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New moderator needed for Political Discussion.
    #19167342 - 11/20/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The current mods are heavily biased leaning in a certain political direction.  At least one, if not two moderators are needed to balance out the the forum politically.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #19167737 - 11/20/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree the moderation staff is biased towards a particular direction, but so what?  Moderators are people too, and if they couldn't express their personal opinions or had to appear neutral, they probably wouldn't visit the forums they're supposed to moderate.

My opinion is that unless the moderator's personal views are interfering with their official duties, there is not problem.  In the political forum, I personally think Phred (and Pris) are very fair.  I've disagreed with Phred on a number of things quite strongly even before I was a moderator and there was never any hint of retaliation.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19167786 - 11/20/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Phred made a post that claimed that three users were banned.  Only two of those users were banned, and the user who wasn't has a similar political outlook as Phred.

He is biased as fuck, and more people need to be brought in to fix the current bullshit, especially when someone who bans you refuses to message you back.  It is unprofessional, and overall a scumbag move.

Phred allows people to call people known pejoratives, but does nothing about it because the people lean in the same political direction as himself.


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Phred said:
Mush4Brains, psyconaught and baldtim have all received bans. They'll be back in a few days.




11/20/13 09:15 PM (1 hour, 43 minutes ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19167321#19167321



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no he flamed. He was making a point, not hiding behind anything.




11/20/13 10:35 PM (23 minutes, 59 seconds ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19167689#19167689


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19167859 - 11/20/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I asked psyconaught if he was banned and this is the response I received:

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Mush4Brains said:
Were you banned from PD for your comment?
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psyconaught said:
according to the moderator i am. But i haven't received a notice yet, and have yet to try and post. So i'm not sure yet.








And then I got a second reply

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Mush4Brains said:
Were you banned from PD for your comment?
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psyconaught said:
looks like i'm not banned as of now :lol:








What the fuck?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19167954 - 11/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well, have you tried asking Phred about this?  That would probably get you further than bringing it up here- none of us are going to be able to tell you what his reasoning is or whether he's going to ban anyone else any better than you can from his posts.

I guess I don't see the connection here between him not banning someone he said he was going to ban and him being biased in the performance of his official duties.  Either way, you asking someone if they were diagnosed as mentally deficient as a child was pretty clear flaming.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19168000 - 11/20/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I have tried asking Phred about this.  I have recieved no response, even though I PM'd immediately (within 5 minutes) of the notification he banned me.

But this isn't about me.  Sure, ban me, I broke the rules.  Both Prisoner #1 and Phred refuse to ban the most blatant rule violations because the people who commit the rule that violations are aligned with them politically.  Psyconaught is a perfect example.  Public announcement that the user was banned (along with the two actually banned members), and then apparently, the user isn't banned.  Bullshit.

The thing is, when other people obviously  break the rules and don't get punished, it invokes a response that isn't civil.  Then BOOM, ban, after a thread full of "Posting inflammatory comments, baiting or disrespecting other members." as Phred calls it, since you say something offensive to someone who aligns with his own political beliefs, you're banned. 

Why are there two far right-wing mods and not a single liberal moderating the forum, that's all I'm asking.


Edited by Mush4Brains (11/20/13 11:06 PM)


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #19168630 - 11/21/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As neither of the mods you named are "far right-wing", perhaps a look at your posting style is in order.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19168748 - 11/21/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree that there are moderators on this site who allow their personal biases to affect their moderation decisions, but I don't agree that phred is one of them.

Also, I don't see why he would announce that psychonaut was banned if he knew he wasn't.  That sounds more like a mistake than a bias.  If he were biased, he wouldn't mention psychonaut at all.

I'm glad to see that this thread has not been locked yet, but I suspect it will be shortly.  This site needs open discussion about this kind of thing, and although I disagree with you in this case, I certainly support your ability to initiate a public discussion about your grievances.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19168776 - 11/21/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil] * 4
    #19169188 - 11/21/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I also disagree with what OP has said but I will defend, to Enlil's death, his right to say it.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19170101 - 11/21/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So it turns out that Phred thought he banned psychonaught but failed.

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Dunno why the first attempt didn't work. Hopefully this one will.




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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19170114 - 11/21/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Probably.

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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19170802 - 11/21/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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So it turns out that Phred thought he banned psychonaught but failed.

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Phred said:
Dunno why the first attempt didn't work. Hopefully this one will.




Feel better now?





No, additional moderators are needed.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19170833 - 11/21/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So, what exactly is your beef?  You admit that you were banned properly.  You admit that another person was banned properly.  You now know that the failure to ban the third person was a mistake which has likely been rectified.

What exactly do you think is the problem?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 2
    #19170856 - 11/21/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Go the nuclear route like the rest of the left does, mush.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: B_BOY]
    #19171217 - 11/21/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Go the nuclear route like the rest of the left does, mush.




Put me back on ignore, it was better that way.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19171938 - 11/21/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's real fucking convenient that Phred claims that the ban didn't work once he gets called on it.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19171977 - 11/21/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It's real fucking convenient that Phred claims that the ban didn't work once he gets called on it.




Sometimes things are convieniant because they're true.  I agree with Enlil- why would phred announce he was going to ban someone if he was biased against it?  He could have just not mentioned the other guy's infraction or quietly edited the post if he wanted to protect his side of the argument.

I think you're imagining phred putting way too much thought into this.  I imagine he just saw the violations, tried to issue some warnings, and messed up on one.  Shit happens.  :blewmeanie:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19172072 - 11/21/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Keep making excuses for the mod who is biased as fuck :dealwithit:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 6
    #19172754 - 11/21/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I really don't understand your complaint.

You broke a rule. A clear cut rule. There are very few rules in that forum that will get you banned. The most common: flaming. Is it really that hard to avoid personal insults online? If it is, frequent forums that allow flaming rather than forums that don't. If you clearly flame, then complain about mod bias, you seem petty. Phred gave the bans he said he would. One came late. Feel better now that third ban went through?

With your ban record after such a short time here, Phred was actually quite lenient with his ban. He was authorized to ban you from all forums, even to permaban you.

Really, M4B, we have had some good times online. I would hate to see you go. It is the flaming thing you haven't yet seemed to grasp. It is not hard to avoid flaming. Just don't make things personal.

Once you type, "You are a..." instead of, "Republicans seem to..." you are at risk of crossing the line.

It doesn't matter if a Mod is biased. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if somebody else flames as well. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if only two out of three flamers were banned. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

If you flame and you don't get banned, you are lucky.

I think you underestimate the amount of time The Staff has spent trying to help you be a normal, functioning Shroomerite. You have seemed to be worth the investment, but if your behavior never changes, you won't be here much longer.

Very, very few people rack up as many ban points as quickly as you have. Even fewer have racked them up in as many forums and from as many different Mods as you have. Even fewer are allowed to stay for long.

I promise M4B, we have not had a Staff meeting plotting your demise. You are doing this all by yourself.

But again, I don't understand your problem. You deserved your ban but you are mad someone else got away with it? Even though the Mod stated he would be banned? In public? So you made a thread in here insisting the Mod in question is biased? Because he only bans people with different political opinions?

Figure out how to look at the Ban o Matic. You'll be surprised how often Phred bans people from his political side. He does have little patience for flaming, and even less for n00bs with as lengthy a record as you who keep flaming in his forum. Phred has great respect for people who do not share his beliefs, if they play by the rules. He runs a DEBATE forum. Trust me. He of all people knows you can not have a good debate with just one side making a case.

Please do not prove me wrong, M4B. I don't want this lengthy post to fall on deaf ears. I am not lying to you. Stop flaming, and stop crying for being banned when you break rules. This website is for adults only. Act like one.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19177088 - 11/23/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't care that I was banned.  I knew when making the post that I would receive a ban.  The fact that he claims that the original ban on his right-wing buddy "didn't go through the first time" is full on bullshit.  The problem is, you've got other users using known pejoratives with obvious impunity.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19177091 - 11/23/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have any evidence that it was "full on bullshit?"  Or is that just a hunch?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19177099 - 11/23/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It is technically just a hunch, but I firmly believe that if he wouldn't have been called on his bullshit it would not have been corrected.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19177134 - 11/23/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Frankly, I wouldn't trust such hunches yet.  You've been here a very short time and have not really had enough experience with Phred to make that kind of judgment.  You're, of course, entitled to your opinion, but I assure you that you're almost certainly wrong on this one.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19177158 - 11/23/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Believe what you want.  I'll believe what I want based on my experience.  None of this gets to the point that the moderators of political discussion are politically biased and let "veterans" (who happen to align with the moderator's political beliefs) of the forums say things that other people aren't allowed to say.  I'm not asking for Phred and Pris to be removed as moderators, but appoint one or two more moderators to keep the balance in order.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19177904 - 11/23/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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It doesn't matter if a Mod is biased. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if somebody else flames as well. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.

It doesn't matter if only two out of three flamers were banned. If you flame, you are asking for a ban.




Buncha flamers be flaming.

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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: johnm214]
    #19178060 - 11/23/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree the moderation staff is biased towards a particular direction, but so what?  Moderators are people too, and if they couldn't express their personal opinions or had to appear neutral, they probably wouldn't visit the forums they're supposed to moderate.

My opinion is that unless the moderator's personal views are interfering with their official duties, there is not problem.  In the political forum, I personally think Phred (and Pris) are very fair.  I've disagreed with Phred on a number of things quite strongly even before I was a moderator and there was never any hint of retaliation.




The problem may not be one of retaliation but rather letting those with the same ideology get away with rule violations. I don't think Pris does this however but I certainly suspect Phred of it.  :shrug: 

However it's really difficult to say ultimately.  I think it would be better that warnings and bans be announced in the forum as well as in PM like Diploid does.  Then things are very transparent.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander] * 2
    #19179032 - 11/23/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Phred has banned me numerous times.  The little lady's whine is bullshit, pure and simple.


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    #19179424 - 11/23/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't know. :shrug:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19179919 - 11/23/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you didn't know why did you open your piehole?  Having an opinion without information. Hmm.  That's how we got Obama.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19179949 - 11/23/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I moderated the forum with him, Phred was always an equal opportunity banner. He does have specific ideas as to what does and does not constitute a flame. More specific than many other mods. So, people who play by his rules can say some pretty fucking rude things as long as they phrase them properly. This does give an advantage to Veterans and more mature members of this website, and it is well known that people tend to sway towards conservatism as they grow older (not everybody but a noticeable amount). The Vets of the forum are really good with their words and can easily provoke a novice into saying, "No, fuck you, asshole!"

It is very much like the PSP forum but PSP states in the rules that it gives leeway to its Veteran members, and in the Politics forum you just have to learn how to work within and around Phred's interpretation of the rules. I have always found him easy to approach via PM if you are respectful.
As I have said, Politics is a debate forum and the Staff would prefer to have more than one side voicing their opinions in there. It may not seem like it but there are fewer conservatives in there than liberals, they make up for it by talking louder and taking firmer stances.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19180086 - 11/23/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you didn't know why did you open your piehole?  Having an opinion without information. Hmm.  That's how we got Obama.



Because this isn't about you and how many times you've been banned or not. :braindamage::imspecial:
. Jump to unwarranted conclusions much? :monkeydance:

What I do know is the times he hasn't seemed to respond to my flagging flamers.  I gave it up a long time ago for the most part.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19180106 - 11/23/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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When I moderated the forum with him, Phred was always an equal opportunity banner. He does have specific ideas as to what does and does not constitute a flame. More specific than many other mods. So, people who play by his rules can say some pretty fucking rude things as long as they phrase them properly. This does give an advantage to Veterans and more mature members of this website, and it is well known that people tend to sway towards conservatism as they grow older (not everybody but a noticeable amount). The Vets of the forum are really good with their words and can easily provoke a novice into saying, "No, fuck you, asshole!"

It is very much like the PSP forum but PSP states in the rules that it gives leeway to its Veteran members, and in the Politics forum you just have to learn how to work within and around Phred's interpretation of the rules. I have always found him easy to approach via PM if you are respectful.
As I have said, Politics is a debate forum and the Staff would prefer to have more than one side voicing their opinions in there. It may not seem like it but there are fewer conservatives in there than liberals, they make up for it by talking louder and taking firmer stances.





Well this isn't my beef.  I just responded based on some  experiences  several years ago. 

I never thought there was a lot of conservatives in the forum.  I'm fairly conservative myself actually.  Fiscally that is. 


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19180399 - 11/23/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Where's the beef?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19180521 - 11/23/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In the OP.:wink:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19182288 - 11/24/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If you didn't know why did you open your piehole?  Having an opinion without information. Hmm.  That's how we got Obama.



Because this isn't about you and how many times you've been banned or not. :braindamage::imspecial:
. Jump to unwarranted conclusions much? :monkeydance:




The fuck it wasn't about me.  Me and luvdemshrooms.
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What I do know is the times he hasn't seemed to respond to my flagging flamers.  I gave it up a long time ago for the most part.




I don't know how many times you have expressed your flaming opinion about what constitutes flaming to a mod but I suspect it has a different criteria in Politics than in Philosophy
You made an allegation that Phred favored those of similar ideology without information that would be essential to making that judgment.  I provided evidence that that is false.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19182805 - 11/24/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No sorry  :imspecial:, I was actually  thinking of the guy who just got banned for  a year ( Luddite)  :lol:  Although he's not the only one.  And personally I don't remember seeing luvdemshrooms using personalisms or flaming anyone ever outside of forum guidelines.  He's good at what he does. :wink:

And you provided no actual evidence imo. Your word? How would I know if you are telling the truth? (which is what I stated btw)
And for all I know for every ban or warning you got you deserved 20 for actual infractions.

After eight years here of playing this game I know when someone is actually breaking the forum rules and guildlines and I never flagged a post where it wouldn't have been blatantly obvious. 

I never accused Phred of anything. I believe I said I suspected that he might have a bias due to my experience. As I also said it's really impossible to know  for sure.

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    #19182827 - 11/24/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can confirm Phred has banned Zappa more times than any other Shroomery Mod.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19182844 - 11/24/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That still doesn't say much  without some kind of transparency by mods. Not to mention Zap does most of his posting in the Political forum. It would make sense that Phred would ban him the most by far. :tongue:  Diploid is the only one who makes a practice of that transparency that I'm aware of.

I've seen Zap, imo, get a free ride more than once.  But again I don't usually flag his posts and don't know if he's getting warnings.  As I said I don't really flag posts there anymore unless someone is flaming me personally.  It's a waste of time imo. But like I said it's almost impossible to know what's really going on. Kind of like in the Govt.:lol:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19182873 - 11/24/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I can not Moderate for other Mods.

I am a huge fan of transparency and I gladly discuss the reasons for my actions in private and public when asked. I am not allowed to speak for other Staffers. We have set rules, just like everybody else.

I can't speak for Phred. I am not allowed. I can only provide my observations of his public actions. I am not lying though.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19182908 - 11/24/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Did I say you were lying?  Did I ask you to speak for Phred? I really don't know what you're going on about.

I am not lying though.

You must realize how many times that gets said around here. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19184050 - 11/24/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Never counted the number of times. No lie.


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    #19184401 - 11/24/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:nicesmile:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19185443 - 11/25/13 04:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

cervantes is the new best mod.  What was that other guy that was really good  his name was like 5 or 6 letters he stepped down this year.  maybe started with a z.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: teamkiller]
    #19185609 - 11/25/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Zorro?  Zena the Warrior Princess?  Zippy the Pinhead?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19185653 - 11/25/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Figure out how to look at the Ban o Matic.




I'm fairly certain that regular users do not have the ability you speak of. The ban-o-matic only allows us schmos to see our own ban points... no?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19185667 - 11/25/13 07:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You're correct.  Up until a couple of months ago, we could use the mod monitor to see what mods are doing, but they made that a mod only function.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19185673 - 11/25/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was unaware of the "mod monitor".


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    #19185677 - 11/25/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The script was "modmon.php" or something like that.  You could enter a moderator's name and it would show all of the actions he/she has taken.


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    #19185678 - 11/25/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry I missed it. Sounds informative, which likely explains its demise.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19185702 - 11/25/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Too bad it went away.

However, I can see why the admins of this site might not wish to provide graphic evidence on just what incompetent tools some of the mods are.

Just like having an adminmon would likely point out what a tool at least one admin is.

Either one would likely cause great embarrassment to the remainder of the mods and admins, many of which seem to do a fine job. Can't have those bad apples attracting attention.


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    #19185703 - 11/25/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Over time, it appears that the administration of this site has less and less transparency.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19185727 - 11/25/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's how empires always seem to go during the decline phase. :lol:


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    #19185763 - 11/25/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah.  I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently.  Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation. 

I think much of the new tyranny here is from a lack of supervision and not necessarily reflective of the administration's policies or desires.  I suspect (or at least I want to believe) that the core administration still has the same values/goals that they always have, but they lack the time/concern to make sure that the underlings are acting in accordance with those values/goals.

I figure that the admins get a lot of pissing and moaning from a lot of people until it becomes impossible for them to have anything resembling an objective view of the site.  It's much easier for them to just delegate the authority and hope for the best.  Piss poor mods like tymoteusz3 run amok until enough people complain about them.  At the same time, for every user that is the victim of his bias, there is at least one user that is using that bias for his/her own purposes...so for every complaint, there is an opposing praise.  It's hard for the admins to sort it out without a lot of labor, so they let it slide for awhile and hope the problem sorts itself out.

In addition, I think Andy has really hurt the site's credibility with the rank and file users.  Before andy, I don't ever remember anyone accusing admins of reading people's pms or ninja editing negative posts about the admin. That kind of shit leaves the perception (accurate or not) that the admins, in general, think of this site as their personal playground, and the users as the toys with which to play.

I really love this site, and have for many years, but the last year or so has really been a bummer.  It's kinda like watching the slow, steady wasting away of an uncle with cancer.  I try to see it like it used to be, but it gets harder each day to believe that it's the same site at all.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #19186050 - 11/25/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I suspect (or at least I want to believe) that the core administration still has the same values/goals that they always have, but they lack the time/concern to make sure that the underlings are acting in accordance with those values/goals.


Maybe they do or maybe their truest goals are just being honestly reflected now.  While it's nice to think that humans believe in their stated goals it's usually the unstated and maybe unconscious ones that in the end take precedence.

Anyway things run their course and it's all to be expected.  I really like this place myself but actually I think it's better than it was a few years ago. Or maybe I'm not expecting much more than what is presented rather than stated goals anymore.  However I do think this place is often poorly moderated.  But I've never had anything but positive experiences with tymoteusz3 and have found him to be a decent moderator.  Just to present another side.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Enlil]
    #19186428 - 11/25/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah.  I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently.  Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation. 






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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19187750 - 11/25/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've been here a decade and Phred is why I've never posted in political discussion. I've been lurking without posting for years. Phred's gotta take it easy. You can blatantly see it.


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    #19187765 - 11/25/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Yeah.  I was, however, somewhat pleasantly surprised recently.  Tymoteuz3 issued me another one of his biased, retaliatory warnings, and Ythan overturned it without much hesitation. 






How Timmeh is still a mod is a mystery indeed.  I know why Andy is still an admin




Tymo just needs to become a better mod, give him time. He's an OK guy. Coddling users has gotta stop.*

Andy better be doing things that the website needs, I think Ythan said he was getting tired of a lot of the coding even tho he still does thangs.

The three of you all need to lighten up a bit. Get out on the job with some of your guys before big winter hits or something.

*If people report 10 ratings it should default them as an opt-out. (While everyone's reading this thread anyway).


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Adden]
    #19187774 - 11/25/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been here a decade and Phred is why I've never posted in political discussion. I've been lurking without posting for years. Phred's gotta take it easy. You can blatantly see it.





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    #19187784 - 11/25/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It.

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    #19187785 - 11/25/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Phred made a post that claimed that three users were banned.  Only two of those users were banned, and the user who wasn't has a similar political outlook as Phred.

He is biased as fuck, and more people need to be brought in to fix the current bullshit, especially when someone who bans you refuses to message you back.  It is unprofessional, and overall a scumbag move.

Phred allows people to call people known pejoratives, but does nothing about it because the people lean in the same political direction as himself.



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Mush4Brains, psyconaught and baldtim have all received bans. They'll be back in a few days.




11/20/13 09:15 PM (1 hour, 43 minutes ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19167321#19167321



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no he flamed. He was making a point, not hiding behind anything.




11/20/13 10:35 PM (23 minutes, 59 seconds ago)

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    #19187788 - 11/25/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Tymo just needs to become a better mod, give him time. He's an OK guy. Coddling users has gotta stop.




My problem with the guy is that he has certain people who for whom he looks for reasons to discipline and other people who he will let get away with murder.  I've never had a problem with him as a user, but as a mod he is horrible and incredibly biased.


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    #19187882 - 11/25/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It.

And you can see it blatantly, apparently.




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    #19187908 - 11/25/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Phred and I have gotten into plenty of heated debates.  We clearly do not share the same political philosophies.  I have yet to be warned, banned, or even wet willied by the guy.


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    #19187910 - 11/25/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19187996 - 11/25/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Fuck your political beliefs





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    #19188117 - 11/25/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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    #19188225 - 11/25/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are multiple people in this thread that agree with my general sentiment.  More moderators on the other end of the political spectrum as Pris#1 and Phred are needed.  The rules that are posted need to be enforced equally even if someone aligns with the mod's political beliefs. 


1)  NO FLAMING ...if you can't state your case or refute another poster's case without calling them "stupid" or an "idiot", etc. then don't bother posting here.  This forum is for intelligent debate, not to try to belittle another member posting in the forum who doesn't think like you.  THIS WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED.  If you have been warned already, you will receive a temporary ban, if you continue to flame you will be banned permanently. Choose your words wisely or suffer the consequences.

This should apply to everyone, including zappaisgod who calls people names 24/7.  It's fucking bullshit that specific members get away with something just because they have name recognition.  They bait and troll without repercussion. 


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19188459 - 11/25/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

While I'm not addressing any specific persons or pointing any fingers I find it hard to fathom the ruling that veterans (of which I am one) should be able to break rules that others can't.  That is beyond dumb and ugly imo.  The rules should apply to everyone equally.

However I don't make the rules of this game and imo it's nothing but a game and if the owners want to make dumb/ugly rules for play then then that's how I'll play the game as long as I want to play here. :shrug:  Actually it's not surprising. I've been seeing this shit at play my whole life in the work and social world.  Humans aren't capable, on the whole, of much more.  I know I've done it. My hands aren't clean.
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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19188621 - 11/25/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It's all a sad little powertrip for many of these moderators.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: barong]
    #19188691 - 11/25/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Great point!


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: barong]
    #19188696 - 11/25/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well the admin sets the tone.  If they wanted something else there would be something else. 

I know this from being a manager myself.  I set the tone and almost everyone got with the program. I got rid of those that didn't.  It was very simple and effective.  But maybe a wrinkle here is that these are not paid positions.  There is no incentive to do well other than quality personal ethics and those are hard to come by.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #19188737 - 11/25/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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  It's fucking bullshit that specific members get away with something just because they have name recognition.  They bait and troll without repercussion. 





keep fightin the good fight man.

i won the fight over the chat rooms.

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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: k00laid]
    #19188756 - 11/25/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

SO which moderator gave the FBI the IP address of DPR? His arrest was 100% a Shroomery moderator snitch. These people are shameful.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #19188765 - 11/25/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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This should apply to everyone, including zappaisgod who calls people names 24/7.  It's fucking bullshit that specific members get away with something just because they have name recognition.  They bait and troll without repercussion. 




I told ya, Ice, this thread was about me.  You aren't being a narcissist if it really is all about you.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19188936 - 11/25/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think he said "including" you.  That means other people are involved.  I know you want to be a very impotent person but I don't think this is all about you. :lol:

Even you yourself named other people you think this is about besides you.  But you are a major player on the flame train I guess. :haha:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: barong]
    #19188941 - 11/25/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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SO which moderator gave the FBI the IP address of DPR? His arrest was 100% a Shroomery moderator snitch. These people are shameful.





What's that all about?


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Icelander]
    #19189164 - 11/25/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Well the admin sets the tone.  If they wanted something else there would be something else. 

I know this from being a manager myself.  I set the tone and almost everyone got with the program. I got rid of those that didn't.  It was very simple and effective.  But maybe a wrinkle here is that these are not paid positions.  There is no incentive to do well other than quality personal ethics and those are hard to come by.




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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19189939 - 11/26/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

oh i remember koraks was the other mod who was really good.

Koolaid i was reading that thread qqing about the shroomery chat being gone.  I love that thread.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19190374 - 11/26/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what you have to complain about, if anything the mods are being way lenient on you. You flame constantly and not just in the poli forum, yet you are still here.


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    #19190398 - 11/26/13 04:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ouch:haha:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: k00laid]
    #19193026 - 11/26/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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keep fightin the good fight man.

i won the fight over the chat rooms.

i hope you do well in your fight.




You made StateOfMind404 melt into making irrational decisions after site mods kept saying to stop. You're a great troll yet terrible person. Since, he's delved into RC's and is suffering drug induced psychosis.

The chat melt thread is pretty good too IMO.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Adden]
    #19193907 - 11/26/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There are enough people here corroborating my sentiment that at least one new moderator should be named to Political Discussion.  My nomination is Cervantes


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 5
    #19193939 - 11/26/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It'd be more interesting to see how many are of the opinion that you bring your misery upon yourself.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19193989 - 11/26/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There are enough people here corroborating my sentiment that at least one new moderator should be named to Political Discussion.  My nomination is Cervantes




I just re-read the thread. I agree. You and the 3 - 4 people who agreed with you in this thread should indeed to able to make demands of the administration.

Perhaps the 4 - 5 of us that think your problems are your own doing should have a rumble with your gang. Or play tiddly-winks to the death.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Adden]
    #19194328 - 11/26/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

k00laid said:
keep fightin the good fight man.

i won the fight over the chat rooms.

i hope you do well in your fight.




You made StateOfMind404 melt into making irrational decisions after site mods kept saying to stop. You're a great troll yet terrible person. Since, he's delved into RC's and is suffering drug induced psychosis.

The chat melt thread is pretty good too IMO.





yeah it totally had NOTHING to do with gretchenmeister.

nothing at all.......


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains] * 2
    #19194405 - 11/26/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There are enough people here corroborating my sentiment that at least one new moderator should be named to Political Discussion.  My nomination is Cervantes




Thanks but no. It is a low traffic forum and does not need a third mod.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19194528 - 11/26/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

stop being humble cervantes.  Mod everyone.  I vote cervantes be promoted to her grace the supreme moderator czar.

also koolaid is one of the nicest and greatest people on the shroomery.  I encourage anyone who thinks otherwise to talk to him more.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: teamkiller]
    #19195023 - 11/27/13 03:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Supreme Moderator CzarESS!


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Rose]
    #19195077 - 11/27/13 04:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think the title Omnipotent Mod Of All People, Places And Things sounds better, but it would be too long for the space available.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19198149 - 11/27/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There are enough people here corroborating my sentiment that at least one new moderator should be named to Political Discussion.  My nomination is Cervantes



Some people should be careful what they wish for.:grin:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19199456 - 11/28/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

.:.


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    #19200057 - 11/28/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Huh?


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Sleep deprivation is a hell of a drug.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Adden] * 3
    #19212711 - 12/01/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have banned psyconaught from Political Discussion on two occasions, each time for three days.

Once for calling Therian a "racist homophobic piece of shit" and once for asking baldtim "were you dropped on your head as a child?"

I have no idea why the ban I gave him for flaming baldtim didn't take immediately, but that's not the first time I have banned someone only to not have it take. No biggie... as soon as I saw he had posted again I re-banned him. That time it worked.

If it is true that members can no longer track mod actions and see when a mod has banned someone, that's a shame, because I'm not about to go back to publicly announcing every ban I make. My time is more limited these days than it used to be and I don't intend to spend any of it proving to whiners that I am an equal opportunity banner. Here's an idea - don't flame and you won't have anything to worry about.

And yes, it is true that some mods have a much more stringent idea of what constitutes a flame than I do, but that's not my problem. If it means occasionally a guilty man goes free, isn't that better than an innocent one being wrongly punished? The Admins here have made it abundantly clear over the years that in borderline cases they tend to favor more freedom of speech rather than less, so I follow their lead.


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Phred]
    #19212999 - 12/01/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You do a good job as far as I can tell. :thumbup:


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Re: New moderator needed for Political Discussion. [Re: Phred] * 1
    #19238606 - 12/06/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have banned psyconaught from Political Discussion on two occasions, each time for three days.

Once for calling Therian a "racist homophobic piece of shit" and once for asking baldtim "were you dropped on your head as a child?"

I have no idea why the ban I gave him for flaming baldtim didn't take immediately, but that's not the first time I have banned someone only to not have it take. No biggie... as soon as I saw he had posted again I re-banned him. That time it worked.

If it is true that members can no longer track mod actions and see when a mod has banned someone, that's a shame, because I'm not about to go back to publicly announcing every ban I make. My time is more limited these days than it used to be and I don't intend to spend any of it proving to whiners that I am an equal opportunity banner. Here's an idea - don't flame and you won't have anything to worry about.

And yes, it is true that some mods have a much more stringent idea of what constitutes a flame than I do, but that's not my problem. If it means occasionally a guilty man goes free, isn't that better than an innocent one being wrongly punished? The Admins here have made it abundantly clear over the years that in borderline cases they tend to favor more freedom of speech rather than less, so I follow their lead.


Phred





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