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Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13)
    #19170387 - 11/21/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_24570937/feds-involved-raid-at-denver-area-marijuana

Seven weeks before the nation's first retail marijuana shops open in Colorado, federal authorities Thursday morning raided more than a dozen Denver metro area marijuana facilities.

In the largest federal raid on Colorado marijuana facilities since medical marijuana became legal, federal law enforcement agents with an assist from local police officers executed search and seizure warrants at multiple dispensaries and cultivation facilities throughout the region — at least a dozen in Denver alone.

At one raid in Boulder, a pile of seized marijuana lay in the snow like Christmas trees until a front-end loader scooped it up. At the VIP Cannabis dispensary in Denver, broken glass from a shattered front window littered the parking lot while masked agents hauled boxes of evidence into a U-Haul truck.

Police turned customers away. And the dispensary's website said it would be closed on Thursday and Friday.

Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice in Denver, said the raids were being conducted by the Drug Enforcement Administration, Internal Revenue Service criminal investigations unit, the Denver Police Department and state and local law enforcement.

"Although we cannot at this time discuss the substance of this pending investigation, the operation under way today comports with the Department's recent guidance regarding marijuana enforcement matters," Dorschner said in his e-mailed statement to The Denver Post.

On Aug. 29, the U.S. Justice Department issued a memo to federal prosecutors revealing the federal government wouldn't stand in the way of marijuana legalization. The memo warned the federal government would still "aggressively enforce" eight areas of concern surrounding the drug:

• Preventing distribution to minors;

• Preventing revenue from marijuana sales from going to criminal enterprises, gangs, and cartels;


• Preventing diversion of marijuana from states where it is legal to other states;

• Preventing state-authorized marijuana activity from being used as a cover or pretext for the trafficking of other illegal drugs or other illegal activity;

• Preventing violence and the use of firearms in the cultivation and distribution of marijuana

• Preventing drugged driving and the exacerbation of other adverse public health consequences associated with marijuana use;

• Preventing the growing of marijuana on public lands and the attendant public safety and environmental dangers posed by marijuana production on public lands;

• Preventing marijuana possession on federal property.

It is unclear what areas are being investigated by federal authorities in Thursday's operation.

In March, Kevin Merrill, assistant special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's Denver field division, told The Post his investigators were aware of many instances of operators with pending license applications who would not qualify because of criminal records, failure to meet residence requirements or because they have registered the business in another name while they are in control.

At the time, he declined to elaborate, citing ongoing investigations.

Mike Elliott, head of the Medical Marijuana Industry Group, which represents some of Colorado's larger industry players, said the organization has always supported a robust and comprehensive regulatory framework and strict enforcement.

"Really, I see enforcement actions happening as a sign our industry is maturing and this program is working," Elliott said.

Elliott added that details on the enforcement actions are not available and "it's important to remember people are innocent until proven guilty."

Mason Tvert of the Marijuana Policy Project, who pushed for legalization, said he doesn't know what inspired the raids.

"The Justice Department said it would respect states' rights to regulate marijuana, and that it would not go after businesses as long as they are complying with state laws," he said in a statement.

"We hope they are sticking to their word and not interfering with any state-regulated, law-abiding businesses. ... If a business is suspected of violating state laws, they will likely face increased scrutiny, and if they are found to be in violation, they will likely face consequences. That is how our society treats alcohol, and that is how we expect to see marijuana treated."

Rob Corry, an attorney and marijuana activist, said it appears that the crackdown is focused on "mostly mom-and-pop" businesses.

"That is true to form, the DOJ, behaving like the classic schoolyard bully picking on the little guy," he said. "The DOJ needs to explain in a logical fashion why they are picking and choosing , going after only some of these entities when every one of them selling marijuana is running afoul of the federal law."

Tom Gorman, director of the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, a federal program that works with law-enforcement agencies to reduce drug trafficking and production, said he was glad to see the raid. Gorman's program was not involved in the investigation or Thursday's enforcement actions, he said.

Gorman said he does not think the timing is connected to the recent guidance to Colorado and Washington state from the DOJ, or to Colorado's looming transition to recreational marijuana retail centers.

Typically, he said, such investigations last 18 months or longer and it just takes that long to gather information for search and seizure warrants.

"I have said it before and I'll say it again — you cannot regulate this illegal industry," Gorman said. "You can't any time you talk about money and profits, and dealing with a customer base and selling product. There are too many loopholes, too many ways to get around it. You just can't do it ....

"It looks likes we are becoming a stoner state."

Andy Williams, owner of Medicine Man dispensary in Denver and a board member with the Medical Marijuana Industry Group, said he welcomed raids on businesses breaking the rules and doubts the federal government would target business indiscriminately.

"I want the bad actors gone, quite honestly," he said.

Williams said he is confident the recreational marijuana industry will be well-regulated now that Colorado voters have approved taxes that will go to oversight.

"When the revenue starts rolling in, (state officials) are going to be able to hire the people necessary to make sure they are doing their due diligence," he said. "I think the federal government is going to recognize that."

Thursday's actions are occurring roughly seven weeks before marijuana begins being sold legally to adults in retail stores on Jan. 1.

Colorado is the first state in the country to allow legal retail sales after voters in 2012 approved Amendment 64. Washington state also approved legal sales, but the retail operations won't begin until the spring.

Colorado's regulatory framework as well as Denver's framework has been criticized in recent audits.

The state audit said regulators charged with watching over Colorado's medical marijuana industry fell short on everything from tracking inventory and managing their budget to keeping potential bad actors out of the business.

Denver's audit found serious problems with how the city licenses, tracks and manages the booming medical marijuana industry in the city.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Synthe] * 2
    #19170497 - 11/21/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Even if they did nothing wrong their business is most likely ruined


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Konyap]
    #19170519 - 11/21/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thats the problem with risking so much of your life in the business of marijuana. Until it is legalized at the national level, entrepreneurs are at risk of unwarranted closure.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Synthe]
    #19170539 - 11/21/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens here


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19170625 - 11/21/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The Feds are scared because the truth is becoming more and more apparent that cannabis is going to change how people view the world that is currently allowed for us. The more we toke up and break through the lies, the more power we take back for ourselves and can begin to live more fulfilling lives. 

This shit is just beginning!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: creationdivine]
    #19170749 - 11/21/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

such fucking bullshit!  make me mad :minigun:  FEDS


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 1
    #19170753 - 11/21/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I thought Obama was going to be way more lenient?


j\k it was another lie.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: B_BOY] * 1
    #19170819 - 11/21/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought Obama was going to be way more lenient?


j\k it was another lie.





did Obama personally go to colorado and raid those businesses?  No. 

i love how idiots blame everything on the president.  You do realize the US government is made of like thousands of different people and hundreds of organizations?  The President does not have control.  the US government is a corporation--- a beast---  nobody controls it.  it controls them.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 2
    #19170831 - 11/21/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Uhh did he not say he would be more lax? I love how idiots actually believe the president :laugh2:  The buck stops at the top.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19170879 - 11/21/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Uhh did he not say he would be more lax? I love how idiots actually believe the president :laugh2:  The buck stops at the top.





sorry-- i think you place too much blame on the prez.  Remember he is the "choom captain"

honestly-- I dont think Barry has much say over what the DEA and the IRS and the FBI are doing... 


also, since when does anything a presidental candidate say ACTUALLY HAPPEN?


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 2
    #19170886 - 11/21/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I do get what you are trying to say, BUT to resort to name calling right away also says something about you. Does the prez deserve any blame? Is he in charge of anything? Everything? Or can he just keep saying I didn't know about that until i saw it in the paper?


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: creationdivine] * 1
    #19170913 - 11/21/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, this is some bullshit! The feds said that they were gonna leave us alone (not that I ever believe the shit Uncle Sam feeds us) and this is yet another example of their hypocritical ways.

There will be a time when all these uneducated ignorant dinosaurs die off and people will look back on cannabis prohibition as one of the most ridiculous and tax money wasting endeavors by the US government.

Times are gonna change whether these idiotic dinosaurs like it or not!

I'm gonna take a few bong hits for our fellow cannabis pioneers who had their livelihood ripped apart by some cowardly plankton today!

And a big FUCK YOU to the DEA!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: B_BOY] * 1
    #19170949 - 11/21/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Almost everyone who smokes medical gets it from the black market anyway.
Obama said he supported state's rights to deal medical marijuana and the he was harsher than George W. Bush on the industry.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19170961 - 11/21/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I do get what you are trying to say, BUT to resort to name calling right away also says something about you. Does the prez deserve any blame? Is he in charge of anything? Everything? Or can he just keep saying I didn't know about that until i saw it in the paper?





I didnt call you names :shrug:

but again-- the war department pressures the president to get the outcome they want.  The same with the DEA-- they pressure the president, feed him propaganda...  yes he is "in charge" of everything but I don't blame him nearly as much as I blame the system.  As a person he is no different that you or I-- still has needs, desires, struggles, all that.  In the end it is not the individual man who causes these problems, rather it is the structure of the military complex that he finds himself pitted against and may turn his back on the people in order to save his own hide.  Is it his fault he turns his back...or is it the DEA's fault for being non-compassionate and irreverent of the will of the people of the state of Colorado

EVERYONE i know wants weed legal.  Even the cops I know do too.  It's the will of the people.  Don't blame one man, the president, for the indiscriminate actions of the military/LE complex. 

the president is just a puppet.  His desires and dreams are far removed from the actual mechanism of the powers that actually create destiny within the organization we call our "government"


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 2
    #19170964 - 11/21/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

B_BOY said:
I thought Obama was going to be way more lenient?


j\k it was another lie.





did Obama personally go to colorado and raid those businesses?  No. 

i love how idiots blame everything on the president.  You do realize the US government is made of like thousands of different people and hundreds of organizations?  The President does not have control.  the US government is a corporation--- a beast---  nobody controls it.  it controls them.




If "Barry" isn't entitled to some blame, then he should not have opened his fucking mouth! Don't write checks you can't cash. If that fuckstick has little to no control over the branches of government you listed, then he should not be making promises for them! (Especially if he is doing it knowing he has no control, but thinks it will get him brownie points with the public!)


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171003 - 11/21/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If "Barry" isn't entitled to some blame, then he should not have opened his fucking mouth! Don't write checks you can't cash. If that fuckstick has little to no control over the branches of government you listed, then he should not be making promises for them! (Especially if he is doing it knowing he has no control, but thinks it will get him brownie points with the public!)





again, i dont see how you would expect anything different from a politician...


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 1
    #19171025 - 11/21/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see why you would be defending said politician!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171087 - 11/21/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i'm not defending him personally, I just hate how everyone places the blame squarely on him and ignores the flawed system that actually makes it happen...  President Obama probably wants legal weed, but the system wont let him alone create that reality... same with the whole "ending war in iraq" bullshit.  I believe he sincerely wants an end to the war, but cannot do it due to the bureaucracy bullshit standing in his way.  The same bureaucratic bullshit that makes legalizing weed so difficult.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler]
    #19171118 - 11/21/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm not defending him personally, I just hate how everyone places the blame squarely on him and ignores the flawed system that actually makes it happen...  President Obama probably wants legal weed, but the system wont let him alone create that reality... same with the whole "ending war in iraq" bullshit.  I believe he sincerely wants an end to the war, but cannot do it due to the bureaucracy bullshit standing in his way.  The same bureaucratic bullshit that makes legalizing weed so difficult.




Obama is an actor put up as a scapegoat for anything that goes wrong, like all our other presidents. Criticizing him is just eating up the medicine doled out by uncle Sam


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19171133 - 11/21/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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travelleler said:
i'm not defending him personally, I just hate how everyone places the blame squarely on him and ignores the flawed system that actually makes it happen...  President Obama probably wants legal weed, but the system wont let him alone create that reality... same with the whole "ending war in iraq" bullshit.  I believe he sincerely wants an end to the war, but cannot do it due to the bureaucracy bullshit standing in his way.  The same bureaucratic bullshit that makes legalizing weed so difficult.




Obama is an actor put up as a scapegoat for anything that goes wrong, like all our other presidents. Criticizing him is just eating up the medicine doled out by uncle Sam





thank you!

fuck.  I thought I was the only one who sees it.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19171149 - 11/21/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well you know those agents Thanksgiving going to have plenty of poultry seasoning.  Traditional pipesmoke, Probably even have a pit fire burning only Buds.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic] * 1
    #19171152 - 11/21/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Again, he should not be making those promises if he can't back them up... and for that he definitely deserves blame. He IS the leader of this country and part of that role is taking responsibility for the actions of the government he "leads". It's just the nature of the job, ask W. LOL

I live about a 5 minute walk from VIP so this story hits real, REAL close to home!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171153 - 11/21/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't see why you would be defending said politician!





Who do you propose could/can do a better job.. I/we are all ears.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: B_BOY]
    #19171164 - 11/21/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Uhh did he not say he would be more lax? I love how idiots actually believe the president :laugh2:  The buck stops at the top.



It's not as if he led the raid personally...

I'm by no means defending him, he's had numerous severe wrongdoings during his presidency, especially concerning the war on drugs. Am I disappointed? Yes. Would I have preferred Romney? No, because I think Obama would be the lesser of two evils. He's the face of a nation, but he's just some dude and at the end of the day I don't know if I'd have done a much better job. I'm still pretty fuckin irritated at the broken promises, but I should have expected it.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171196 - 11/21/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Again, he should not be making those promises if he can't back them up... and for that he definitely deserves blame. He IS the leader of this country and part of that role is taking responsibility for the actions of the government he "leads". It's just the nature of the job, ask W. LOL

I live about a 5 minute walk from VIP so this story hits real, REAL close to home!




You miss the point entirely, he's an actor



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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler]
    #19171225 - 11/21/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Uhh did he not say he would be more lax? I love how idiots actually believe the president :laugh2:  The buck stops at the top.





sorry-- i think you place too much blame on the prez.  Remember he is the "choom captain"

honestly-- I dont think Barry has much say over what the DEA and the IRS and the FBI are doing... 


also, since when does anything a presidental candidate say ACTUALLY HAPPEN?




Umm, all of those LEO organizations fall under the executive branch. "Barry" controls the executive. If he really didn't went MMJ raids to happen they would not happen.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19171337 - 11/21/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, I think you miss the point. Whether he is an actor, a puppet, a spokesman, a leader or whatever... he is still the face, the representative, the manager, the head coach of these branches and for that he is to blame for his role (just as every prez is) in the war on drugs!

Just because other people in other branches of the US government are also to blame for this ridiculous war on drugs, does not mean that the prez bares no blame at all.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171366 - 11/21/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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he is still the face, the representative, the manager, the head coach of these branches and for that he is to blame for his role (just as every prez is) in the war on drugs!




Not likely, he has sponsors - they own him.

Sure he shares in the collective blame, but his job is literally to be a scapegoat.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: sunshine]
    #19171390 - 11/21/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Almost everyone who smokes medical gets it from the black market anyway.





LOL!!

Bullshit.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19171472 - 11/21/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

And thus has begun the corporate take over of the cannabis business in Colorado. I noticed that this report stated that all these shops were small mom and pop shops. I don't know anything about this that hasn't been reported in the news but I think the larger dispensaries are behind these raids. I don't blame Obama. I blame the corporations. They probably made campaign contributions to the right people and now they can call in a few favors to get rid of a little competition. They are just thinning the herd before this business explodes in a few weeks.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: overstand]
    #19171584 - 11/21/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so---- what would be better?


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: overstand]
    #19171698 - 11/21/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And thus has begun the corporate take over of the cannabis business in Colorado. I noticed that this report stated that all these shops were small mom and pop shops. I don't know anything about this that hasn't been reported in the news but I think the larger dispensaries are behind these raids. I don't blame Obama. I blame the corporations. They probably made campaign contributions to the right people and now they can call in a few favors to get rid of a little competition. They are just thinning the herd before this business explodes in a few weeks.




WRONG! VIP is one of, if not the biggest dispensary in Denver!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19171707 - 11/21/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Who didn't see this happening to VIP cannabis. Carlos... You done fucked up. That place was a fucking joke since day one.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: overstand]
    #19171720 - 11/21/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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And thus has begun the corporate take over of the cannabis business in Colorado. I noticed that this report stated that all these shops were small mom and pop shops. I don't know anything about this that hasn't been reported in the news but I think the larger dispensaries are behind these raids. I don't blame Obama. I blame the corporations. They probably made campaign contributions to the right people and now they can call in a few favors to get rid of a little competition. They are just thinning the herd before this business explodes in a few weeks.




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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19172355 - 11/21/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now I really hope that someone wins those bitcoin pools on Assassination Market.
I pledged $100usd > in BTC's on Obama's head.  I hope the site's operator
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    #19172457 - 11/21/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

FUCK THE PO-LEES!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Novartis]
    #19172559 - 11/21/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Novartis]
    #19172579 - 11/21/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Now I really hope that someone wins those bitcoin pools on Assassination Market.
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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19173413 - 11/22/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is truly very sad. I really almost feel like crying.
Does anyone know which dispensaries or companies have been effected by this?
This is the list I have so far, but I know there are more
*VIP Wellness in Denver
*Swiss Medical in Boulder
* MarQaha in Denver


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19175588 - 11/22/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Now I really hope that someone wins those bitcoin pools on Assassination Market.
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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: hgmstl]
    #19175612 - 11/22/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/11/marijuana_dea_pot_raids_colorado_tony_montana.php





this actually makes a lot of sense... and so you see, the president had nothing to do with it.

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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler] * 1
    #19175626 - 11/22/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the president control the FEDS.. he told us he wasn't goin to do this anymore on aug 21st..

OF COURSE HES TO BLAME

fuck the conspiracy shit we all know how our gov works.. but when a president of a country says hes goin do something and it doesn't happen.. its HIS FAULT..

I feel bad for these guys.. ive been to vip .. a there not the top of food chain but u gotta think. all these shops were gearin up for jan 1st.. they loaded there patient count sky high so they can meet the demand come jan 1st .. and even if there was some bad apples.. it took down some legit ppl

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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: aysen]
    #19175667 - 11/22/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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OF COURSE HES TO BLAME

fuck the conspiracy shit we all know how our gov works.. but when a president of a country says hes goin do something and it doesn't happen.. its HIS FAULT..




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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: aysen]
    #19175671 - 11/22/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you could be right--- but I still disagree that it is the president's personal fault.  Was it JFK's fault that he got shot in the head?  His goons are supposed to protect him at all cost-- life or death, and he is their boss right??  yet they failed to protect him--- so is it his fault?


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19175688 - 11/22/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

not sayin its right or we all didn't see it happening to some point

but the fact is.. its his fucking fault and hes to blame

esp since he went outta his way to say otherwise and companys were goin be safe as long as they kept it in the laws

its lifes destroyed .. familys torn apart.. its BS


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    #19175702 - 11/22/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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but the fact is.. its his fucking fault and hes to blame




Werd, and Napoleon was a one man army. Obama doesn't care about everyone hating on him, he's got the money and SS agents for body guards. Personally if I had some confidence in the individuals who make up society and was aiming to do something to make things better for them, I would look at the big picture.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler]
    #19175727 - 11/22/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Uh... that article does not prove shit about whether the President is to blame or not!

If you think that this was not approved, brought to the attention or even mentioned to the President, then sir you are some new kind of naive. And I mean that with all due respect.

If these fucksticks are gonna take down the real criminals like "Tony Montana", then they should figure out a way to do it less recklessly and give some respect to the people who ARE legit. Which means not tearing everything up in sight first.

When the feds raid dispensaries, the do it in a manner not too far off from "shoot first, ask questions later". People do work hard at being legit and following all guidelines, just as there are bad apples out there who will take an extra mile and fuck up while doing so.

When they shut down a bar or liquor store for violations, they sure as hell don't get the swat to go in guns drawn, breaking windows, confiscating and destroying inventory and vandalizing shit on the way out. You don't see that with crooked pharmacies selling shit out the back door.

I don't care if it's G. Washington, A. Lincoln, G.W. Bush or B. Obama. If the president allows such reckless and damaging raids in which many innocent people have their livelihood destroyed while making promises on the contrary, then you would have to be ignorant to defend him and say he does not deserve any blame!


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19175782 - 11/22/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Uh... that article does not prove shit about whether the President is to blame or not!

If you think that this was not approved, brought to the attention or even mentioned to the President, then sir you are some new kind of naive. And I mean that with all due respect.

If these fucksticks are gonna take down the real criminals like "Tony Montana", then they should figure out a way to do it less recklessly and give some respect to the people who ARE legit. Which means not tearing everything up in sight first.

When the feds raid dispensaries, the do it in a manner not too far off from "shoot first, ask questions later". People do work hard at being legit and following all guidelines, just as there are bad apples out there who will take an extra mile and fuck up while doing so.

When they shut down a bar or liquor store for violations, they sure as hell don't get the swat to go in guns drawn, breaking windows, confiscating and destroying inventory and vandalizing shit on the way out. You don't see that with crooked pharmacies selling shit out the back door.

I don't care if it's G. Washington, A. Lincoln, G.W. Bush or B. Obama. If the president allows such reckless and damaging raids in which many innocent people have their livelihood destroyed while making promises on the contrary, then you would have to be ignorant to defend him and say he does not deserve any blame!





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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: isic]
    #19175785 - 11/22/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

again-- i'm not saying you're wrong.

BUT

i think the president has about as much control over these things as a puppet has over it's puppet-master. 

He might own some of the blame in the same way a dog's owner is blamed for the dogbite.  These paramilitary type raids are the result of very bad training and they are very BAD DOGS. 


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler]
    #19176163 - 11/22/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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again-- i'm not saying you're wrong.

BUT

i think the president has about as much control over these things as a puppet has over it's puppet-master. 

He might own some of the blame in the same way a dog's owner is blamed for the dogbite.  These paramilitary type raids are the result of very bad training and they are very BAD DOGS. 


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I think this is an excellent point. He's a policymaker, the most he tends to give is little nudges... powerful little nudges, sometimes in the wrong direction, and it's a damn shame, but it's absurd to place all the fault on him alone.


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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: travelleler]
    #19176814 - 11/22/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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again-- i'm not saying you're wrong.

BUT

i think the president has about as much control over these things as a puppet has over it's puppet-master. 

He might own some of the blame in the same way a dog's owner is blamed for the dogbite.  These paramilitary type raids are the result of very bad training and they are very BAD DOGS. 


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Fair enough, I see your point and think it is very sound. But with that said, I don't think Barry is free of blame for raids such as these.


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    #19178493 - 11/23/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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you could be right--- but I still disagree that it is the president's personal fault.  Was it JFK's fault that he got shot in the head?  His goons are supposed to protect him at all cost-- life or death, and he is their boss right??  yet they failed to protect him--- so is it his fault?



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Re: Feds raid MMJ dispensaries in Denver, CO (11/21/13) [Re: Novartis]
    #19178549 - 11/23/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Now I really hope that someone wins those bitcoin pools on Assassination Market.
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So, I'll be honest, and say that I don't fully understand what you're saying here, in its proper context. However, I'll tell  you what it sounds like. What it sounds like you said, is that you've pledged 100 USD equivalent in BTC if someone kills Obama.


Now, if that is actually what you meant, I have to congratulate you on making what is quite possibly The Most Retarded Shroomery Comment Ever. It would be in the running, at least. Pretty much tied for first place with DPR's... ahem, excuse me... "altoid's"....  "Hey, any 'a you guize ever heard of this Silk Road thingie?" post.



Threats against anyone are a crime. Threats against the president are a very serious crime. And people have gotten a visit from the secret service, just for running their mouths online. I've read about a few cases this year alone. The shroomery has been subpoenaed before. If they get a subpoena they will hand over your data.



Not to mention the fact that such a thing would help no one. In the slightest. But that's almost aside from my point.


And perhaps I'm interpreting your post wrong. But that one is part of my point. I would not make a post like that where there could even be any ambiguity as to the innocence of my intent. Not when it comes to subjects like that. Doesn't seem smart.


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