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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170248 - 11/21/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enlil said: He was there for the labianca murders...that's where he tied victims up.
Next time, before you declare "case closed" maybe you should get all of the facts...Cochise.
well, Cochise, you should be more clear in what defines murder, because if he didn't ACTUALLY murder someone himself, it's kinda unjustified to call it murder. since he didn't "murder"; and YOU DID SAY that he committed murder... then afterwards explained how he was ACCESSORY to murder. two different definitions.
but you know, legal jargon aside, we all know this shit gets made up anyways as we go along. but yeah... accomplice to murder... conspiracy to murder... accessory to murder... but not first degree murder.
but yeah, wahtever is clever.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170267 - 11/21/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never said he was an accessory. I said he was an accomplice. Pay attention, kid.
Accomplice to murder is murder...there is no difference. It doesn't matter whether you stab the guy, or just hold him while someone else stabs him. You've committed murder.
Similarly, it doesn't matter if you are the one holding the gun on the teller or driving the getaway car....you've robbed a bank.
He was convicted of 7 counts of first degree murder in the tate/labianca killings and given 7 death sentences...if it were only one, however, the outcome would be the same. He was also convicted of the Shea murder over a decade later.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170279 - 11/21/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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true true. alright, i stand corrected. i honestly thought accomplice to murder was a separate charge.
PS: before you say anything to befuddle me, i'm agreeing with your correctness, and to clarify; i'm not going to study law, just to entail that may have a conversation about it flawlessly. i can admit my mistakes, thanks in advance.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170305 - 11/21/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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In the future, you should just assume I'm correct. It'll save you embarrassment.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170311 - 11/21/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm not embarrassed, and i like have discourse with individuals whom may or may not be correct in their righteousness.
i'll never just assume you are correct; that'd be asinine.
PS: pull your head outta where the sun don't shine.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170321 - 11/21/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just trying to help you have an easier life.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170336 - 11/21/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, my life is your crass assertiveness.
oh no wait, that's my crass assertiveness.

i hate having opinions about shit i don't even care about, but unfortunately i live on this planet, so ultimately i have to take some of it's bullshit in.
you can stipulate all you want about your self-righteousness, it doesn't effect me. just causes a more dire and directionless feedback of more and often inane opinions.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: fee]
#19170358 - 11/21/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fee said:
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TheGreenArrow said: Charlie Manson is a piece of shit that helped lsd be criminalized. I'm sorry but if you've got a group of people that think your Jesus you should take the paper away.
Weird because in April of 1967 California was the last state to make lsd illegal yet the murders happened in 1969.
Time travel explains your claim.
Hmm.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170361 - 11/21/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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*its, *affect
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170384 - 11/21/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i always forget to spell it with an A. it's really too bad you had to confirm for yourself that it was a mistake, i mean, i thought you could be smart enough to tell what i meant. now we're just off-base here.
anyways, enjoy your asshood. and by enjoy, i mean, get nowhere with anyone here. nice big waste of time for you.
PS: accessory to murder, and murder might be cast in the same legal denomination, and i didn't know this... but clearly there is a faulty definition here, considering one means "ACCESSORY TO COMMITTING THE ACT" and the other means "COMMITTED THE ACT", but that's just semantics.
although, Law is semantics so... i thought it was a pretty unique difference of opinion here. not everything is about you, Enlil.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170463 - 11/21/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Again, YOU are the only one mentioning accessory to murder. That is a completely different word...and a different crime...from accomplice to murder. Accomplice means you did the crime. Accessory means you helped someone evade prosecution AFTER the crime.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170477 - 11/21/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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then explain that fact without being an ass, so can be corrected without having this trail on for an entire page. clarification. BEFORE your asshood. it'd be tremendous, thanks.
PS: you just said "murder" without clarifying how you meant "murder accomplice". if you would have been clear in the first place... we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170482 - 11/21/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did explain it:
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Enlil said: I never said he was an accessory. I said he was an accomplice. Pay attention, kid.
Accomplice to murder is murder...there is no difference. It doesn't matter whether you stab the guy, or just hold him while someone else stabs him. You've committed murder.
Similarly, it doesn't matter if you are the one holding the gun on the teller or driving the getaway car....you've robbed a bank.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170493 - 11/21/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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that doesn't explain the difference between accomplice and accessory, that quote just explains how accessory to murder is still murder.
i can't know the definition of everything, so stop assuming that i can. plus, for clarification, in case YOU missed it; YOU DID NOT explain the difference between accomplice and accessory in that post.
so don't say you did. follow the goddamn discussion.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: POWAtrippin]
#19170500 - 11/21/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Forgive the person, not the behavior.
Pshhh marriage. Maybe he's crazy.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170505 - 11/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: that quote just explains how accessory to murder is still murder.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't discuss accessory to murder at all...Are you intentionally being obtuse, or are you just that poor of a reader?
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Set]
#19170514 - 11/21/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can see he is still preying on women, his best known behavior.
And FYI, this girl is GROSS AS HELL. Take a look at what she said:
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“If we did (have conjugal visits), we'd be married by now,” Star told Rolling Stone. “You know, that's the only thing I want.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/meet-charles-manson-25-year-old-lover-star-article-1.1524765#ixzz2lJvK0tO2
Excuse me while I go barf into a bag.
Interesting side note about this girl: She was raised Baptist, huh.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: Enlil]
#19170517 - 11/21/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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are you? or are you just trying to one up me when you got nothing?
i said, (maybe you can't read?) you could have explained the difference between accomplice and accessory, which you didn't. which you just affirmed for me, still not recognizing that you're trailing away from the initial conversation. you DIDN'T hence YOU COULD HAVE; and if you would have you'd have saved alot of needless banter. if you're so behind your cause of correcting everyone's mistakes, then fucking be about it. don't just cherry pick. oh but wait, you're a troll.
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170524 - 11/21/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:

When the video was played in reverse and slowed down I could only hear him say "Give me a break... Meow, Meow"
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Re: Charles Manson to be married? [Re: akira_akuma]
#19170527 - 11/21/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The initial conversation is over. You said I was "dead wrong" because he didn't murder anyone, and now we both agree that you were the one who was dead wrong.
Now, the conversation has moved into your inability to read and see that the words "accessory" and "accomplice" are not the same, despite starting with the same three letters.
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