very hard and very regulated to get weapons in this country and I do believe it hurts those who are controlled and have no ill-intent but reality is that there are psychos out there who can't help themselves, bring a gun to a school, shoot the kindergarten class then shoot themselves.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: KGB Is Go] 1
#19171135 - 11/21/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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KGB Is Go said: Fucking hell. You guys bring pistols when meeting new people.
I understand it's the internet and all but why not meet at a public place or build some trust first, rather than just rocking up with a lethal weapon. Jesus Christ. This kind of thing is one of the reasons I distance myself from the USA and do not plan to visit any time soon. I'm sure it has some nice places and not everyone is gun-crazy, and all, but this is madness.
If I meet someone, the first thing I'd think of bringing is a gift - not a means to kill the person. Lordy, lordy, lordy.
Welcome to 'Murcia.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19171151 - 11/21/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You think schools don't get shot up where guns are illegal? Oh and nice job comparing only gun crimes for murders, like you guys have way less murders per capita. Oh and in the US, places where guns are illegal to carry have more gun deaths. Oh, but its not people who commit crimes, its guns. 









Australia doesn't have schools getting shot up, I also mentioned all the gun crime here is not from legally registered shooters...
11,000 murders with the weapon being a gun? that equates to gun crime = murder?
did you actually read the post?
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171155 - 11/21/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What you backeQuote:
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Schmendrick said:
Blah blah rights, blah blah constitution, blah blah freedom.
Actually, it all boils down to this: I like to shoot stuff. At the range, in my backyard, wherever... I don't like hunting though; I tried it once.. hit the deer in the abdomen and spent 4 hours tracking the suffering thing down so I could put it out of it's misery.
I like shooting stuff and blowing shit up. That's all. Am I a selfish prick? Absolutely. Never claimed I wasn't.
That's cool man, I also like doing gear like that. I live in a country where I can't do most of them and have thoroughly enjoyed the times when I have had those opportunities.
Would I enjoy it if those things were legal and free to do? Absolutely! Would it be better? Probably not because of all the nutters out there who could/would take advantage of innocent people n the process.
It's very hard and very regulated to get weapons in this country and I do believe it hurts those who are controlled and have no ill-intent but reality is that there are psychos out there who can't help themselves, bring a gun to a school, shoot the kindergarten class then shoot themselves.
The people who are going to use a gun to shoot people, or do crime won't not do so just because guns aren't legal where they live, they'll just buy them on the black market. All gun prohibition does is keep guns out of the hands of honest people and in the hands of criminals.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: koods]
#19171156 - 11/21/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I kinda want to here more about this weirdo and less about guns. Shroomery gun owners tend to get passionate about their firearms -be it for protection or fun- and thir opinions, so this thread could spiral out of control.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: Mush4Brains]
#19171158 - 11/21/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Maybe you shouldn't be selling defective furniture as fully functional.
Yeah, dude. This is highly irresponsible. What if he placed his bowling ball on it and it toppled over and landed on his dog, or worse yet, child. Think of the children.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: Schmendrick]
#19171160 - 11/21/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Schmendrick said:
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andrewmurray86 said: I know I'm kicking a hornets nest but arguing with US Americans is like trying to argue a woman into being a man.
Aus has SFA gun crime I think we had like 30 deaths last year, all illegally owned weapons and all gang related.
Y'all had like 11,000 or something? And not even bad dudes in drug wars, how many more schools need to get shot up before you realise this isn't working out?
Blah blah rights, blah blah constitution, blah blah freedom.
Actually, it all boils down to this: I like to shoot stuff. At the range, in my backyard, wherever... I don't like hunting though; I tried it once.. hit the deer in the abdomen and spent 4 hours tracking the suffering thing down so I could put it out of it's misery.
I like shooting stuff and blowing shit up. That's all. Am I a selfish prick? Absolutely. Never claimed I wasn't.
Wanna come to my house and blow shit up?
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171169 - 11/21/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're wondering our rate is 1 murder per 100,000
USA is 4.7 per 100,000
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19171188 - 11/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The people who are going to use a gun to shoot people, or do crime won't not do so just because guns aren't legal where they live, they'll just buy them on the black market. All gun prohibition does is keep guns out of the hands of honest people and in the hands of criminals.
I don't know of any incidents where a guy knifed a classroom of people the stabbed himself.
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171192 - 11/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You think schools don't get shot up where guns are illegal? Oh and nice job comparing only gun crimes for murders, like you guys have way less murders per capita. Oh and in the US, places where guns are illegal to carry have more gun deaths. Oh, but its not people who commit crimes, its guns. 









Australia doesn't have schools getting shot up, I also mentioned all the gun crime here is not from legally registered shooters...
11,000 murders with the weapon being a gun? that equates to gun crime = murder?
did you actually read the post?
Yes, you do here's a list
 Also you said "I think we had like 30 deaths last year, all illegally owned weapons and all gang related.
Y'all had like 11,000 or something?"
Kinda implied that we had 11,000 gun deaths. D'you actually read what you wrote
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andrewmurray86 said: If you're wondering our rate is 1 murder per 100,000
USA is 4.7 per 100,000
We have way more gang and drug war related violence which accounts for a large percent of murders
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171205 - 11/21/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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andrewmurray86 said: If you're wondering our rate is 1 murder per 100,000
USA is 4.7 per 100,000
japan's is 0.2 probably
your point?
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Re: i met some weirdo off the intenet today [Re: andrewmurray86]
#19171208 - 11/21/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The people who are going to use a gun to shoot people, or do crime won't not do so just because guns aren't legal where they live, they'll just buy them on the black market. All gun prohibition does is keep guns out of the hands of honest people and in the hands of criminals.
I don't know of any incidents where a guy knifed a classroom of people the stabbed himself.
*then, and here's one that happened in Japan, but he didn't kill himself only 8 students http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
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