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Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana
#19171029 - 11/21/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not big into politics but I've been thinking about this lately. How do you think republicans view medical marijuana vs democrats?
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: mutantmushroom] 2
#19171038 - 11/21/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm 99.99% sure that the Republicans want it to stay illegal more than the Democrats.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Patlal] 1
#19171056 - 11/21/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SaMe^
they are for medical
but they absolutely can not rationalize a legal herb
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Patlal] 2
#19171092 - 11/21/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, both mainstream party platforms are pretty anti-drug. But your rightwing conservative christians are very 'just say no' while your blue state liberals are more 'I smoked but didn't inhale  '.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Patlal]
#19171161 - 11/21/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Liberals are usually democrats and conservatives are usually repbulicans. Liberals are the ones that want people to do what they want, conservatives are the ones that don't.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: King Klick]
#19171180 - 11/21/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Democrats want to engage in an effectual battle, usually from an underdog perspective, Republicans want to engage in an effectual battle, probably from an alpha dog perspective.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: mutantmushroom] 2
#19171190 - 11/21/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The majority of both oppose it. More republicans do though.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: King Klick] 5
#19171201 - 11/21/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Liberals are the ones that want people to do what they want, conservatives are the ones that don't.
Well then why is that dipshit Bloomberg trying to tell people in NY how much soda they can put in their cup?
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: King Klick] 5
#19171207 - 11/21/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Liberals are usually democrats and conservatives are usually repbulicans. Liberals are the ones that want people to do what they want, conservatives are the ones that don't.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Synthe]
#19171212 - 11/21/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Synthe said: The majority of both oppose it. More republicans do though.
yea I would say the upper living room ninny class are against it a lot more on both sides
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Niffla]
#19171216 - 11/21/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well then why is that dipshit Bloomberg trying to tell people in NY how much soda they can put in their cup?

I wouldn't call him a liberal
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Synthe] 2
#19171237 - 11/21/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Liberals are the ones that want people to do what they want, conservatives are the ones that don't.
Well then why is that dipshit Bloomberg trying to tell people in NY how much soda they can put in their cup?

I wouldn't call him a liberal
Bloomberg is a textbook liberal elitist.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Synthe]
#19171244 - 11/21/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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King Klick said: Liberals are the ones that want people to do what they want, conservatives are the ones that don't.
Well then why is that dipshit Bloomberg trying to tell people in NY how much soda they can put in their cup?

I wouldn't call him a liberal
Seriously? I was under the impression that he was a pretty hardcore liberal. Idk though, maybe not. I'm clueless when it comes to politics.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Niffla] 3
#19171254 - 11/21/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bloomberg is the end result of liberal economic policies. He doesn't want a free market he wants a command economy with his handpicked cronies calling the shots and a huge underclass to be dependent on the state.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gilgamesh18] 2
#19171291 - 11/21/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You must be kidding. Democrats are far more socially liberal (hence the 'liberal' connection). In fact, most democratic policies attempt to create social justice so that people may more easily do whatever they'd like to do with their lives. Republicans seem to only want to use their power to moralize and control people, and allow corporations to enslave the population
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Lynnch]
#19171297 - 11/21/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: You must be kidding. Democrats are far more socially liberal (hence the 'liberal' connection). In fact, most democratic policies attempt to create social justice so that people may more easily do whatever they'd like to do with their lives. Republicans seem to only want to use their power to moralize and control people, and allow corporations to enslave the population
I am socially liberal I just don't support dumb socialistic economic policies hence why I vote libertarian and not republican.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19171306 - 11/21/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair enough. Oh and I'm pretty sure NYC voted in a new guy...
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Lynnch] 1
#19171375 - 11/21/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: Fair enough. Oh and I'm pretty sure NYC voted in a new guy...
Yeah, isn't he a sasquatch?
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Schmendrick]
#19171411 - 11/21/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, isn't he a sasquatch?
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Niffla]
#19171457 - 11/21/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter what party. Obviously right now democratic leaders are still enforcing the DEA raids. It will never end until enough states legalize it...
a lot of republican states have MMJ as well as democratic
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#19171462 - 11/21/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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We pay the highest taxes and still get stuck with min wage
you could pay more taxes then anyone else and they will not give you financial aid either
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Niffla] 1
#19171476 - 11/21/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm all for legalizing marijuana completely for open sale, and for decriminalizing all hard drugs for personal use. Democrats just want to over extend and have their hands in everything. I'm a libertarian at heart but a conservative in business aspects. My family survives off of two small franchises, I'd be an idiot to be liberal.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Lynnch] 1
#19171487 - 11/21/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lynnch said: You must be kidding. Democrats are far more socially liberal (hence the 'liberal' connection). In fact, most democratic policies attempt to create social justice so that people may more easily do whatever they'd like to do with their lives. Republicans seem to only want to use their power to moralize and control people, and allow corporations to enslave the population
All either party wants is control
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax]
#19171507 - 11/21/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Independent is the best way to go for MMJ...
Democratic ideas destroy business.. Conservative ideas build business but have some unmodern ideas tied to them..
I lean more towards conservative but love pot, believe in abortions, and believe the government shouldn't tell me what to eat.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Magicman69]
#19171530 - 11/21/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Magicman69 said: ...I'm a libertarian at heart but a conservative in business aspects. My family survives off of two small franchises, I'd be an idiot to be liberal.
I personally find that short sighted. I mean, I understand, more taxes = less profit. But, again, that is short sighted, and doesn't take in to account other effects of policy. Say a minimum wage increase. Boom, you have to pay your workers more thus, you lose money- But! You suddenly have more customers, and they have more money in their pockets. Screw trickle down economics, money moves up, always. Even if that doesn't apply, small business benefits from government intervention far more than the common worker. Without government intervention, the little guys get screwed big time by multinational corporations.
You think government involvement in the economy is bad for business? Tell that to communist China.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Niffla]
#19171560 - 11/21/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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so, the way i look at it is:
DEMs want the GOVERNMENT to control the economy. they want the city, state and federal budget to initialize, engineer and pay for construction/remediation projects of infrastructure (like subway remediation projects, fixing the highways, buildings parks, building new town halls, removing asbestos, cleaning up environmental contamination, etc.) in this regard, the DEMs would care less about marijuana use because they know that there are so many layers of government agencies that are going to review and check a project's scope of work before it is ultimately conducted by the contractor. i think DEMs equal state/federal construction. requiring drug testing for government jobs would be more or less a facade to appease the conservative masses. likewise, making marijuana generally illegal would be something necessary to appease the conservative population.
REPUBLICANs want huge, private corporations to control the economy. they want tax breaks for "billionaires" (where huge corporations are legally treated as a single entity) so that they can suck out as much profit from their business as possible. REPUBLICANs equal manufacturing, software, food, travel, etc. in this regard, it would be in the REPUBLICANs best interest to drug test employees at their businesses to ensure maximum efficiency of their workforce. they would want cheap, quick, smart employees to churn out as many car engines as possible without making a mistake or injuring themselves (so they don't lose a laborer and have to pay worker's comp.) unlike drug testing in the workplace, general legalization of marijuana, since it would not generate profit for business in any way (unless secretly businesses are involved in the drug trade) would be less of a concern for REPUBLICANs. such action would be only to appease the conservative masses, like in the DEMs case.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: stimpson] 2
#19171862 - 11/21/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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With a topic like this their will be inevitably argument. Please support any of your speculations with facts.
^ with your argument you are completely irrational with any of that. your saying only democrats want to build roads.. etc..
no that is not the case! Republicans want to limit spending, simply because we are broke! Saying one party is anti infrastructure is flat out wrong!
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax] 2
#19171878 - 11/21/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wrong place for this discussion because i think there is alot of republicans,democrats,and indepents here but i bet we are all pro weed
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax]
#19171920 - 11/21/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: no that is not the case! Republicans want to limit spending, simply because we are broke! Saying one party is anti infrastructure is flat out wrong!
Saying that the country with the largest GDP in the world is broke is kinda silly. It has been argued that the sequester and other austerity measures are the cause of the slow growth of the economy and job market.
Also, the Republicans dont want to limit spending, even if they say they do. They want to take money away from those they perceive as not their constituents and give it to the military and the corporations (to line their own pockets).
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Lynnch] 1
#19171940 - 11/21/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude not everything is some conspiracy. When your credit card is maxed out it is maxed out. end of story.. this isn't some fable made up on the shroomery..it's real life
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: skatealex2]
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Democrats want to ban trans fats. Marijuana is a stupid issue for stupid people. Should a doctor be allowed to prescribe it? Sure. That is still prohibition.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax]
#19171988 - 11/21/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Dude not everything is some conspiracy. When your credit card is maxed out it is maxed out. end of story.. this isn't some fable made up on the shroomery..it's real life
Did I say it was a conspiracy? The credit card analogy is cute and all, but it doesn't really work when you apply it to the multi-trillion dollar in/output of our entire country. That's really my point; this isn't some made up situation where your girlfriend maxed out her credit card by buying too many shoes, and you have to teach her a lesson about hard work by taking it away. This is the real world, with hugely complex systems and problems... that the republicans are fucking up by taking all of the money out of the system.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax]
#19172026 - 11/21/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Independent is the best way to go for MMJ...
Democratic ideas destroy business.. Conservative ideas build business but have some unmodern ideas tied to them..
I lean more towards conservative but love pot, believe in abortions, and believe the government shouldn't tell me what to eat.
Then you sir are a libertarian. I advise you to check out Gary Johnson. He is bad ass.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: trekie]
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^ idk what I am.. I don't want to have put myself into any category. I believe in common sense.
People assume that since something worked before it will work now. example: We all learned in history class that building infrastructure after WW2 helped our economy expand. Now everyone today says we need to build build build... Umm no the only reason that worked is b/c previously the US wasn't developed yet into a interconnected system. We have that now. The only thing that we can do is produce the best technology, best schools, and the best manufacturing!! Small businesses right now are barely struggling. My dads company he worked for since I was 5 went out of business last year. So don't say that this shit is working because the same has happened to millions!
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax] 1
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Well there are things that needs to be updated in our infrastructure ( electric grids fiber optics and pipelines/ better rail )
I agree with everything you just said. Regulations , high taxes and cheap imports are killing manufacturing here. Its sad
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: trekie]
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Im in kansas, republican as fuck, and everybody here smoke weed. I dont know anyone that hasnt and I work for a very large aircraft co. They ua you at the start but wont again unless you get hurt and everyone knows how to pass and where to get the right shit (randys clear) I think the fight is with the anal government
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: trekie]
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Democratic ideas destroy business.. Conservative ideas build business but have some unmodern ideas tied to them..
I lean more towards conservative but love pot, believe in abortions, and believe the government shouldn't tell me what to eat.
Then you sir are a libertarian. I advise you to check out Gary Johnson. He is bad ass.
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Yup, that is what I was thinking reading that post.
The way a lot of elections are set up though(varying state laws), registering either Independent or Libertarian locks you out of primaries. Myself I am a registered Republican, but I vote primarily libertarian.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: 4runner] 3
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The way a lot of elections are set up though(varying state laws), registering either Independent or Libertarian locks you out of primaries. Myself I am a registered Republican, but I vote primarily libertarian.
This is the way to establish libertarianism. It will never exist or come out of the Dems. Libertarian is anathema to the commie cunts
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: zappaisgod] 2
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fuck it just register as Independent.. That is the best thing to do anyways... more strategic advantage..
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax] 1
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Konyap] 5
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The second you start talking about Republican vs Democrat you're already wrong.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: Gorlax] 2
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Gorlax said: With a topic like this their will be inevitably argument. Please support any of your speculations with facts.
^ with your argument you are completely irrational with any of that. your saying only democrats want to build roads.. etc..
no that is not the case! Republicans want to limit spending, simply because we are broke! Saying one party is anti infrastructure is flat out wrong!
"Republicans want to limit spending"
So they claim, yet it's not what they practice.
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: qman]
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it should be republicans, democrats, vampires, gays, etc..
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Gorlax said: With a topic like this their will be inevitably argument. Please support any of your speculations with facts.
^ with your argument you are completely irrational with any of that. your saying only democrats want to build roads.. etc..
no that is not the case! Republicans want to limit spending, simply because we are broke! Saying one party is anti infrastructure is flat out wrong!
"Republicans want to limit spending"
So they claim, yet it's not what they practice.
Conservatives, want to conserve the old ways
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Re: Republicans vs democrat view on marijuana [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19174341 - 11/22/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Marijuana was made illegal by Democrats and they will keep it that way because as long as it is illegal they can be sure of getting your votes because they will continue to feed you the line that it could be legal - someday.
Ultra-conservative Republicans (like me) view drugs as a matter of personal conduct and is therefore beyond the purview of the state. In other words, we think that what you do with your own body is your own business.
There, now you have it explained from a real source.
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