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Mushroom_J
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Edmunter] 1
#21451386 - 03/24/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fruiting chamber

invitro cakes 3/22/15
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21452347 - 03/24/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Violet said: [Okay, here they are. Worked much better this time.]
Anne has uploaded some photos of a very nice multi-spore AA violet tek grow to another forum. I thought the Shroomery might like to see them!
Enjoy!
   
  
Worth noting that this is from just 12 ounces of rice.
Finally, pics that make me want to try this. Thanks!!
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: MBabble]
#21452354 - 03/24/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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What, are my great ones not good enough for you? Hmph. Not as if I haven't shown results like that.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21452464 - 03/24/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushroom_J said:
Fruiting chamber

invitro cakes 3/22/15

great work!
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: cronicr]
#21452808 - 03/24/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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V-tek is cool for the fact that the method can help teach what good spawn looks, smells, and responds like. Often times when a bulk grow is done for the first time that a bad spawn jar or 2 gets put in during the spawn-run and then mold takes over and ruins the project. This method is a great stepping stone for one who would like to slowly move to bulk or to use as a primary method for propagating mushrooms. Thank you for sharing. I hope to see more from you in the future.
BD
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21452851 - 03/24/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Hi Violet, What do you think f these tubs. They are bigger than the ones u use. The lid fits tight but i dont think its air tight. Will contams get in there through the lid gap? They would have to travel up.

They might could work. I don't know about the lids. Once you start trying to use various equips other than screw-tops, you're just figuring out your own way to do waterable grain cakes. One thing is for sure, contams don't have trouble traveling up when the air is at all stirred up. Worth noting is that those look substantially larger. Might not be able to fit many in a cooker, depending. Also keep in mind, the larger the cake, the less effective watering can be. It's likely that increasingly larger cakes will get lower yield per grains.
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Mushroom_J said:
Fruiting chamber

invitro cakes 3/22/15

Very nice, J. Please keep posting!
I love the improvised "fruiting chambers". My favorite so far has been the 2-liter bottle. I've had great results with everything I've tried that stopped the surface from drying out.
Those are the PF-sub cakes we talked about? I look forward to seeing those. You should posts updates to those in the new invitro tek thread, which includes using PF cake sub for those without pressure cookers.
Thanks!
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Mushroom_J
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21453988 - 03/25/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Cron appreciate it!
We'll see how the bags turn out. They're re-usable.
Those are the BRF tek. From spore so it'll be a while till fruits. I'll start updating when growth starts. They're dated. Standard brf/verm/water mix fit into 4 containers. 1 cup of brf mix each.
I have some brf/coir/gypsum invitro coming too. Should be knotting in a week or so. I also have a couple other mixes and some muda style cakes that are brf/verm/coir/gypsum/coffee grounds.
Other stuff too.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21453995 - 03/25/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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What grain are the violet tek containers? And, multispore?
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21454157 - 03/25/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're rgs master to brown rice. Been 3.5-4 weeks. 5-7 days to 100% colonization. Bout a week to consolidate. Cased and set for a week. Put into fruiting last week and pinning this week. They're from agar but a few transfers in from multispore. I lost a few to bacteria. I overcooked the rice. It's a tough grain.
I really like how you can microwave the casing. I've been using this http://www.wormsway.com/en/bgsm906d
I sift it with my wire strainer to get the bark/perlite out.
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Re: Biological efficiency & Yield [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21454668 - 03/25/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love it ive been reading the hell out of your different posts and im trying to see if i cant do my own version of the vtek!
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21455654 - 03/25/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushroom_J said: They're rgs master to brown rice. Been 3.5-4 weeks. 5-7 days to 100% colonization. Bout a week to consolidate. Cased and set for a week. Put into fruiting last week and pinning this week. They're from agar but a few transfers in from multispore. I lost a few to bacteria. I overcooked the rice. It's a tough grain.
I really like how you can microwave the casing. I've been using this http://www.wormsway.com/en/bgsm906d I sift it with my wire strainer to get the bark/perlite out.
You lost a few to bacteria, you say - how long did you pressure cook the rice containers?
This isn't specifically to you, but your post made me think to say it:
When you're using a multi-spore culture and looking to take clones from a regular cake grow out, it's best not to use G2G from a single master container. That ends up spreading all of the cultures into all of the containers. You are likely to have a greater show from the variation of the cultures if you inoculate each container individually from various areas of multi-spore plates. It may take just a tad longer to inoculate six containers instead of one, but it saves you the initial grow-out time and the second inoculation.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21455842 - 03/25/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Violet said: What, are my great ones not good enough for you? Hmph. Not as if I haven't shown results like that.
No offense meant, I must have forgotten or missed them. Eek
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Mushroom_J
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21456454 - 03/25/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pc'd for 1 hr 15 min. Probably being to wet and taking them out of the pc before it cooled. Assuming air rushed in under the lip since the lids were loose. No biggie.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21456670 - 03/25/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe no biggie but worth checking out. I only sterilize brown rice for 50-60min 15psi, lids unscrewed. If air were to have gotten in it would be mold not bacteria you encountered. Maybe it was that they're too wet. But for that amount of time, I'd be concerned with how the bacteria got there. I would investigate 2 things. One, making sure the cooker is totally filled with steam, blowing constant steam out the petcock, before adding the rocker to raise pressure. Secondly, I'd make sure the master grains used to inoc were similarly thoroughly and properly sterilized. In my experience, you just cannot sterilize grass seed too long; it holds up regardless.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21460481 - 03/26/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21462217 - 03/26/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Aw I was hoping they'd get bigger before popping veils. That's multi-spore for ya though. Still looking good nonetheless. Keep with it! You're clearly doing the grow well so far.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21463947 - 03/27/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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They're from the same syringe drops as the ones in my sig and avatar. Those were 3-4 inches. wbs to coir. 1-2 inch subs. These are 2.5-3.5 in. So not to much of a difference. They drank 15-20 cc's of water each so far. I'm pleased.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21466062 - 03/27/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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1st flush harvest:
g1: g2: j1: j2:
165.2 wet g's/4 containers.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Mushroom_J]
#21466177 - 03/27/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not bad MJ, not bad at all! Thanks for sharing. Keep showing us how the next flushes come! Any pre-harvest pictures?
Some of your yield is still on the cakes - stumps. That's one of the main advantages to having an isolate culture shown to pluck right off of the casing layer. Many strains won't do it, but it's one of the main differences for me between a great strain and a vtek champion.
Even when fruits I grew had a hold on the casing layer, I preferred twist and pull harvesting anyway. I have my reasons, more than one. It's preferable having a strain that plucks right up with little to no casing layer damage, but I still find twist and pull preferable to cutting, regardless. I might still trim off the parts with more casing layer on them than I wanted though.
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Re: V-Tek & Easy Casing layers • Growing from watered whole grains in screw-lid plastics [Re: Violet]
#21468769 - 03/28/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pre-harvest:

Pinning off the wall.
Edited by Mushroom_J (03/28/15 12:47 AM)
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