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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168598 - 11/21/13 03:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Take the NSA leaks for example.



I don't see any conspiracy there. The NSA is a government intelligence agency and like all of its international counterparts, its mission is to gather as much intelligence about anything, really. The fact that they turn out to be relatively good at it doesn't make it 'conspiracy fact.' If you view this as a conspiracy, then you're just really naive.

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Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.



So if someone trolls and ridicules someone else's beliefs, that makes him a shill and the henchman of a shadow government conspiracy? Jumping to conclusions much?

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Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.



So certain debating techniques which are used all over the planet and throughout all walks of life are the tell-tale sign of a shill?

Man, you really need to stay away from drugs for a while.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168620 - 11/21/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm just making an observation..together they account for quite a lot of the posting that goes on there and they are pretty smart, too smart to be so ridiculously close-minded and biased towards any one post against materialistic philosophy, even going so far as attempts to claim that materialistic philosophy as the sole basis of truth.



Haha, you're too close-minded to acknowledge that smart people could view things differently from you :lol:

It was kind of funny to see you maneuver yourself into that corner within 2 posts :wink:



word.

glad I made your day better with some humor.

:cheers:

obviously no one here believes in the presence of online shills to spread disinformation and contain the masses within a specific state of consciousness.

:shrug:




There is no specific state of consciousness. Everyone experiences a constant stream of consciousness. It is never the same for any individual person. It is completely different from moment to moment. On top of that, people's brains are all different. Nobody has ever had the exact same state of consciousness as any other person. It's an impossibility.

So no, I don't believe that there are shills paid to trap you in a state of consciousness, that's called paranoia. And when you begin to believe in your paranoia, it becomes a delusion. That's what you are, delusional.



There are specific states of consciousness, we experience altered states of consciousness when we consume drugs. :rollseyes:

I suppose I could be delusional and paranoid but than again what is there really to be paranoid and delusional about?

It wouldn't matter much either way to me, I am simply sharing an observation I have made in the past few months since arriving here of the posting style/rhetoric and topics of OC and Icey (possibly a few others) come off as a bit unusual, like somethings not quite honest about them.

Its just an intuitive feeling I have more than anything, I cant even really explain it. Its not paranoia, I know what thats like. Its not a delusion..just my gut feeling.

Just pay attention to those forums and the posts of those two here in the future.



So, wait there are people on an online psychedelic mushroom discussion site's religious and spiritual forums that come off as a bit unusual? :woah:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: koraks]
    #19168642 - 11/21/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hTx said:
Take the NSA leaks for example.



I don't see any conspiracy there. The NSA is a government intelligence agency and like all of its international counterparts, its mission is to gather as much intelligence about anything, really. The fact that they turn out to be relatively good at it doesn't make it 'conspiracy fact.' If you view this as a conspiracy, then you're just really naive.

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Also you fail to address that I'm not even really talking about spiritualism, they mostly just troll the spiritualism forum with as much as they can get away with, and in the philosophy forum they will consistently (more OC on this one) post ridiculous anti-spiritual threads which seem more like straight up religious intolerance/hate than a debatable philosophical topic.



So if someone trolls and ridicules someone else's beliefs, that makes him a shill and the henchman of a shadow government conspiracy? Jumping to conclusions much?

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Its when you start posting anything that challenges materialism do they bring out the subtle insults and neurolinguistic programming whilst never actually making a solid argument.



So certain debating techniques which are used all over the planet and throughout all walks of life are the tell-tale sign of a shill?

Man, you really need to stay away from drugs for a while.



well thanks for the concern, i'll be sure to do that.

I think the tell-tale sign of a shill is the amount of work they put into maintaining the disinformation paradigm and contain any and all novel ideas which may pop up.

A few choice words can have dramatic effects on the way people view themselves and the world, and if somebodies words contain this potential than they must be contained to continue an established paradigm.


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Invisiblekoraks
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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168645 - 11/21/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Some people will put in a lot of effort out of sheer intrinsic motivation and the belief that they're doing the right thing. That is true for the people you put down as shills as well as the people on the other side of the spectrum.

Why do you put in the effort to break the paradigm that you perceive? Is anyone paying you to do so? Are you controlled by the alien overlords who intend to install a spiritual government to reign human beings? No? Well, perhaps the same might be true for your supposed shills.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: koraks]
    #19168805 - 11/21/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

because a single shift in perception can have dramatic effects on the freedom expressed in an individual. I seek to increase the level of free will that a person can achieve so that they may be able to help others. I do this by constantly challenging established beliefs and by challenging my own perception on the daily.

I feel I have important information for atleast somebody and if I can assist even one person towards the liberation of free willed thought than its all worth it.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168823 - 11/21/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You speak my language.


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Invisiblekoraks
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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168845 - 11/21/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Has it occurred you that the people you believe may be shills are doing exactly the same thing? That they are, let's paraphrase their posts, trying to shift the perspectives of people who come across as uninformed or overly suspicious of things they don't seem to understand too well?


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: LittleDipster]
    #19168864 - 11/21/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.




icelander is fine in my book.


orgone conclusion however....:gooby:




This. I also advocate Enlil as a potential pro-nuclear, pro-fossil fuels, anti-renewable energy anti-environmentalism shill.

However the chances that Orgoneconclusion and Enlil are paid by anyone is slim. Its just their own personal agenda, same as we all have. Orgoneconclusions only real agenda is to be a rude dick to anyone who dares to post on the PSP forum where he squats day after day like a brood hen.

Icelander is not the same as enlil and orgoneconclusion, he just occasionally attempts to suck up to them or play along with them, but he just as often makes sincere and authentic posts.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19168866 - 11/21/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP stop being a pussy


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: johnm214]
    #19168879 - 11/21/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
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hTx said:
How many do you think are here and who do you think they are?

I have a feeling that icelander and orgoneconclusion are paid shills operating within the PSP forum/spirituality & mysticism to maliciously discredit any would-be spiritual experience, or any topic which would suggest that humans could be more than DNA robots.





Could it be that maybe, somewhere, there are people who don't agree with you? 


Naaaw, just people paid to say they do, I'm sure.






Only a paid shill would say that :wink:


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #19168905 - 11/21/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is the perfect blend of butthurt and conspiracy that makes the shroomery what it is.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19168957 - 11/21/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a paid disinformation shill who is here to discredit ideas of separateness, hatred, dislike, and meanness. I find plenty of work here.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Beanhead]
    #19168991 - 11/21/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169017 - 11/21/13 08:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can't help it, I am what I eat.

:wink: 

lol ill continue doing my thing, just wanted to make it known that I know.

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19169021 - 11/21/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have been forced to sometimes wonder if anti drug propaganda people come on here. The occasional posts you read in TPE and stuff seeming like they are trying to scare people off. I doubt it's any organized effort, but I don't think it's out of the question that someone with an agenda could stumble across this site and do some trollin and disinformation.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19169078 - 11/21/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeah but the potential for understanding reality better and mastering reality would be found in PSP and SnM, most likely any who, which is why OC nd icey are constantly ready to to spread disinformation.

icey was to obvious at first and started posting with a less obvious method of social engineering that makes him seem a bit more genuine but he still maliciously discredits anything which doesn't align well with the philosophy of materialism and anything which would suggest something nice about humanity.

tyto or john banned me from the shroomery for ten days for making a statement about the inherent goodness and love present in humanity. 

also any post which could provide inspiration or upliftment gets shot down with malicious intent / banishment as well.

go to PSP and see for yourselves..

specifically my thread about the dogma behind the current theory of evolution. I am one of the only ones responding with logic..and you will see how OC and Icey attempt to derail threads that could be a threat to the established paradigm.


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: hTx]
    #19169094 - 11/21/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry guys I try not to be a jerk usually and I was just being thoughtless. Orgone is actually a cool guy. Its fun to argue and he keeps the forum alive by being an active poster. He generates a lot of debate and thats the whole point.

I apologize to Orgoneconclusion and the thread for being mean and breaking forum rules. I forgot the rules and my manners.  Thanks to the mod for reversing the ban. From now on I will be on my best behavior.

:sorry:

You may not call people assholes in the pub.  Please post with some level of respect in the pub.

Thanks

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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #19169193 - 11/21/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Now that's not very nice..


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169235 - 11/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the real shills are the people who come into a thread(usually political) and post a comment of their agenda, they obviously find these threads with their quantum super computers


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Re: Shroomery Agenda Shills [Re: Constantine]
    #19169237 - 11/21/13 10:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Guess Orgone Conclusion doesn't venture to the pub, because I've never heard of the bloke.


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