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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19187015 - 11/25/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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with every string to be made a discordant melody, from our soulless divide.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19187043 - 11/25/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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dats beutifool.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19187061 - 11/25/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha i try and be beutifool.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19187355 - 11/25/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hate the both of you.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Repertoire89]
#19187379 - 11/25/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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you secretly love the both of us; entangled in the withholding of our efficacy, you wish you could hold onto the veritable likeness of our being, but can only see the ripples of it in your own reflection.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19187414 - 11/25/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think we have found meaning here
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: redgreenvines]
#19187422 - 11/25/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: I think we have found meaning here
you can find it in the strangest of places. where you see not with your eyes, but with the displacement of shadows on your subconscious mind.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Repertoire89]
#19187575 - 11/25/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: I hate the both of you.

I'm quite used to it.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19187632 - 11/25/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: absolutely. i truly believe that is what Nietzsche wanted. 
Yeah, Nietzsche, from my understanding of his works, was trying to give man a new way to perceive the world. He wasn't pessimistic so much as he was trying to help people realize their full potential and create something out of life.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: r72rock]
#19187732 - 11/25/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: r72rock]
#19189951 - 11/26/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: absolutely. i truly believe that is what Nietzsche wanted. 
Yeah, Nietzsche, from my understanding of his works, was trying to give man a new way to perceive the world. He wasn't pessimistic so much as he was trying to help people realize their full potential and create something out of life.
"What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end." - Nietzsche
it sounds pretty pessimistic to me
you are not helping when you tell somebody that he is not an individual being it is like saying that humans don't suffer they only accept to project realities about something else which is not happening really on them nor about
claiming the greatness of being a bridge is simply negating the reality of being, it is clearly in opposition with truth that all philosophers know, any is more the living whole actual fact then all in truth, the present is through absolute individuality, present being
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: absols]
#19190025 - 11/26/13 12:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes, do choose to express yourself, only without word salads and incoherence.
it's pessimistic to say that people are not an end? so it's a good thing to think your forthright in every and all things, because it all ends at your own mind and being? that sounds confusing, because to me, being connected to people and the planet and our thoughts and emotions, makes us who we are... not some individuals concept of "truth".
saying that, is not like saying that "humans aren't suffering but that they are just projecting a reality that isn't actually happening to them and around them." it's the opposite. a person a bridge, is identifying the cause and effect of people's actions, and how they choose to identify with their surroundings as if IT IS THEM. which isn't true. it's not a projection of reality, that isn't happening to them, or happening somewhere else; it is a projection of their own palliate endurance to the subjected pain and/or suffering they are experiencing. people can happy in the most absurd and furious conditions, because they choose to project these sensibilities onto the world.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19190273 - 11/26/13 02:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yes, do choose to express yourself, only without word salads and incoherence.
it's pessimistic to say that people are not an end? so it's a good thing to think your forthright in every and all things, because it all ends at your own mind and being? that sounds confusing, because to me, being connected to people and the planet and our thoughts and emotions, makes us who we are... not some individuals concept of "truth".
saying that, is not like saying that "humans aren't suffering but that they are just projecting a reality that isn't actually happening to them and around them." it's the opposite. a person a bridge, is identifying the cause and effect of people's actions, and how they choose to identify with their surroundings as if IT IS THEM. which isn't true. it's not a projection of reality, that isn't happening to them, or happening somewhere else; it is a projection of their own palliate endurance to the subjected pain and/or suffering they are experiencing. people can happy in the most absurd and furious conditions, because they choose to project these sensibilities onto the world.
this is you invention totally, your salad incoherence in words
first, how do you mean another expression choice when you are the judge of its form ? which clearly prove the choice being yours only while if anyone choose to express himself in words, the form is all what he is there, the wording, the way of putting different words for a same end totally free of the words means ends this is what art mean too, the artist and philosophy being the philosopher only
where did I mention myself means there, it was just a simple opposition to your statement in inventing the value out of something that Nietzsche said
when something is not what you say it is, then it is not its opposite either ..how is it so hard for you to understand that ?
being relative is the right mean, and then yes of course you can be whatever you want to yourself as long as you are being it yourself alone so not involving everything and everyone else with
why do anyone mean to do something if he doesn't believe it being the best subjectively?? while it is for sure right objectively, any is only absolute superiority to appear being constant and free, so unique value of truly existing why would anyone keep anything if it is not real nor true ??
your perspectives on others negatively makes my point more then anything else
you cannot talk about negative things as being others existence positive ways and wills..this is like destroying everything as it exists in truth
people are not bridges when they clearly say the opposite while being mortal confirms it, any human lives totally for himself free when everything he is through dies but his freedom somewhere still as his own spirit, his individual right in true existence realms as the matter of fact the fact is freedom superiority then any is the matter of free individuality
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: absols]
#19190340 - 11/26/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is you invention totally, your salad incoherence in words

now that my brain hurts. i shall finished reading this post for the luls. who knows, maybe some tasty tid bits are in this post, but off the bat... you can tell... it's gonna be a doozy.
EDIT: yeah, right, that's what i'm saying. people choose their ideas from what's subjectively right to the observer, which is themselves; but when they view their life through the means in which they create their life, they can only see what it is to them, and not the truth.
the truth is for all beings, not just the one, but the truth solely hinges on one's TRUE believes; thus it can never be shared, only calculated.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19190345 - 11/26/13 03:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19190354 - 11/26/13 03:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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whew, i tried. i damn well tried.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19190371 - 11/26/13 03:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like Nietzsche in that he recognized the bridge! the evolution of brain circuitry/consciousness.
from here, to there, which becomes here and there comes soon enough..right up to the envisioned "Superman" and on.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: hTx]
#19192685 - 11/26/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: hTx]
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hTx said: I like Nietzsche in that he recognized the bridge! the evolution of brain circuitry/consciousness.
from here, to there, which becomes here and there comes soon enough..right up to the envisioned "Superman" and on.
he was a sick man, he died by loosing his dignity as a conscious being, so the idea of superman is pathetic
you should know better how bridges cannot exist, when existence is true, then any is its clear individual end the fact reality
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