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Re: Mans search for meaning. [Re: Icelander]
#19178214 - 11/23/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Seems to me that a majority of discussions here center around things for which no sure conclusions can be drawn due to lack of physical evidence. Yet the opinions can get fierce and battle lines drawn and no one willing to conceed that it answers are unknowns.
Does anyone here think there will actually come a time when we don't play this game?
No I don't think so, at least not until we do know the answers to things, which I don't think will happen any time soon, and for some things (eg: existence of god or a higher power) we will never know. While educating people in how to reason logically and the scientific method will help, it doesn't change the fact that there are tons of brilliant scientists and philosophers who have a mental block when it comes to questioning their faith. I don't think death anxiety / existential crisis is going away any time soon.
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Just wanted to hear you say it.
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Re: Mans search for meaning. [Re: Icelander]
#19178302 - 11/23/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Just wanted to hear you say it. 
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liked that poetry in motion ditty
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Re: Mans search for meaning. [Re: Icelander]
#19183546 - 11/24/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone here think there will actually come a time when we don't play this game?
I hope not. For me, the search for meaning has ben the path of sanity in an insane world. The Master Game is one of the "High Games," and one that I shifted to after "The Science Game." It has made all the difference in my life, not getting brainwashed by the game mentalities of the multitudes and settling for the "Trophies" of the lesser games which don't even address meaning but substitute 'toys' and 'roles' instead. Most people are like babies, easily distracted by the shiniest, loudest rattle that is shaken before their eyes. That some little girl named Miley Cyrus can shake her ass on a stage, and actually become newsworthy, supports my point. That some pathetic man tattoos a likeness of this girl on his arm, others on his hands and forearms, and her name across his chest, further illustrates how meaninglessness can result in the adoration of banality. This form of culture-worship attempts to substitute obsession and [pop] idol worship for meaning.
http://www.livereal.com/spiritual_arena/spiritual_members/master_game.htm
 http://www.crushable.com/2012/06/20/other-stuff/miley-cyrus-fan-grown-man-15-tattoos-lyrics-face-wtf-246/
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personally, i find meaning in meaninglessness. music... poem and literature... film... a sunny new day... a rainy new day... thinking thoughts...
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MarkostheGnostic said: Does anyone here think there will actually come a time when we don't play this game?
I hope not. For me, the search for meaning has ben the path of sanity in an insane world. The Master Game is one of the "High Games," and one that I shifted to after "The Science Game." It has made all the difference in my life, not getting brainwashed by the game mentalities of the multitudes and settling for the "Trophies" of the lesser games which don't even address meaning but substitute 'toys' and 'roles' instead. Most people are like babies, easily distracted by the shiniest, loudest rattle that is shaken before their eyes. That some little girl named Miley Cyrus can shake her ass on a stage, and actually become newsworthy, supports my point. That some pathetic man tattoos a likeness of this girl on his arm, others on his hands and forearms, and her name across his chest, further illustrates how meaninglessness can result in the adoration of banality. This form of culture-worship attempts to substitute obsession and [pop] idol worship for meaning.
http://www.livereal.com/spiritual_arena/spiritual_members/master_game.htm
 http://www.crushable.com/2012/06/20/other-stuff/miley-cyrus-fan-grown-man-15-tattoos-lyrics-face-wtf-246/
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Re: Mans search for meaning. [Re: Hobozen]
#19184996 - 11/24/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Non sequitur.
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hint: i was agreeing (with most of it)
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Hobozen]
#19185619 - 11/25/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was thinking to myself how 'shamanic' endeavors are best seen in the light of refreshing the mind (spirit) kind of like a good rinse; or an immersion in the stream.
Not more than that (and not less either, habits become so smooth - unquestionably).
so I took my little salvia mini-pipe and smoked it there in the bath as I used to do. and in less than 2 minutes I too was searching for meaning.
"is there anything I know?
I watched the rainbow-nian persistence of moments fill the room with bright jewelled pyramids or fulcra where any noticing had happened in my visual field, and that was both pleasing to me to see (eye-candy) and to understand (a slower overlapping moment fading process), but I did not understand the scary dark tension vibration that was building (also magnified in time and space).
between one context and the next I was lost and there was no meaning but the dark building pressure in my chest or gut.
I moved to get more comfortable and found that introducing washing movements and water sensations was a huge relief.
then the heavy dark vibrations slowly moved on away like an army had invaded and marched on.
I think it was just one heavy truck (or street-car more likely)in traffic outside.
anyway, I am now rinsed and fluffed and the drippy time frame is drying as well.
Sometimes I wonder how many people die when a truck goes by and they overreact to their time-shifted perspective.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: redgreenvines]
#19185716 - 11/25/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You really were out there on your own.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: redgreenvines]
#19185729 - 11/25/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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sorry to say that, but it is funny how truly positive you are alone out of pointing everything being not true...
but I guess you know that already.. it is all about your fun
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: absols]
#19186398 - 11/25/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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it hardly meant that to me - but I could see that it meant that to you. huge differences in meaning set and setting probably
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: redgreenvines] 2
#19186844 - 11/25/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it's pretty cool that the two of you understand each other. 
I have such little luck in that area.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19186880 - 11/25/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i love it when Nihilism shifts into acceptance.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#19186936 - 11/25/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Makes it worth it to some degree.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: Icelander]
#19186946 - 11/25/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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absolutely. i truly believe that is what Nietzsche wanted.
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Re: Mans search for meaning in the bathtub [Re: akira_akuma]
#19186952 - 11/25/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sure he's up in heaven with his little black harp looking down on the two of us in approval.
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