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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: HerbJunkette]
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: HerbJunkette]
#19199274 - 11/28/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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HerbJunkette said: I don't understand why everything on Earth has to be so...mystified. Can't it just be a plant?
If you want to look at it as just a plant, no one is stopping you. However, the psychoactive effects give it a greater significance to many people. It is a sacred plant, because it can lead to degrees of awakened consciousness.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: Deviate]
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Your plant looks like something that guy would have been proud to grow.
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I used to truly enjoy smoking marijuana. Never had any real downsides; I could get primo Cali medical bud for cheap, and it would marvelously enhance any sensory experience I indulged in whilst high: be it eating delicious food, having sex, or listening to music.
Now, however, I smoke more than a few puffs and I feel paranoid, anxious and overly self-conscious with a side of social anxiety to boot. I hear this is a pretty common happening too--something about years of use lowering the activation threshold of the amygdala when activated by THC. All I know is I miss being able to enjoy that sweet, sweet herb.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: deCypher]
#19203117 - 11/28/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get paranoid/anxious if I don't smoke it everyday, and it has to be a Sativa with a high CBD content. Everyday or none at all.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: Deviate]
#19203387 - 11/29/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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HerbJunkette said: I don't understand why everything on Earth has to be so...mystified. Can't it just be a plant?
If you want to look at it as just a plant, no one is stopping you. However, the psychoactive effects give it a greater significance to many people. It is a sacred plant, because it can lead to degrees of awakened consciousness.
An awakened consciousness would see things for what they are.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: deCypher]
#19203459 - 11/29/13 02:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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deCypher said: I used to truly enjoy smoking marijuana. Never had any real downsides; I could get primo Cali medical bud for cheap, and it would marvelously enhance any sensory experience I indulged in whilst high: be it eating delicious food, having sex, or listening to music.
Now, however, I smoke more than a few puffs and I feel paranoid, anxious and overly self-conscious with a side of social anxiety to boot. I hear this is a pretty common happening too--something about years of use lowering the activation threshold of the amygdala when activated by THC. All I know is I miss being able to enjoy that sweet, sweet herb. 
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: Draenei] 1
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Oh please. I stopped using cannabis around 1979 after 10 years of use. Stoners always want to justify being stoned. I don't want my pilot, surgeon, physicians, dentist, broker, accountant, or any other responsible professional whom I rely on to be a stoner. "Divinity" has not incarnated as a common planetary weed, albeit with some recognizably medicinal properties. Leave "Divinity" out of your stoned revelations. Cannabis is not a sacrament, it's a lesser opium of the people, a consolation for non-achievement, and one of the reasons downtrodden and oppressed segments of society remain downtrodden and depressed. They've become too damn apathetic to get schooled or retooled to do much of anything. Open your eyes and ears around stoners - they're not getting smarter from being stoned, more insightful, or clear-minded - just the opposite. It's a wonder the powers-that-be haven't legalized it decades ago as a strategy to keep the multitudes just where they are with no threat to instigating change in society other than demanding that Nabisco keep cranking out those addictive Oreo cookies.
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I didn't read the replies but I like this a lot! Quite insightful yet simple.
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MarkostheGnostic said: Oh please. I stopped using cannabis around 1979 after 10 years of use. Stoners always want to justify being stoned. I don't want my pilot, surgeon, physicians, dentist, broker, accountant, or any other responsible professional whom I rely on to be a stoner. "Divinity" has not incarnated as a common planetary weed, albeit with some recognizably medicinal properties. Leave "Divinity" out of your stoned revelations. Cannabis is not a sacrament, it's a lesser opium of the people, a consolation for non-achievement, and one of the reasons downtrodden and oppressed segments of society remain downtrodden and depressed. They've become too damn apathetic to get schooled or retooled to do much of anything. Open your eyes and ears around stoners - they're not getting smarter from being stoned, more insightful, or clear-minded - just the opposite. It's a wonder the powers-that-be haven't legalized it decades ago as a strategy to keep the multitudes just where they are with no threat to instigating change in society other than demanding that Nabisco keep cranking out those addictive Oreo cookies. 
Just because Cannabis has the potential to be abused, does not mean that it does not possess uplifting and sacramental properties to some. Your post reeks of one-sided bias worse than a stoner's carpet that has absorbed many a spilt pint of bong water.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: deCypher]
#19205225 - 11/29/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that of the total percentage of stoners polled 99.9% said weed was better for depression than antidepressants. Of those polled, .001% said the antidepressants worked okay when mixed with cannabis. .00001% said, 'huh,' free pot is a better antidepressant than medical commercial pot. ("If they gave it away everyone would be happy-No brainer really, huh") Survey outcome, stoners when on antidepressants without pot feel majorly bummed, but they snap right out of it with some pot. "We're going to name this the Wavy Gravy Effect." We hypothesize that if 25% of a population is stoned there will be less traffic accidents and less violent theft as well. *
Extrapolation of the effect goes on to state that, "...when combined with girls going topless violent crime is decreased another 5 inches(sic), I mean percent."
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: deCypher]
#19205348 - 11/29/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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"REEKS!" Sacrament of the Stoner god! 'O Happy Daze, When Ganja Burned, When it Burned, O I'm SO Burned Out...I'm Burned Out..." [Sung to the tune of 'When Jesus Washed'].
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: DirtyTomFlint] 1
#19205389 - 11/29/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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DatIslandLife said: I didn't read the replies but I like this a lot! Quite insightful yet simple.
Medicines should be used medicinally. Chronic use of "Chronic" is just addiction, addiction is slavery and slavery is the enemy of freedom. However, I think everyone who is in prison for possession, use, or sale of cannabis should be released immediately! Of course, if you are stoned and hit someone while driving under the influence, then "Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200." But if you suffer from relentless anxiety, and IF cannabis relieves it (instead of evoking it, or paranoid states) then stay inside and take your medicine. Of course, I'd recommend psychotherapy from a decent therapist to get at the root of the problem instead of just treating the symptoms. Cannabis might be less addictive than benzodiazepines, but it's still addictive, it still seals brain cells in amber, slowing transmission speed of neuronal functions, and unless you're using a vaporizer, there is gonna be smoke damage to delicate lung tissue. If you want to be a 'career' stoner, helping nobody, including yourself, just stay off the roads, and do not show me your cardboard sign saying that you'll work for ganja.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: Deviate]
#19205504 - 11/29/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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HerbJunkette said: I don't understand why everything on Earth has to be so...mystified. Can't it just be a plant?
If you want to look at it as just a plant, no one is stopping you. However, the psychoactive effects give it a greater significance to many people. It is a sacred plant, because it can lead to degrees of awakened consciousness.
Sure, so the effects of LSD can do the same thing. I'm just gonna go out and say that LSD is a gift from the divine as well because Albert Hoffman was an angel sent down to help humanity.
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MarkostheGnostic said: Oh please. I stopped using cannabis around 1979 after 10 years of use. Stoners always want to justify being stoned. I don't want my pilot, surgeon, physicians, dentist, broker, accountant, or any other responsible professional whom I rely on to be a stoner. "Divinity" has not incarnated as a common planetary weed, albeit with some recognizably medicinal properties. Leave "Divinity" out of your stoned revelations. Cannabis is not a sacrament, it's a lesser opium of the people, a consolation for non-achievement, and one of the reasons downtrodden and oppressed segments of society remain downtrodden and depressed. They've become too damn apathetic to get schooled or retooled to do much of anything. Open your eyes and ears around stoners - they're not getting smarter from being stoned, more insightful, or clear-minded - just the opposite. It's a wonder the powers-that-be haven't legalized it decades ago as a strategy to keep the multitudes just where they are with no threat to instigating change in society other than demanding that Nabisco keep cranking out those addictive Oreo cookies. 
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: deCypher]
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Just because Cannabis has the potential to be abused, does not mean that it does not possess uplifting and sacramental properties to some. Your post reeks of one-sided bias worse than a stoner's carpet that has absorbed many a spilt pint of bong water. 
I'm pretty sure there's people who see their automatic weapons as having sacramental properties. The op is claiming a gift from divinity and I haven't seen the evidence. It can cause as many problems as it gives solutions. If you're going to call it divine then you need to include just about every material thing we know.
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Re: Marijuana is a gift from divinity [Re: Icelander] 3
#19206411 - 11/29/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No need to get upset just because kratom is not as spiritual as maryjane
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