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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Moorning Due]
    #19167535 - 11/20/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just genetics amigo! Sometimes you bust and sometimes you flush, but never be afraid to try again. :thumbup:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: nn-IlliniSpiralDMT]
    #19167554 - 11/20/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I thought it was only verboten to plug non-Shroomery vendors.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19167588 - 11/20/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We don't discuss sponsors in cultivation, these spores are for microscopy use only! Don't want them to get in trouble now do we :wink: As for non sponsors your free to mention them just don't try to post links to them or boost their products. Feel free to bash crappy vendors like spores101 or mushbox by name as they suck donkey balls and no one should purchase their crap unless they like contams and oysters labeled as cubes.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19167595 - 11/20/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Violet said:
2.5 is more than most who eat mine will usually take. Much more than that and they start to feel like it's too much.

OP's weak flush is likely related to genetics, but I bet it's not genes alone.  MS is wildcard but even MS is unlikely to be bunk given certain facets of procedure.

For instance, my question for you MustardTiger:
Did you 'consolidate' your cakes ample time after colonized?
7 days is considered a suggestive minimum for PF cake consolidation, and in general for freshly-colonized grain food.
Consolidation helps assure proper strength. Rushed fruits are more likely to be pale in potency.




I've experienced higher potency with increased colonization/consolidation times, too--and this was on grain. It was actually not really intentional, but I ended up leaving a few jars of grain that I planned on spawning to bulk fully colonized for 3 weeks. PrimalSoup was doing a project on this, which I didn't know about until after the jars were spawned. I thought, "Huh…we'll just have to see how this turns out…" Mr. Buffalo (unaware of all of this and really not giving two shits about how this is all done) commented that this harvest was much stronger than previous harvests. Conventional wisdom is that consolidation is only done for cakes to make them more cakey, and you should spawn to bulk at 100% for grain. So maybe there's something to this "consolidation to add potency" business. What have you got to lose by waiting a few weeks?

I'm curious how this has worked out for others.



Actually it's almost quite a common knowledge, around here at least, that consolidation can help ensure potency potential is realized.
So there's definitely something to the consolidation-for-potency business, just like there's something to isolate-for-potency biz!
With combining the many factors of potency including isolation, consolidation, quality grain growing, no destroyed colonies, less substrate mycelium, and more, potency can easily go from hither-tither predictable unpredictability to best-of-the-best.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Violet]
    #19167619 - 11/20/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol, SpitballJedi just got finished telling me that the idea of longer consolidation times affecting potency was bullshit. :lol:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Violet]
    #19167624 - 11/20/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

pasty, spores101 is the worst EVER. ever. ever. i dont know how many more times i could write this.

ever. ever. ever? ever...


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: poopy mcpooperson]
    #19167633 - 11/20/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well then he has a lot of experienced growers and old hands speaking out against his case of it being BS.
Hard to prove, sure. Hard to believe if you do it yourself, you bet it isn't.
It's one of the major known reasons to 'consolidate' PF cakes, and a common explanation for 'bunk' fruits.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: poopy mcpooperson]
    #19167644 - 11/20/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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poopy mcpooperson said:
pasty, spores101 is the worst EVER. ever. ever. i dont know how many more times i could write this.

ever. ever. ever? ever...




I think we should have a spores101 sucks balls thread to go with the growkits suck thread :lol:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19167711 - 11/20/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

pasty, hell yeah. have you ever read the thread on another website from the ex-co-owner of spores 101? ill PM it to you.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19167739 - 11/20/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

first time I tripped out my own harvest I took 9.5gs with a maoi, 12 hours gone into hyperspace I though I died and was reborn a couple times among other things lol, scary and glorious, moral of the story dont be shy to take 3.5, or 4gs that seems to be the sweet spot  for most males


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: poopy mcpooperson]
    #19167752 - 11/20/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pasty, hell yeah. have you ever read the thread on another website from the ex-co-owner of spores 101? ill PM it to you.



me too!


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: poopy mcpooperson]
    #19167798 - 11/20/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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poopy mcpooperson said:
pasty, hell yeah. have you ever read the thread on another website from the ex-co-owner of spores 101? ill PM it to you.




Wow that is some shady shit  :saulgoodman:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19167926 - 11/20/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Shit if you don't mind can you PM me the link too?  I would love to see this bad lol


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19168110 - 11/20/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mio said:
powder in chocolates seems to intensify the experience a bit
vs eating them regular in large pieces

more surface area, 3g can make me one with everything often

but its been a few months sine Ive last tripped.. chocolates just seems to intensify a bit/and more pleasant trip too (no nausea)

to the ones saying full stomach tripping is good:
I once took 3.5g chocolates on full stomach
then I decided they didnt work so I ate 1.5g chocolates more after 2 hours where nothing had happened
my mind is new since ;-) heh
suddenly they all hit at once it seemed

fast/eat very lightly/healthy, turn off+hide phone, be alone  - my #1 rule in tripping

chocolates is even more love than an ordinary trip , try it.. worth the time, best way of eating them IMO




I'm totally making this. What's your recipe?




Mushroom chocolate recipe:
coffee grinder, $15 , grind shrooms to dust
dark chocolate plate, $2, enough for 10 trips at least or so
icecube tray (1g each cube , add 1g powder into each, chocolate rest, stir with fork)
melt chocolate , can be done in microwave or in cup on stove... (or double boiler/chocolate melter)
freeze them in alufoil, lasts a year easily

no taste, no nausea, better than capsules IMO
best way of eating them IMO (tried OJ,capsules,fresh,dried,red wine,with water,lemontek etc.)
tastes like ordinary chocolates, or even better than those

I normally never eat chocolates, but mushroom chocolates are good :P

the bodyload/nausea part is much reduced, so good trip almost everytime
much love in each trip
and stronger trips than eating them raw IMO, little bit stronger (my dose is 3-4g with chocolates vs 4-5g normal or so)

remember to fast/eat very little before eating them
or they dont work as good... or could work too strong after many hours suddenly

psytrance(youtube) and a walk in nature is essential for any trip too :-)


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: lessismore]
    #19168355 - 11/21/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

how many of you experience problems using MS?  first time growing and I was quite unaware of what is being talked about with the potency varying...  do less people use MS than I thought?


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: westthebest]
    #19168664 - 11/21/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

These Colorado spores were from 101...  Shame on me..:sad:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #19168773 - 11/21/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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These Colorado spores were from 101...  Shame on me..:sad:




Enjoy your B+ :cookiemonster:


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19168821 - 11/21/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
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MustardTiger66 said:
These Colorado spores were from 101...  Shame on me..:sad:




Enjoy your B+ :cookiemonster:



You mean oyster cubes........

     

 


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: PussyFart]
    #19168930 - 11/21/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Notahacker420 said:
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Pastywhyte said:
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MustardTiger66 said:
These Colorado spores were from 101...  Shame on me..:sad:




Enjoy your B+ :cookiemonster:



You mean oyster cubes........

     

 




Them too :lol: my first grow with a spores101 syringe got me some crazy oysters. I was just referencing the link from poopy not realizing that not everyone has read it :tongue: At least those cakes grew some cubes, I got oysters and nothing but with my attempt.


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19168940 - 11/21/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
Quote:

Notahacker420 said:
Quote:

Pastywhyte said:
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MustardTiger66 said:
These Colorado spores were from 101...  Shame on me..:sad:




Enjoy your B+ :cookiemonster:



You mean oyster cubes........

     

 




Them too :lol: my first grow with a spores101 syringe got me some crazy oysters. I was just referencing the link from poopy not realizing that not everyone has read it :tongue: At least those cakes grew some cubes, I got oysters and nothing but with my attempt.




but beautiful oysters  :heytherebadboy:


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