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Thirty30


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PF Tek Overview
#19168307 - 11/21/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Found an old email I sent my friend describing Pf Tek thought id throw it up here for others to read.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2 This will be your best friend.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek Watch this first and write the steps out and follow them exactly how he says.
This is what you need:
- X amount of *HALF PINT* jars. Try and get the short stubby ones but the tall ones are fine to. - Storage container.... bigger the better make sure its clear. This is what you put the cakes in and drill the holes like we did that one time. Holes are 1/4" in size. 1"x1" apart, top, bottom, sides - Per light... that white stuff, you put in the container. Make sure to rinse it before you put it in the tub. Rinse it every two weeks or so to keep it wet. You want it about 3-5" deep - Brown rice flour... The brand i have is Bobs red mill. its like $5. Make sure its brown rice flour - Vermiculite.... Buy a big bad if you think you will keep growing cause you will need it for about everything at this level. coarse grade vermiculite is best but not necessary - 6500k Light bulb and something to hold it like a aquarium light for lizards - tin foil - pressure cooker..... You can boil the jars in water but a pressure cooker will defiantly pay off and reduces the chance of con tams by 100. buy one for sure. The ones with the pressure gauges are nice but more expensive. This will be the most expensive thing you will ever buy for cultivating so if you can afford it make it worth it. - rubbing alcohol - Lysol - latex gloves
I think that's all you will need. watch the video to make sure and surf around on the shroomery mushroom cultivation fourm and get and idea of what there doing. You can learn a lot from it.
In the video when he inoculates the jars he uses a glove box iv never used one i just clear out my bathroom wipe everything down with alcohol and spray the shit out of it with Lysol.
Here is an outline of what you do based on the video.
Recipe for 5 cakes (jars) -1 cup brown rice flour - 240ml -1 cup water - 240ml -2 cups vermiculite - 480ml (usually comes up a bit short on the last jar if that happens just make more jars hah).
-stir water and verm first then add the flour. you want it to be light and fluffy with no pools of water at the bottom of bowl.
Fill the jars
- dont pack, wipe sides of lip with clean paper towel, you dont want shit chillin on the sides. Cover the tops with foil don't forget to do this it will ruin the substrate. - Leave 1/2" for a dry verm layer - it acts as a con tam barrier
Cooking
- Cover bottom of pressure cooker with jar lids or something if you dont have any laying around idk what else iv always had extras. Then add a top layer of aluminum foil and then put the jars in. - Add enough water so it wont run out and its no more than 3/4 up the side of the jar. If you have enough jar lids you can do another layer and keep the jars out of the water completely which would be best. - With your PRESSURE COOKER not pot of water, Bring it to 15psi and keep it there for 90min. If you lack the pressure cooker cover the pot with a lid and do the same 90min sterilize. Iv don't it with a pot of water and it worked but wouldn't recommend it at all. - Let the jars cool over night if there hot it will kill the spores and you will have to start over.
Inoculation
- get a couple paper towels and your alcohol wipe and stray your bathroom. Take everything in open air out and spray let it sit for 5min come back and spray again. Get a face mask thing if you can. Wipe the counter your working on really well with alcohol and your gloves. Shake your syringes to get all the spores loosened up. Open the pressure cooker inside that room don't carry the jars into the room. - I like to wipe the needle with alcohol then flame steralize it, run the light under the needle tip and up and down it for a few seconds or until some water shoots out. let it cool for a few seconds then insert the needle into the hole and squirt the spores down the SIDE of the jar. no directly in it, also dont shoot it in the dry verm at the top shoot it on sides so it runs down the jar. Try and do 1cc per jar so 1/4cc for each hole. ***Flame sterilize the needle between every jar so if one is contaminated it wont spread to the next one......hopefully - Don't leave the tin foil on take it off. prior to inoculation of course.
colonizing
- now just set the jars in your closet or something, 75-81 degrees is ideal. Once the jars are completely white (myceilium) let them sit for one more week to allow the mycelilium to consolidate. Check on them just don't tip them over and toss em around to check for con tams. If you see something funny send me a pic or post it on the shroomery. I fucked up a dozen jars cause they smelt bad but found out it was just the smell of the cooked flour so don't let that fool you. Colors are bad if its not white somethings wrong. I usually see growth after seven days sometimes less.
Dunk and Roll
- this is simple. take the cake out of the jar rinse it off and roll it in some dry vermiculite to coat it.
Fruiting
- put you cake on a piece of foil or jar lid. - About 4 time a day mist and fan and keep light on 12/12 cycle.
Harvesting
- Once the veils break you can pick them or let them open up more ( if there open they weight more, Closed are more potent) CUT the mushrooms as close to the base as you can with out cutting into the cake, dont pull them off. - After you get the mush let it dry, you can probably put it outside where you dry em in the sun or put a fan to them.
Second, third, fourth flushes
- Now you take the cake and submerge it in water for 24hours. this rehydrate the cake, do what you did before and add another layer of dry verm. put back in chamber and it should flush again more or less than the first time. Not sure how many flushes you get out of one cake yet some of mine are pushing a fourth flush.
That's about all there is to it. a lot to read but once you do it you will get a better idea of how its done. Again watch the video use shroomery and you should harvest in about a month.
I can tell you about how to make prints which is super easy and making a syringe out of that print. Pretty much you cut the mushroom cap off with a clean knife/siccors put on a piece of foil that you wiped down with alcohol and cover with a jar, put a penny between the table and jar for some air, wait 24hrs come back lift off cap and get another square piece of foil clean it with alcohol and fold the edges together, label and store it in a bag. For a syringe boil water, suck up boiled water into syringe, let sit for a min, squirt out, do that about 5 times. Last time keep the water in and let it cool over night. The next day when the water in the syringe isn't hot bring it into you sterile room and squirt the water into a shot glass, then take your print and scrape the spores into the shot glass with the needle and then suck it all up sterilize the needle and let the spores hydrate for a day before you use them. flame the needle before you squirt the water into the shot glass as well as after.
Other things you can look up are monotubs, I got a few going right now there for bulk grows, if you get the PF Tek down try these out this is where you get alot of mushrooms. Study the video. Peace - j bones
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cronicr



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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: Thirty30]
#19168319 - 11/21/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thirty30 said: I can tell you about how to make prints which is super easy and making a syringe out of that print. Pretty much you cut the mushroom cap off with a clean knife/siccors put on a piece of foil that you wiped down with alcohol and cover with a jar, put a penny between the table and jar for some air, wait 24hrs come back lift off cap and get another square piece of foil clean it with alcohol and fold the edges together, label and store it in a bag.
don't wipe the foil with iso, it's good to go off the roll
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cronicr



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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: cronicr]
#19168337 - 11/21/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok im not done yet, course grade verm is not the best fine grade verm is, and pf jars should only need about 60 minutes in a pc not 90, and when harvesting your not really getting anymore weight when after the veil tears it's water weight at best but once dried it's the same. and another one is re rolling after your first flush, this is not reccomended, only roll once after the initial dunk, other then that nice little write upand sorry to be a nit pick lol
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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: Thirty30]
#19168369 - 11/21/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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#1 your version of Dunk and Roll leaves a bit to be desired. a rinse is not a dunk.
#2 you may want to bring up the punching of the holes, and not assume that a n00b knows what you're talking about
#3 don't dry them in the sun: use a dehydrator or fans to dry them out... maybe some desiccant depending on how long you want to store them
Edited by OgreLokon (11/21/13 01:28 AM)
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Thirty30


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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: cronicr]
#19168495 - 11/21/13 02:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: ok im not done yet, course grade verm is not the best fine grade verm is, and pf jars should only need about 60 minutes in a pc not 90, and when harvesting your not really getting anymore weight when after the veil tears it's water weight at best but once dried it's the same. and another one is re rolling after your first flush, this is not recommended, only roll once after the initial dunk, other then that nice little write up and sorry to be a nit pick lol
Appreciate the comments. 60-90min always done 90, why not. The alcohol on foil id let air dry before putting cap on, personal thing I guess. Re rolling after each flush and dunk I always thought was suggested...? Oh yeah the holes in box I remember he was there with me so i didn't include it in the email. No worries!
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Thirty30


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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: OgreLokon]
#19168497 - 11/21/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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#3 don't dry them in the sun: use a dehydrator or fans to dry them out... maybe some desiccant depending on how long you want to store them
He was living in Arizona at the time. But yeah your right.
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Edited by Thirty30 (11/21/13 02:35 AM)
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OgreLokon
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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: Thirty30]
#19168508 - 11/21/13 02:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So am I. Sunlight still isn't recommended. It's dry enough here to not need it.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: PF Tek Overview [Re: OgreLokon]
#19168553 - 11/21/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Recipe for 5 cakes (jars) -1 cup brown rice flour - 240ml -1 cup water - 240ml -2 cups vermiculite - 480ml (usually comes up a bit short on the last jar if that happens just make more jars hah).
This makes me think I was doing something wrong with PF Tek. I always had WAAAAAAY alot leftover after 5 jars with room for a half inch layer of verm on top.
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