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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: monkshroom]
    #19165249 - 11/20/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

drinking urine?? am i missing something or is bear grylls a tripper now and posting on the forums?


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Oliveaux]
    #19165994 - 11/20/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yea man u have to drink your piss its the shit

Eventhough i have actually tried amanitas


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #19167333 - 11/20/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No. Its not like alcohol where your body builds tolerance. It is the complete opposite. It is called reverse tolerance. The compounds linger in your body so you end up needing less.


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: monkshroom]
    #19168521 - 11/21/13 02:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think of AM a sacrament... with the proper worship the dose doesnt matter... it is a mix between placebo and effect..

Something impossible and out of this reality :smile:


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: monkshroom]
    #19168860 - 11/21/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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In my view, Amanitas stand lone and proud amongst other psychedelic agents.
My moderate yet regular 20-odd year usage experience tells me it is one of the most powerful and unique yet predictable and safe substance I have ever tried.
Best things about Amanitas is you always know what you get and this is easily controlled by right dosage.
Usually I have a good stock of 2-3 big jars of dried Amanita caps harvested in a pine forest at a local national reserve. They grow on a soil of pure sand and range in colour from yellow-orange to bright dark red. Sometimes I dry them in the sun on spot, or at home in a stove if the weather is not enough sunny for fast drying (the tend to rot rather fast when under inappropriate conditions).
Some Canadian Indians have a tradition of daily eating 1-3 caps during winter to boost energy and support immune system. I have followed their way for a couple decades by now and it works like a charm.
Such small amount is not enough to produce any psychedelic effect but otherwise it is better than any other natural stimulant I know - ginseng, gingko, coffee, cacao, mate, ashwaganga, etc.
Absolutely fantastic. It has this unique feeling that you get stimulated but not through using your own body resources like in case with coffee or Red Bull. It feels like active energy comes from somewhere outside of the body and it is definitely not the energy stored in the fungi protein calories. Kind of mystic.
As for psychedelic experience, it is hi-end stuff as well. I like smoking powdered caps' skin with some good weed, they like each other damn well.
Skin of 5 to 7 medium size caps will always produce most beautiful result, especially when combined with smoked grass and 3-5 datura meteloides seeds.
There is a 10-level scale of amanita experience, the above dosage will provide the result of up to 3-rd level. This is where I always find myself in my personal experience.
Levels 4-10 range from difficult to XXX-shamanic experiences. I had a glimpse of such states several times but I never ventured there because it's neither recretation nor psychedelia but rather hard shamanic teaching in its true meaning.
I guess most of the negative vibes against Amanitas comes from people who have received such hard teaching against their recreational expectations.
Anyway, if you stay within the right dose you always get what you expected guaranteed.
On the other hand, if you feel ready for a unique life-long changing lesson of an LSD thumb-printing or Ibogaine rite class you can get it guaranteed as well.
All in all, I just love them. Precious stuff.





Wow thanks for the post!

Have you ever combined psilocybe and amanita? I am really wanting to do this mid december...

Also would it be any different making tea from amanita as opposed to powdering in coffee grinder and putting itno a fruit smoothie (like I do with psilocybe)?

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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Fungi]
    #19170060 - 11/21/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Amanitas should be toasted and eaten as is. They have a fantastic flavor.


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19170474 - 11/21/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

toasted :strokebeard: ?? i need to try this,just raw amanita and pop in the toaster? from what ive read it needs to be dried around 190 to convert the ibotanic acid to muscimol, but has anyone tried them raw or frozen to eat later? if so how was the trip:thumbup::thumbdown:


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: shroomekalb96]
    #19170481 - 11/21/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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toasted :strokebeard: ?? i need to try this,just raw amanita and pop in the toaster? from what ive read it needs to be dried around 190 to convert the ibotanic acid to muscimol, but has anyone tried them raw or frozen to eat later? if so how was the trip:thumbup::thumbdown:



No. :facepalm: They're not pop-tarts. By toasting I meant preparing them in an oven at 190. Raw is a very sweaty and blurry time.


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19170502 - 11/21/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol well you said toasted, not dried but my bad haha i just got done smokeing a couple bowls and the idea confused me so its my stoned fault :vaped:
thanks for clearing that up


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: shroomekalb96]
    #19170518 - 11/21/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lol well you said toasted, not dried but my bad haha i just got done smokeing a couple bowls and the idea confused me so its my stoned fault :vaped:
thanks for clearing that up



Drying is not the same either. That would imply you are not using heat. Like with psilocybe mushrooms for insance, heat would destroy the active compounds.


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19170568 - 11/21/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i know heat isnt good for psilocybin shrooms, and  also ive never heard the term toasted for putting them in a oven so sorry for my noobism  :okay:


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: shroomekalb96]
    #19170600 - 11/21/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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i know heat isnt good for psilocybin shrooms, and  also ive never heard the term toasted for putting them in a oven so sorry for my noobism  :okay:



hahaha I forgive thee. But think... What would happen to a piece of bread if you put it in the oven at 190!?


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19170692 - 11/21/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well i assume a toaster goes way over 190f, so bread in an oven at 190 probabily wouldnt do much to the bread besides warming it. although once again i havent cooked bread in a oven so i wouldnt know :shrug:
but an A. muscaria in toaster sounds like an insane idea now that i thought about it, so terrible question on my part. :facepalm3:


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: shroomekalb96]
    #19170728 - 11/21/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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well i assume a toaster goes way over 190f, so bread in an oven at 190 probabily wouldnt do much to the bread besides warming it. although once again i havent cooked bread in a oven so i wouldnt know :shrug:
but an A. muscaria in toaster sounds like an insane idea now that i thought about it, so terrible question on my part. :facepalm3:



No actually I toast baguettes in the oven at 190. Lol. It warms them yes, but toasts them nicely after a few minutes. You just have to leave the door ajar so the steam can escape.


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: monkshroom]
    #19176134 - 11/22/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

As far as mixing goes, my all time favorite mixed combo has been mushrooms and morning glories (or hbwr). I have never done cid and shrooms together, but I really like the "natural" synergy between the MG and shrooms.


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Re: The Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) confusion [Re: Hashfinger]
    #19192277 - 11/26/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for that big reply shneck. We'll.... i ordered about 2 ounces. So i have some left over for another time. And ill be doing it in a couple of days, so be ready for a report of how it goes :smile:


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