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New moderator needed for Political Discussion.
    #19167342 - 11/20/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The current mods are heavily biased leaning in a certain political direction.  At least one, if not two moderators are needed to balance out the the forum politically.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #19167737 - 11/20/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree the moderation staff is biased towards a particular direction, but so what?  Moderators are people too, and if they couldn't express their personal opinions or had to appear neutral, they probably wouldn't visit the forums they're supposed to moderate.

My opinion is that unless the moderator's personal views are interfering with their official duties, there is not problem.  In the political forum, I personally think Phred (and Pris) are very fair.  I've disagreed with Phred on a number of things quite strongly even before I was a moderator and there was never any hint of retaliation.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19167786 - 11/20/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Phred made a post that claimed that three users were banned.  Only two of those users were banned, and the user who wasn't has a similar political outlook as Phred.

He is biased as fuck, and more people need to be brought in to fix the current bullshit, especially when someone who bans you refuses to message you back.  It is unprofessional, and overall a scumbag move.

Phred allows people to call people known pejoratives, but does nothing about it because the people lean in the same political direction as himself.


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Phred said:
Mush4Brains, psyconaught and baldtim have all received bans. They'll be back in a few days.




11/20/13 09:15 PM (1 hour, 43 minutes ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19167321#19167321



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psyconaught said:
no he flamed. He was making a point, not hiding behind anything.




11/20/13 10:35 PM (23 minutes, 59 seconds ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19167689#19167689


Edited by Mush4Brains (11/20/13 10:04 PM)


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19167859 - 11/20/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I asked psyconaught if he was banned and this is the response I received:

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Mush4Brains said:
Were you banned from PD for your comment?
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psyconaught said:
according to the moderator i am. But i haven't received a notice yet, and have yet to try and post. So i'm not sure yet.








And then I got a second reply

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Mush4Brains said:
Were you banned from PD for your comment?
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psyconaught said:
looks like i'm not banned as of now :lol:








What the fuck?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19167954 - 11/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, have you tried asking Phred about this?  That would probably get you further than bringing it up here- none of us are going to be able to tell you what his reasoning is or whether he's going to ban anyone else any better than you can from his posts.

I guess I don't see the connection here between him not banning someone he said he was going to ban and him being biased in the performance of his official duties.  Either way, you asking someone if they were diagnosed as mentally deficient as a child was pretty clear flaming.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19168000 - 11/20/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I have tried asking Phred about this.  I have recieved no response, even though I PM'd immediately (within 5 minutes) of the notification he banned me.

But this isn't about me.  Sure, ban me, I broke the rules.  Both Prisoner #1 and Phred refuse to ban the most blatant rule violations because the people who commit the rule that violations are aligned with them politically.  Psyconaught is a perfect example.  Public announcement that the user was banned (along with the two actually banned members), and then apparently, the user isn't banned.  Bullshit.

The thing is, when other people obviously  break the rules and don't get punished, it invokes a response that isn't civil.  Then BOOM, ban, after a thread full of "Posting inflammatory comments, baiting or disrespecting other members." as Phred calls it, since you say something offensive to someone who aligns with his own political beliefs, you're banned. 

Why are there two far right-wing mods and not a single liberal moderating the forum, that's all I'm asking.


Edited by Mush4Brains (11/20/13 11:06 PM)


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #19168630 - 11/21/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As neither of the mods you named are "far right-wing", perhaps a look at your posting style is in order.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19168748 - 11/21/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree that there are moderators on this site who allow their personal biases to affect their moderation decisions, but I don't agree that phred is one of them.

Also, I don't see why he would announce that psychonaut was banned if he knew he wasn't.  That sounds more like a mistake than a bias.  If he were biased, he wouldn't mention psychonaut at all.

I'm glad to see that this thread has not been locked yet, but I suspect it will be shortly.  This site needs open discussion about this kind of thing, and although I disagree with you in this case, I certainly support your ability to initiate a public discussion about your grievances.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19168776 - 11/21/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:yawn:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil] * 4
    #19169188 - 11/21/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I also disagree with what OP has said but I will defend, to Enlil's death, his right to say it.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19170101 - 11/21/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So it turns out that Phred thought he banned psychonaught but failed.

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Phred said:
Dunno why the first attempt didn't work. Hopefully this one will.




Feel better now?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19170114 - 11/21/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Probably.

Misery loves company.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19170802 - 11/21/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
So it turns out that Phred thought he banned psychonaught but failed.

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Phred said:
Dunno why the first attempt didn't work. Hopefully this one will.




Feel better now?





No, additional moderators are needed.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19170833 - 11/21/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So, what exactly is your beef?  You admit that you were banned properly.  You admit that another person was banned properly.  You now know that the failure to ban the third person was a mistake which has likely been rectified.

What exactly do you think is the problem?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 2
    #19170856 - 11/21/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Go the nuclear route like the rest of the left does, mush.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: B_BOY]
    #19171217 - 11/21/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Go the nuclear route like the rest of the left does, mush.




Put me back on ignore, it was better that way.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19171938 - 11/21/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's real fucking convenient that Phred claims that the ban didn't work once he gets called on it.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19171977 - 11/21/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It's real fucking convenient that Phred claims that the ban didn't work once he gets called on it.




Sometimes things are convieniant because they're true.  I agree with Enlil- why would phred announce he was going to ban someone if he was biased against it?  He could have just not mentioned the other guy's infraction or quietly edited the post if he wanted to protect his side of the argument.

I think you're imagining phred putting way too much thought into this.  I imagine he just saw the violations, tried to issue some warnings, and messed up on one.  Shit happens.  :blewmeanie:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19172072 - 11/21/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Keep making excuses for the mod who is biased as fuck :dealwithit:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 6
    #19172754 - 11/21/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I really don't understand your complaint.

You broke a rule. A clear cut rule. There are very few rules in that forum that will get you banned. The most common: flaming. Is it really that hard to avoid personal insults online? If it is, frequent forums that allow flaming rather than forums that don't. If you clearly flame, then complain about mod bias, you seem petty. Phred gave the bans he said he would. One came late. Feel better now that third ban went through?

With your ban record after such a short time here, Phred was actually quite lenient with his ban. He was authorized to ban you from all forums, even to permaban you.

Really, M4B, we have had some good times online. I would hate to see you go. It is the flaming thing you haven't yet seemed to grasp. It is not hard to avoid flaming. Just don't make things personal.

Once you type, "You are a..." instead of, "Republicans seem to..." you are at risk of crossing the line.

It doesn't matter if a Mod is biased. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if somebody else flames as well. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if only two out of three flamers were banned. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

If you flame and you don't get banned, you are lucky.

I think you underestimate the amount of time The Staff has spent trying to help you be a normal, functioning Shroomerite. You have seemed to be worth the investment, but if your behavior never changes, you won't be here much longer.

Very, very few people rack up as many ban points as quickly as you have. Even fewer have racked them up in as many forums and from as many different Mods as you have. Even fewer are allowed to stay for long.

I promise M4B, we have not had a Staff meeting plotting your demise. You are doing this all by yourself.

But again, I don't understand your problem. You deserved your ban but you are mad someone else got away with it? Even though the Mod stated he would be banned? In public? So you made a thread in here insisting the Mod in question is biased? Because he only bans people with different political opinions?

Figure out how to look at the Ban o Matic. You'll be surprised how often Phred bans people from his political side. He does have little patience for flaming, and even less for n00bs with as lengthy a record as you who keep flaming in his forum. Phred has great respect for people who do not share his beliefs, if they play by the rules. He runs a DEBATE forum. Trust me. He of all people knows you can not have a good debate with just one side making a case.

Please do not prove me wrong, M4B. I don't want this lengthy post to fall on deaf ears. I am not lying to you. Stop flaming, and stop crying for being banned when you break rules. This website is for adults only. Act like one.


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