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Shroomery Agenda Shills
    #19168074 - 11/20/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx] * 3
    #19168080 - 11/20/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx] * 3
    #19168082 - 11/20/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




Where do I sign up for this job?


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: abltsandwich] * 2
    #19168094 - 11/20/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




Where do I sign up for this job?




Seriously.  I go out of my way to make disparaging comments about religion and spiritualism.  OP, do you have a link to an application I can fill out or something?  I think I am qualified for the position.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168095 - 11/20/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:itseveryone:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168102 - 11/20/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




icelander is fine in my book.


orgone conclusion however....:gooby:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx] * 9
    #19168108 - 11/20/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP can't handle other people's opinions, blames illuminati :aweoverdose:


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    #19168114 - 11/20/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I lol'd


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: gzuf] * 2
    #19168119 - 11/20/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.





Could it be that maybe, somewhere, there are people who don't agree with you? 


Naaaw, just people paid to say they do, I'm sure.


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OP can't handle other people's opinions, blames illuminati :aweoverdose:




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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: fiddle]
    #19168130 - 11/20/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?



lol im not upset i always stand by my views and enjoy the banter as I know what I'm talking about for the most part.

I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.

I've several times pointed this out and always win, if anything they are the ones overly upset with views that are different than materialism.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168140 - 11/20/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now I'm butthurt... I am super smart and militantly atheist.  How come OP doesn't think I am a paid shill? 

I WANT YOU TO THINK I AM A SHILL, DAMMIT!!

Where is the butthurt crybaby thread? I need to make a new post.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168150 - 11/21/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Its called disinformation/propaganda and this has happened plenty throughout history to confuse truth.

I don't think it would be so far fetched that agenda agents could have infiltrated into the shroomery, a forum where most of the users take plenty psychedelics meaning high potential for serious inquiries about the nature of reality, to confuse and discredit whatever inquiry that could be 'dangerous' to materialist philosophy (a philosophy which reduces man to a machine and completely scoffs at anything that has to do with consciousness/empowerment).


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168161 - 11/21/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think theres only one shroomery shill and the name is hTx

i see him around the shroomery trying to propagate his inane conspiracy theory agenda

probly working for the government most definitely


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: johnm214]
    #19168165 - 11/21/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.





Could it be that maybe, somewhere, there are people who don't agree with you? 


Naaaw, just people paid to say they do, I'm sure.


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OP can't handle other people's opinions, blames illuminati :aweoverdose:






I think you are a paid shill as well, tbh, with all of those completely uncalled for bans out of nowhere when I had been posting in that forum in the same style for 1k+ posts...and than all of a sudden you become a mod and my bans/warnings went off the charts..

I almost left the shroomery completely because of that. :hatsoff:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Envix] * 1
    #19168167 - 11/21/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Envix]
    #19168168 - 11/21/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i think theres only one shroomery shill and the name is hTx

i see him around the shroomery trying to propagate his inane conspiracy theory agenda

probly working for the government most definitely



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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19168172 - 11/21/13 12:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




Where do I sign up for this job?




Seriously.  I go out of my way to make disparaging comments about religion and spiritualism.  OP, do you have a link to an application I can fill out or something?  I think I am qualified for the position.




Fuck. I've been doing this for free, too. I'm such a stupid DNA robot.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168174 - 11/21/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?



lol im not upset i always stand by my views and enjoy the banter as I know what I'm talking about for the most part.

I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.

I've several times pointed this out and always win, if anything they are the ones overly upset with views that are different than materialism.




It sounds like you're just as close minded as you suppose them to be.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: fiddle]
    #19168198 - 11/21/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:kelsoburn:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Niffla]
    #19168203 - 11/21/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:cookiemonster:

This dude obviously has some problems if he thinks there are paid shills on the shroomery. What's the bug deal if I want him to help him figure that out about himself?


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: fiddle]
    #19168214 - 11/21/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing. I'm with you. Educate that bro.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Niffla]
    #19168230 - 11/21/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yup, no paid shills here.    :godfuckingdammit:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Schmendrick] * 1
    #19168234 - 11/21/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thats just what a shill would say


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Envix]
    #19168236 - 11/21/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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thats just what a shill would say




OMG Thank you. :thumbup:  :headbang3:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Niffla]
    #19168239 - 11/21/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Us rational folk could believe all these conspiracy and spiritualism fanatics are paid shrills, considering how vehemently they stick to their positions... But, we're rational.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168242 - 11/21/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:tinfoil:


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    #19168253 - 11/21/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:tinfoil:




We get royalties every time someone uses that gremlin. And this one :ancientaliens:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: fiddle]
    #19168273 - 11/21/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?



lol im not upset i always stand by my views and enjoy the banter as I know what I'm talking about for the most part.

I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.

I've several times pointed this out and always win, if anything they are the ones overly upset with views that are different than materialism.




It sounds like you're just as close minded as you suppose them to be.



lol naa i can see things from many perspectives and I consider every perspective seriously before I come to the conclusion that its bullshit.

Close minded individuals see nothing but their own perspective and refuse to give consideration or serious thought to any thing which challenges their beliefs, because they hold their beliefs dear to them, and feel like they themselves are their beliefs, so a challenge to these beliefs is in their minds on some level, a challenge to their life! But only because they believe themselves to be the very thing being challenged, their egos. This is why on psychedelics, with their ego-softening/killing ability we are occasionaly able to see and accept that everything we know we actually have no clue about and entirely new and different perspectives can develop about the way you live, the way you think, and the way you view yourself.



Just the amount of time OC and icey spend in those forums is enough to make me suspicious.

:paranoid:


But seriously, no one here believes that shills even exist and get paid?

I was a shill for a cell-phone company one time, and I got paid $15 an hour to write beneficial reviews all day.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168279 - 11/21/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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But seriously, no one here believes that shills even exist and get paid?




Who is doing the paying, and for what purpose?  To keep people from 'discovering the truth about reality'?  I think you are going to have to do better than that.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168280 - 11/21/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

WiccanSeeker is definitely a shill, paid by the NAACP to incite white guilt and spread the neo black panther movement within the neo hippie culture, which is ofc really backed by the liberal radical socialism movement.

NWLight is a shill lobbying for underground ferret fighting rings.

I also heard that Learyfan and ChinaCat (or something like that) work for the CIA. One of them might have knowledge of the real Paul McCartney's burial site.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: RiderOnTheStorm] * 1
    #19168362 - 11/21/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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WiccanSeeker is definitely a shill, paid by the NAACP to incite white guilt and spread the neo black panther movement within the neo hippie culture, which is ofc really backed by the liberal radical socialism movement.

NWLight is a shill lobbying for underground ferret fighting rings.

I also heard that Learyfan and ChinaCat (or something like that) work for the CIA. One of them might have knowledge of the real Paul McCartney's burial site.




:callingbullshit: that all sounds pretty far fetched to me


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168446 - 11/21/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
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fiddle said:
Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?



lol im not upset i always stand by my views and enjoy the banter as I know what I'm talking about for the most part.

I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.

I've several times pointed this out and always win, if anything they are the ones overly upset with views that are different than materialism.




It sounds like you're just as close minded as you suppose them to be.



lol naa i can see things from many perspectives and I consider every perspective seriously before I come to the conclusion that its bullshit.

Close minded individuals see nothing but their own perspective and refuse to give consideration or serious thought to any thing which challenges their beliefs, because they hold their beliefs dear to them, and feel like they themselves are their beliefs, so a challenge to these beliefs is in their minds on some level, a challenge to their life! But only because they believe themselves to be the very thing being challenged, their egos. This is why on psychedelics, with their ego-softening/killing ability we are occasionaly able to see and accept that everything we know we actually have no clue about and entirely new and different perspectives can develop about the way you live, the way you think, and the way you view yourself.



Just the amount of time OC and icey spend in those forums is enough to make me suspicious.

:paranoid:


But seriously, no one here believes that shills even exist and get paid?

I was a shill for a cell-phone company one time, and I got paid $15 an hour to write beneficial reviews all day.




You don't even know the definition of the word ego. Of course they're going to disagree with you. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Look up Freud on Wikipedia. He wrote about the id, the ego and the super ego.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168475 - 11/21/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: koraks]
    #19168516 - 11/21/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:



word.

glad I made your day better with some humor.

:cheers:

obviously no one here believes in the presence of online shills to spread disinformation and contain the masses within a specific state of consciousness.

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168519 - 11/21/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, I do, just not these ones.

Real shills generally make you believe that this plastic $25 knife beats the crap out of any proper chef's knife; five stars highly recommended!

Now go back to the conspiracy forum and make a post on how the shills messed with you in the pub.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168529 - 11/21/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:



word.

glad I made your day better with some humor.

:cheers:

obviously no one here believes in the presence of online shills to spread disinformation and contain the masses within a specific state of consciousness.

:shrug:




There is no specific state of consciousness. Everyone experiences a constant stream of consciousness. It is never the same for any individual person. It is completely different from moment to moment. On top of that, people's brains are all different. Nobody has ever had the exact same state of consciousness as any other person. It's an impossibility.

So no, I don't believe that there are shills paid to trap you in a state of consciousness, that's called paranoia. And when you begin to believe in your paranoia, it becomes a delusion. That's what you are, delusional.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: koods]
    #19168539 - 11/21/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Us rational folk could believe all these conspiracy and spiritualism fanatics are paid shrills, considering how vehemently they stick to their positions... But, we're rational.



It should be pretty obvious by now that quite a lot of conspiracy theories have now become conspiracy fact.

Take the NSA leaks for example.

Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.

Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.

Hassan-i Sabbah, founder and leader of the order of the assassins controlled a vast area of the middle east with a rather small population of subordinates and was able to do so using psychological warfare, he was a master at it.

Part of this psychological warfare was spreading disinformation to confuse the truth of whatever it is they wanted to lie about and do it in such a way that the disinformation becomes the truth. They would destabilize cities by spreading this type of disinformation and than go in, offer guidance and support, and take over the city. This was like a thousand years ago.

Its entirely possible that the same thing could be happening by a shadow government or something that wants to keep, or rather, needs to keep humanity at a certain level of consciousness to keep the whole system intact.


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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:



word.

glad I made your day better with some humor.

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obviously no one here believes in the presence of online shills to spread disinformation and contain the masses within a specific state of consciousness.

:shrug:




There is no specific state of consciousness. Everyone experiences a constant stream of consciousness. It is never the same for any individual person. It is completely different from moment to moment. On top of that, people's brains are all different. Nobody has ever had the exact same state of consciousness as any other person. It's an impossibility.

So no, I don't believe that there are shills paid to trap you in a state of consciousness, that's called paranoia. And when you begin to believe in your paranoia, it becomes a delusion. That's what you are, delusional.



There are specific states of consciousness, we experience altered states of consciousness when we consume drugs. :rollseyes:

I suppose I could be delusional and paranoid but than again what is there really to be paranoid and delusional about?

It wouldn't matter much either way to me, I am simply sharing an observation I have made in the past few months since arriving here of the posting style/rhetoric and topics of OC and Icey (possibly a few others) come off as a bit unusual, like somethings not quite honest about them.

Its just an intuitive feeling I have more than anything, I cant even really explain it. Its not paranoia, I know what thats like. Its not a delusion..just my gut feeling.

Just pay attention to those forums and the posts of those two here in the future.


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Its just an intuitive feeling I have more than anything, I cant even really explain it. Its not paranoia, I know what thats like. Its not a delusion..just my gut feeling.

Just pay attention to those forums and the posts of those two here in the future.




So you have this gut feeling that members of a psychedelic drug message board are being payed to pooh-pooh your ignorant attempts at discussing philosophy because they are trying to keep people from entering certain states of consciousness by telling them that those states of consciousness don't exist on a sub forum in which they can reach maybe twenty people? They're going to brainwash twenty people and you are just the uninformed voice of reason trying to use your gut feelings to save the insignificant number of people from what exactly?


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Us rational folk could believe all these conspiracy and spiritualism fanatics are paid shrills, considering how vehemently they stick to their positions... But, we're rational.



It should be pretty obvious by now that quite a lot of conspiracy theories have now become conspiracy fact.

Take the NSA leaks for example.

Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.

Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.

Hassan-i Sabbah, founder and leader of the order of the assassins controlled a vast area of the middle east with a rather small population of subordinates and was able to do so using psychological warfare, he was a master at it.

Part of this psychological warfare was spreading disinformation to confuse the truth of whatever it is they wanted to lie about and do it in such a way that the disinformation becomes the truth. They would destabilize cities by spreading this type of disinformation and than go in, offer guidance and support, and take over the city. This was like a thousand years ago.

Its entirely possible that the same thing could be happening by a shadow government or something that wants to keep, or rather, needs to keep humanity at a certain level of consciousness to keep the whole system intact.





Well, I'll be dipped in shit... I didn't know those facts... Ill be right over.

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    #19168598 - 11/21/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Take the NSA leaks for example.



I don't see any conspiracy there. The NSA is a government intelligence agency and like all of its international counterparts, its mission is to gather as much intelligence about anything, really. The fact that they turn out to be relatively good at it doesn't make it 'conspiracy fact.' If you view this as a conspiracy, then you're just really naive.

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Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.



So if someone trolls and ridicules someone else's beliefs, that makes him a shill and the henchman of a shadow government conspiracy? Jumping to conclusions much?

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Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.



So certain debating techniques which are used all over the planet and throughout all walks of life are the tell-tale sign of a shill?

Man, you really need to stay away from drugs for a while.


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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:



word.

glad I made your day better with some humor.

:cheers:

obviously no one here believes in the presence of online shills to spread disinformation and contain the masses within a specific state of consciousness.

:shrug:




There is no specific state of consciousness. Everyone experiences a constant stream of consciousness. It is never the same for any individual person. It is completely different from moment to moment. On top of that, people's brains are all different. Nobody has ever had the exact same state of consciousness as any other person. It's an impossibility.

So no, I don't believe that there are shills paid to trap you in a state of consciousness, that's called paranoia. And when you begin to believe in your paranoia, it becomes a delusion. That's what you are, delusional.



There are specific states of consciousness, we experience altered states of consciousness when we consume drugs. :rollseyes:

I suppose I could be delusional and paranoid but than again what is there really to be paranoid and delusional about?

It wouldn't matter much either way to me, I am simply sharing an observation I have made in the past few months since arriving here of the posting style/rhetoric and topics of OC and Icey (possibly a few others) come off as a bit unusual, like somethings not quite honest about them.

Its just an intuitive feeling I have more than anything, I cant even really explain it. Its not paranoia, I know what thats like. Its not a delusion..just my gut feeling.

Just pay attention to those forums and the posts of those two here in the future.



So, wait there are people on an online psychedelic mushroom discussion site's religious and spiritual forums that come off as a bit unusual? :woah:


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    #19168642 - 11/21/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Take the NSA leaks for example.



I don't see any conspiracy there. The NSA is a government intelligence agency and like all of its international counterparts, its mission is to gather as much intelligence about anything, really. The fact that they turn out to be relatively good at it doesn't make it 'conspiracy fact.' If you view this as a conspiracy, then you're just really naive.

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Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.



So if someone trolls and ridicules someone else's beliefs, that makes him a shill and the henchman of a shadow government conspiracy? Jumping to conclusions much?

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Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.



So certain debating techniques which are used all over the planet and throughout all walks of life are the tell-tale sign of a shill?

Man, you really need to stay away from drugs for a while.



well thanks for the concern, i'll be sure to do that.

I think the tell-tale sign of a shill is the amount of work they put into maintaining the disinformation paradigm and contain any and all novel ideas which may pop up.

A few choice words can have dramatic effects on the way people view themselves and the world, and if somebodies words contain this potential than they must be contained to continue an established paradigm.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168645 - 11/21/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Some people will put in a lot of effort out of sheer intrinsic motivation and the belief that they're doing the right thing. That is true for the people you put down as shills as well as the people on the other side of the spectrum.

Why do you put in the effort to break the paradigm that you perceive? Is anyone paying you to do so? Are you controlled by the alien overlords who intend to install a spiritual government to reign human beings? No? Well, perhaps the same might be true for your supposed shills.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: koraks]
    #19168805 - 11/21/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

because a single shift in perception can have dramatic effects on the freedom expressed in an individual. I seek to increase the level of free will that a person can achieve so that they may be able to help others. I do this by constantly challenging established beliefs and by challenging my own perception on the daily.

I feel I have important information for atleast somebody and if I can assist even one person towards the liberation of free willed thought than its all worth it.


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    #19168823 - 11/21/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168845 - 11/21/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Has it occurred you that the people you believe may be shills are doing exactly the same thing? That they are, let's paraphrase their posts, trying to shift the perspectives of people who come across as uninformed or overly suspicious of things they don't seem to understand too well?


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    #19168864 - 11/21/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




icelander is fine in my book.


orgone conclusion however....:gooby:




This. I also advocate Enlil as a potential pro-nuclear, pro-fossil fuels, anti-renewable energy anti-environmentalism shill.

However the chances that Orgoneconclusion and Enlil are paid by anyone is slim. Its just their own personal agenda, same as we all have. Orgoneconclusions only real agenda is to be a rude dick to anyone who dares to post on the PSP forum where he squats day after day like a brood hen.

Icelander is not the same as enlil and orgoneconclusion, he just occasionally attempts to suck up to them or play along with them, but he just as often makes sincere and authentic posts.


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    #19168866 - 11/21/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19168879 - 11/21/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.





Could it be that maybe, somewhere, there are people who don't agree with you? 


Naaaw, just people paid to say they do, I'm sure.






Only a paid shill would say that :wink:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #19168905 - 11/21/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is the perfect blend of butthurt and conspiracy that makes the shroomery what it is.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168957 - 11/21/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a paid disinformation shill who is here to discredit ideas of separateness, hatred, dislike, and meanness. I find plenty of work here.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Beanhead]
    #19168991 - 11/21/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169017 - 11/21/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't help it, I am what I eat.

:wink: 

lol ill continue doing my thing, just wanted to make it known that I know.

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19169021 - 11/21/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have been forced to sometimes wonder if anti drug propaganda people come on here. The occasional posts you read in TPE and stuff seeming like they are trying to scare people off. I doubt it's any organized effort, but I don't think it's out of the question that someone with an agenda could stumble across this site and do some trollin and disinformation.


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    #19169078 - 11/21/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah but the potential for understanding reality better and mastering reality would be found in PSP and SnM, most likely any who, which is why OC nd icey are constantly ready to to spread disinformation.

icey was to obvious at first and started posting with a less obvious method of social engineering that makes him seem a bit more genuine but he still maliciously discredits anything which doesn't align well with the philosophy of materialism and anything which would suggest something nice about humanity.

tyto or john banned me from the shroomery for ten days for making a statement about the inherent goodness and love present in humanity. 

also any post which could provide inspiration or upliftment gets shot down with malicious intent / banishment as well.

go to PSP and see for yourselves..

specifically my thread about the dogma behind the current theory of evolution. I am one of the only ones responding with logic..and you will see how OC and Icey attempt to derail threads that could be a threat to the established paradigm.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19169094 - 11/21/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry guys I try not to be a jerk usually and I was just being thoughtless. Orgone is actually a cool guy. Its fun to argue and he keeps the forum alive by being an active poster. He generates a lot of debate and thats the whole point.

I apologize to Orgoneconclusion and the thread for being mean and breaking forum rules. I forgot the rules and my manners.  Thanks to the mod for reversing the ban. From now on I will be on my best behavior.

:sorry:

You may not call people assholes in the pub.  Please post with some level of respect in the pub.

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    #19169193 - 11/21/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now that's not very nice..


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169235 - 11/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the real shills are the people who come into a thread(usually political) and post a comment of their agenda, they obviously find these threads with their quantum super computers


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169237 - 11/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Guess Orgone Conclusion doesn't venture to the pub, because I've never heard of the bloke.


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    #19169345 - 11/21/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Apologies to Orgone and the thread for my inappropriate and rude post. Won't happen again.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19169518 - 11/21/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

both icey and OC are in the top five most ignored users I believe. :lol:
nd moonshoe you did get a lil out of hand there tis all gravy tho Congrats o. the quick return from banishment.

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    #19169975 - 11/21/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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:nodofunderstanding:


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    #19173483 - 11/22/13 02:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19173724 - 11/22/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i didn't read this thread but there was an ad on craigslist in my city for one of those internet shill jobs.

Kind of wish i had at least applied, i've always thought it would a cool job.  like "yeah i'm a scumbag internet shill trying to mind control retards on the internet".


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19176417 - 11/22/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is retarded. Materialism is it's own reward, nobody needs to be paid to promote it.





















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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




IMO Icey is pretty insightful. A lot of people seem to hate him and I don't understand why. The fact that people ignore him over his "death anxiety" talk really just kinda proves his point-- if you didn't have death anxiety, you wouldn't be so troubled by what he says about it. OC, on the other hand, seems to me like somebody who is very bored. If you ask me, neither of them are shills.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19176593 - 11/22/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck with those rewards of materialism. When will you have enough?


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    #19176642 - 11/22/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not until anne's Gram seems poor in comparison.


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    #19176997 - 11/22/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This thread is retarded. Materialism is it's own reward, nobody needs to be paid to promote it.


























hahahahahhahahah what pointless shit.


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    #19177014 - 11/22/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




IMO Icey is pretty insightful. A lot of people seem to hate him and I don't understand why. The fact that people ignore him over his "death anxiety" talk really just kinda proves his point-- if you didn't have death anxiety, you wouldn't be so troubled by what he says about it. OC, on the other hand, seems to me like somebody who is very bored. If you ask me, neither of them are shills.




I have always liked icelander alot. He has gotten a bit curmudgeonly in his older age but hes always been a five shroom shroomerite.


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    #19177049 - 11/22/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps this would be more your style:











Materialism, a solution for everybody.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #19177645 - 11/23/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19177648 - 11/23/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

all he needs is those beads, that bongo and a book of Indian lore and he's set.

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I have always liked icelander alot. He has gotten a bit curmudgeonly in his older age but hes always been a five shroom shroomerite.



PS: Icelander has always been the Plato of PSP, and Orgone is just Socrates. they're awesome, and their dialogue is great; you just can't go into an argument with them and expect to win without a fight, that's all.

PSS: a gun and a chick and some cigars = materialism? :facepalm:


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    #19177656 - 11/23/13 03:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

hahah nah


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    #19177679 - 11/23/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Good luck with those rewards of materialism. When will you have enough?




Never and IDGAF...


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19177761 - 11/23/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




Nice,  I have a feeling you have sour grapes because we continually bring up reasons why your posts and threads make poor sense and rarely if ever even belong in the Philosophy forum. (in the sense that you continually mistake your personal opinions for concrete evidence)  Personally I have nothing against you other than your unwillingness to be realistic and mature in posting and responding as this thread attests to.

If anyone has followed me over the years they know I come out all over the  place on all sides of issues and am both liberal and conservative on various issues and continually let it be know that I am not sure where the actual truth lies.  Maybe you should find another place to post if criticism of your ideas is so frustrating that you have to slander other posters.  :shrug:

No hard feelings though, in almost 9 years here I've gotten used to such nonsense. :satansmoking:


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    #19178036 - 11/23/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are you upset that their views are different than yours?



lol im not upset i always stand by my views and enjoy the banter as I know what I'm talking about for the most part.

I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.

I've several times pointed this out and always win, if anything they are the ones overly upset with views that are different than materialism.





Amazing post!  Outside of the silly amount of arrogance and hubris there is no evidence that I ever said or believe that materialistic philosophy is the sole basis for truth. In fact I'm sure I've said otherwise more than once over all these years. 

If you're going to lie try to be good at it. :wink:


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    #19178613 - 11/23/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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PSS: a gun and a chick and some cigars = materialism? :facepalm:




:lolsy: I was waiting for someone to catch that I put a woman in there.

Not materialism themselves, but the rewards of materialism. Those are not just any cigars, they're Cubans. That's not just a gun, it's a Kimber custom. Brought to you by materialism (and black market trade).


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