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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19137412 - 11/14/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

use whatever is available to you. if micropore, use that, if poly fill use that.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
    #19150974 - 11/17/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So after 11 days of waiting, there seems to be a lot of change on two of the first set of jars...one other one appears as though it might start soon.  The other looks like it's contaminated...the mycelium looks wet and greyish.  I'll wait it out a few more days and if it turns out to be contaminated, i'll pasteurise it and toss it out.
This is the first one that started to colonize...and it started on the bottom. 


This is another jar i knocked up at the same time.  This is the only spot that took after 11 days.


This jar is one i knocked up 4 days ago with Golden Teacher.  I assumed on the first round the "orange" stain where the spores were was a contam , so i did 4 more, just in case.  For some reason, this set also turned orange where the spores were at. 
This time, during the steaming, i left the jars in an extra 10 minutes, (1 hr 40 minutes) and when i added water, i boiled it beforehand so when i added it the temp didn't drop too much.  Anyway.  I was really impressed that it showed colonization after 4 days :smile:


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19170854 - 11/21/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just an update....Three of the first 6 jars have definite mycelium growth.  The other 3 show no signs of any growth at all.  We used two different syringes for the 6 jars, so i'm thinking one was bogus.  Oh well...live and learn.
Here are a few pics..


Heres one of the JA jars i knocked up 8 days ago.  This one is movin pretty fast.  The other 4 jars I knocked up at the same time have no sign of any growth yet.


Here's a couple of side by sides to see the progress...the left side is day 11, and the right side is day 15...so 4 days of growth.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19170970 - 11/21/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Remove the foil....let the dry verm layer do it's job....


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
    #19171258 - 11/21/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Remove the foil....let the dry verm layer do it's job....





Even though the glasses have no lids?  There's no foil on the jars, and the foil on the glasses have holes punched in them.  There's only one layer of foil on the glass.  Should i take the foil off the glasses so it's just the layer of dry verm?


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19171345 - 11/21/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No, my bad...did not realize they were drinking glasses....carry on lol.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
    #19173717 - 11/22/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No worries, thanks for the heads up


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19185848 - 11/25/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This appears to be the only jar that will be ready to go into a FC without waiting weeks for the others to finish.  Is there a recommended mini version of any FC that can be done for one cake?  After using the search button, the only threads i could find had no pics.  This is all 4 sides of the same glass.

and this is a closeup of the newest myc growth..



Should i place the ready one in the fridge and wait for the others?  They're moving pretty slow.  The other three that have mycelium growth are only showing on one side.

3 of the original 6 jars i kocked up still show no signs of any growth at all.  At least they're not contaminated!!! lol  I'll probably toss them soon.  I think the syringe i used to knock them up was bogus.  I'm worried now that the other syringes i got will be the same.  I might order another from a different vendor, a sponsor this time, to see if i have better luck.  I'm also gonna go out today and have a look for the right jars


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19188385 - 11/25/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

once the jars are colonized 100% all the way around, you need to let the mycelium digest the substrate, especially this one as it is a highly nutritious one with the BRF flour. this usually takes past 2 weeks, but letting it sit a week longer might be best as there are reports that it can help produce better fruits. this is called a consolodation period


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up] * 1
    #19188442 - 11/25/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What is that orange growth on your one glass?


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: underfliptown]
    #19192075 - 11/26/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What is that orange growth on your one glass?



It's been there since a day or two after i knocked them up.  It's on every jar at every injection hole.  I thought it was a contam at first, but it hasn't grown or gotten worse, so i assume it's nothing to worry about.  Have you ever seen it before?  Any idea what it might be?

StateofMind404, I've read about the consolidation period, and have every intention of letting it for for the extra week or two....I was wondering if i could place it by itself in a 51 quart(48Litre) SGFC.  Seems a little big for one jar.  I have 3 others that will be ready some time afterwards...but they're colonizing pretty slowly.  I've read that you can make a FC out of almost anything, so I might try making a smaller one for this one cake while the others catch up.

How long does the perlite last in a FC?  Do you have to change it when you put new cakes in?

I'm going to try my hand at making a spore syringe if i get any fruits at all from this first cake.  Hopefully it will perform a little better.  I'd even dare try to clone it, but have no idea what i'm doing there...

Thanks for your help!


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19214712 - 12/01/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One looks like it's ready to start consolidating in the next day or so...the others are catchin up quick.  THis is the first one to go in the FC

This one ^^^ looks really wet...will it be ok?  Is that normal?

This one seems to be moving along a little faster now...it's about half way done.


This one is about 2/3 done

On this jar^^^, there seems to be some sludgy stuff where the spore solution was injected...it appeared on the other jars too, but the mycelium seemed to eat right through it....does it look familiar to anyone?  HEre's  a pic...


and this is one of the first set of jars i knocked up that i've all but given up on....this is day 25 for this one, and this is the first sign of myc growth.


I hope they turn out ok....i'd love to get some spore prints out of this first grow...


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19214994 - 12/01/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

https://files.shroomery.org/files/13-48/595574743-Jar125a.jpg

being wet like this is normal. its just mushroom piss


the orange stuff looks like bacterial infection.


why did you do glasses over glass mason jars?


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
    #19215000 - 12/01/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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its just mushroom piss



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Mycelium does not urinate, does not have a bladder, and there is no such thing as myc piss.  Why this horrible disinformation persists after we've known for over 50 years that these liquids are antibiotic and released in response to bacteria is beyond comprehension.
Next time you get sick, ask the doctor for a myc piss shot instead of antibiotics and see him look at you like you just bumped your head or fell off a turnip truck.
If your grains are infected, there will be metabolites.  If you've colonized at above normal room temperature, bacteria has been stimulated and thus the metabolites.
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It's not even a waste product, and people who call it piss are ignorant.  The liquid is excreted to help break down the substrate, and in a different formulation is produced to fight contaminant molds and bacteria.  These are the products antibiotics are made of.



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Mycelium does not urinate, not is it infused with bacteria.  Metabolites are anti-bacterial in fact.  Mix it with water and use it on your plants.  It's an excellent fertilizer.
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The mycelium secretes enzymes to help break down the substrate for digestion and also to help ward off competitors.  If you're using excessive temperature or have excessive contaminants, you'll have more of these secretions, which have nothing to do with urination.
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These enzymes can be many colors, including red.
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These enzymes are secreted to help break down substrate materials and also to help ward off competing organisms.
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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
    #19215867 - 12/02/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

"piss"

aka

metabolites.

curb your enthusiasm, son. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
    #19215869 - 12/02/13 04:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't know it sounded enthusiastic.....just clarifying.....


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
    #19215881 - 12/02/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah man, i was under the impression that mushroom 'piss' was just slang terminology for metabolites.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 404]
    #19216128 - 12/02/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so should i just wait it out and see what they smell like when i birth them?  The orange has been there from the beginning....showed up around day 2 after knock up.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: 1down5up]
    #19216146 - 12/02/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Last 2 pics are definitely contaminated.....

Doesn't look good for any of the other jars that are showing any color but white either.


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Re: My First Grow PF tek BRF [Re: PussyFart]
    #19218072 - 12/02/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I chose glasses over the jars because all i could get were standard mouth...the mouth wasn't much wider than the rest, so i was worried they'd get stuck in there.  Now that i know that they shrink when consolidated, i think they'll be ok. I'll find out soon enough.  Two of the jars are almost colonized.

Fuck...i hate the thought of starting over again....especially with the spore syringes i have.  :confused:

Think i may order another from a sponsor...hopefully i'll have better luck.


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