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twistedty
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: lessismore]
#19165680 - 11/20/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mio said: 2g is nothing, doesnt even make me trip
2.5g-3.5g
but only take 3.5g in careful setting, turn off phone,lock doors, be undisturbed
3.5g which is 1/8th , is the default trip dose for most people
sometimes 2nd flush is stronger, I heard... not sure
always dose on empty stomach... else the shrooms dont work...
with MS syringes, genetics can be random sometimes... sometimes a batch doesnt work next flush might be insanely potent though :-)
wait and see.. but would do 2.5-3.5g next time personally, with sitter
(but I cant recommend doses to you, I am not your father;)
a sitter? im a grown ass man! my sitter is usually tripping as hard as i am and if i had a sitter he/she would leave in an hour due to my rantings and odd behavior
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: twistedty]
#19165691 - 11/20/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well if you don't wanna party then i'll be your sitter
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: twistedty]
#19165692 - 11/20/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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3.5 often can make people think theyre dying , thats why I recommended it
has happened to me, and I have done LSD 150 times in high doses but the mushrooms still owned me :-)
but it depends on consumption method too.. it was 3.5g chocolates... eating them raw the doses are a bit different sometimes
would still be careful though... turning phone off and hiding it is always a very good idea
set,setting,dose , then there is nothing to fear , but it also means knowing ones dose, the dose where the mind can still function to some degree start low
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: lessismore]
#19165952 - 11/20/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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5 grams and it's not even a party anymore. lol
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twistedty
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MUSH HEAD420 said: 5 grams and it's not even a party anymore. lol
hell ya it is!
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I've had 3.5g many times of varying potency and even the craziest one I would still walk around and buy lunch. Shit I bought a get rad album on more than an eighth one dude knew i was fuckedbut oh well
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (11/20/13 03:37 PM)
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19166019 - 11/20/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah 3.5 is my usuall dose for social scenes. If its just me 5 takes me where I want to go
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MustardTiger66 said: Harvested a little over 2 grams, dried, of Colorado cubes on brf cakes a few days ago, dried them using a dehydrator at 95F degrees. Hooked my buddy up with the finished product and he claims he felt absolutely no effect from them. What could cause this? Genetics?
i had the same problem with the first flush on my cakes, my friends and i each ate around 2.5 and had a very mild trip. but on the next flush we each ate around 3.5 and trip balls. from my experience the second flush is more potent. but when using a ms you can never really tell what your going to get, you could have two different shrooms on the same cake with completely different potency levels. best bet would be to use an isolate.
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: karp]
#19166093 - 11/20/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's pretty sad that no one is offering any constructive analysis and instead has resorted to making this into a flexing contest. Thanks for everyone who tried to shed some light on this.
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Rubestoad]
#19166100 - 11/20/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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To offset the crap shoot of dosing while taking into account varying genetics when using MS inoculation.
You can take your dried mushrooms and grind them into a fine powder, thus taking your great genetics and poor genetics and creating a balanced potency for a given grow.
IE. grind up twenty plus grams dry and store in a airtight container to ladle out in the dosages you deem appropriate, mix the powder with melted chocolate, or in a glass with orange juice or my personal favorite, Ginseng Tea with Lemon and Honey.
You will be able to judge exactly how potent two grams is or is not, and at least all two gram dosages will be nearly exactly identical.
Edited by Lazarus.Long (11/20/13 03:51 PM)
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: karp]
#19166169 - 11/20/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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2.5 is more than most who eat mine will usually take. Much more than that and they start to feel like it's too much.
OP's weak flush is likely related to genetics, but I bet it's not genes alone. MS is wildcard but even MS is unlikely to be bunk given certain facets of procedure.
For instance, my question for you MustardTiger: Did you 'consolidate' your cakes ample time after colonized? 7 days is considered a suggestive minimum for PF cake consolidation, and in general for freshly-colonized grain food. Consolidation helps assure proper strength. Rushed fruits are more likely to be pale in potency.
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MustardTiger66 said: It's pretty sad that no one is offering any constructive analysis and instead has resorted to making this into a flexing contest. Thanks for everyone who tried to shed some light on this.
2 grams aint shit :/
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Violet]
#19166190 - 11/20/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that you mention it, it is possible I didn't let them consolidate long enough; I'm sure it a factor in all of this. But even so, to experience absolutely no effects with over 2 grams?
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Rubestoad]
#19166269 - 11/20/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rubestoad said: Yeah 3.5 is my usuall dose for social scenes. If its just me 5 takes me where I want to go
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TheMustardTiger


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http://www.shroomery.org/9061/What-size-dose-should-I-take
Please review this and stop telling how awesome you are because you eat 5 grams.
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That's good info. I wasn't trying to be awesome I apologize for any offense you took.
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: cronicr]
#19166447 - 11/20/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: i prefer 3-5 grams so this issue never comes for me
I prefer cyanesence... 3-5g (dry) of them would send you flying.
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My last grow i ate 1/4oz dry & had a mild trip. The other guy that ate a.quarter blacked out & woke up in jail. Have some yourself & see if maybe it was just your friend.
On another note, im not an expert by far, but my opinion is the healthier your mushrooms are & the more time, energy, & care you invest in growing them the better they will be. You grow so you obviously already know this but your mushrooms will give you signs, you just have to know what they mean. Ex. Low or high humidity will cause the myc & mushrooms to act a certain way, as will low or high fae, too much c02, etc. If your fruiting chamber is too big or small for the amount of mushrooms your growing they could be affected as well.
Edited by TehMyceliumMonster (11/20/13 05:14 PM)
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cronicr



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Moorning Due said:
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cronicr said: i prefer 3-5 grams so this issue never comes for me
I prefer cyanesence... 3-5g (dry) of them would send you flying.
it did! i never knew the diff the first time with cyans and popped 5 g's, lovely fucking time!
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MustardTiger66 said: http://www.shroomery.org/9061/What-size-dose-should-I-take
Please review this and stop telling how awesome you are because you eat 5 grams.
i have no idea what kind of mushies these guys grow..
many of my friends tried 1-1.5, they were never disappointed..
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