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DJ_Nemesis
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First time grow Mazapatec
#19160815 - 11/19/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey there,
Im about to attempt my first PF Tek grow with Mazapatec shrooms. I know a PC is not required for this method but I borrowed one from my friend as I want to do a couple of cakes using Rye Flour instead and I know this requires one.
However as my PC is borrowed I did not know what PSI it operated at, after a bit of research I have found it is only a cheap one that runs at 7 PSI meaning I can only get temps upto 110C/230F, is this enough to sterilize the Rye Flour ?
As a novice am not sure whether to bother with Rye flour or just stick with BRF, but having read various threads on here over the last few days, some varieties seem to do better on RF. Also I wanted to start growing not only to have mushrooms but because I love science and experimentation and see the prospect for trying lots of different things over the next few years.
My idea is to do half BRF and half Rye Flour. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks. Hope this is in the right forum.
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19160832 - 11/19/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It should work ok, steam sterilizing doesnt get any hotter than that..
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19160852 - 11/19/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works. as for the PC i use a cheap one with no gauge and works fine.
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: bowserk]
#19160864 - 11/19/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bowserk said: Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works
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DJ_Nemesis
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: bowserk]
#19160922 - 11/19/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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bowserk said: Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works. as for the PC i use a cheap one with no gauge and works fine.
Like i said in my OP I want to experiment, plus I spent several days reading threads all over shroomery which suggest that Rye Flour is possibly better for colonization / fruiting, I wish to test this hypothesis and keep an open mind. Thanks for the info on the PC.
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19160982 - 11/19/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DJ_Nemesis said:
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bowserk said: Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works. as for the PC i use a cheap one with no gauge and works fine.
Like i said in my OP I want to experiment, plus I spent several days reading threads all over shroomery which suggest that Rye Flour is possibly better for colonization / fruiting, I wish to test this hypothesis and keep an open mind. Thanks for the info on the PC.
You should just stick with the original tek. Rye possibly harbors bacterial endospores that can live even at high temperatures. The BRF tek works great. You'll have a higher chance for success using brown rice flour. No reason to include more variables.But if you want to experiment, go ahead, you can still grow with rye.
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DJ_Nemesis
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Right thanks, I now need to know just one more thing before I start my grow, I have a 10ml spore syringe how much should I inoculate 400ml jars with please ? Thankyou kindly...
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19165870 - 11/20/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DJ_Nemesis said: Right thanks, I now need to know just one more thing before I start my grow, I have a 10ml spore syringe how much should I inoculate 400ml jars with please ? Thankyou kindly...
A few drops per hole per jar.
It only takes a little bit....this does not have to be exact by any means.
Just make sure to shake the syringe well between jars.
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19165881 - 11/20/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DJ_Nemesis said:
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bowserk said: Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works. as for the PC i use a cheap one with no gauge and works fine.
Like i said in my OP I want to experiment, plus I spent several days reading threads all over shroomery which suggest that Rye Flour is possibly better for colonization / fruiting, I wish to test this hypothesis and keep an open mind. Thanks for the info on the PC.
could you maybe link those threads? i can maybe see faster colonizing but even that would be marginal at best, brf has more nutes then rye
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: PussyFart]
#19166340 - 11/20/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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DJ_Nemesis said: Right thanks, I now need to know just one more thing before I start my grow, I have a 10ml spore syringe how much should I inoculate 400ml jars with please ? Thankyou kindly...
A few drops per hole per jar.
It only takes a little bit....this does not have to be exact by any means.
Just make sure to shake the syringe well between jars.
Thanks dude, noticed your a very prolific poster, cheers for the input. Have you got an opinion on Rye Flour vs BRF with PF tek possibly please ??
Edited by DJ_Nemesis (11/20/13 04:51 PM)
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: cronicr]
#19166349 - 11/20/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DJ_Nemesis said:
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bowserk said: Just stick with the brf, why would you want to change it the tek works. as for the PC i use a cheap one with no gauge and works fine.
Like i said in my OP I want to experiment, plus I spent several days reading threads all over shroomery which suggest that Rye Flour is possibly better for colonization / fruiting, I wish to test this hypothesis and keep an open mind. Thanks for the info on the PC.
could you maybe link those threads? i can maybe see faster colonizing but even that would be marginal at best, brf has more nutes then rye
Will have a search tomorrow again and post for you, had too many vodkas at moment...
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Re: First time grow Mazapatec [Re: DJ_Nemesis]
#19166427 - 11/20/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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 i've used rye,wheat,wbs amongst others and some(can't recall which)were stickier then others and i just went back to brf gl on your journey and may your hangover be forgiving
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