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TheMustardTiger


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First flush, no trip.
#19164938 - 11/20/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Harvested a little over 2 grams, dried, of Colorado cubes on brf cakes a few days ago, dried them using a dehydrator at 95F degrees. Hooked my buddy up with the finished product and he claims he felt absolutely no effect from them. What could cause this? Genetics?
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cronicr



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yep genetics, full stomach , too much dosing, or he's lying looking for a freebie lol
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TheMustardTiger


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: cronicr]
#19164967 - 11/20/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't sell them so he wasn't lying to get them for free. He fasted for around 8 hours and hadn't eaten cubes in over a year. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a super mild trip, but nothing at all? Something isn't right.
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cronicr



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i know bud i was only joking! 2 g's ain't a whole lot and cubes are a crapshoot when using spores
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: cronicr]
#19164982 - 11/20/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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try the next flush, MS potency fluctuate 2g should be enough, i had cubes and tripping from 0.4
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Aero]
#19164993 - 11/20/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Either he took them on a full stomach or genetics. I'm guessing genetics are probably the cause as said before. I've read about this all the time, then when the grower uses a different strain, they get sent into outer space.
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cronicr



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i prefer 3-5 grams so this issue never comes for me
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TheMustardTiger


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Sounds like all this waiting and tending to was for nothing. Dang genetics.
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MustardTiger66 said: Sounds like all this waiting and tending to was for nothing. Dang genetics.
dont worry, the next one will be better
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: Aero]
#19165091 - 11/20/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've wondered this before. Did they bruise blue? Because if the genetics gave them no potency, then shouldn't be bruising blue. Blue is associated with psilocybin, and if they didn't trip, then that means they didn't contain psilocybin. The person who took them, might be on meds or have a tolerance to psychs from taking them to close together.
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TheMustardTiger


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My friend takes no medications, has not consumed psilocybin in over a year, and is a regular marijuana smoker. The fruits only bruised blue at the base where it meets the cake which is where I detached them. Cakes are also bruising blue with very little disturbance.
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shroomseng
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Try a 3.5 g serving, that's what I used to do when I tripped... Only the strongest one half of that would be a super strong trip.
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rickjamez20 said: I've wondered this before. Did they bruise blue? Because if the genetics gave them no potency, then shouldn't be bruising blue. Blue is associated with psilocybin, and if they didn't trip, then that means they didn't contain psilocybin. The person who took them, might be on meds or have a tolerance to psychs from taking them to close together.
ive read countless acounts of the blue bruising related to potency being malarky.
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: DeadPhan]
#19165166 - 11/20/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeadPhan said:
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rickjamez20 said: I've wondered this before. Did they bruise blue? Because if the genetics gave them no potency, then shouldn't be bruising blue. Blue is associated with psilocybin, and if they didn't trip, then that means they didn't contain psilocybin. The person who took them, might be on meds or have a tolerance to psychs from taking them to close together.
ive read countless acounts of the blue bruising related to potency being malarky.
its never been proved
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: DeadPhan]
#19165173 - 11/20/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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DeadPhan said:
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rickjamez20 said: I've wondered this before. Did they bruise blue? Because if the genetics gave them no potency, then shouldn't be bruising blue. Blue is associated with psilocybin, and if they didn't trip, then that means they didn't contain psilocybin. The person who took them, might be on meds or have a tolerance to psychs from taking them to close together.
ive read countless acounts of the blue bruising related to potency being malarky.
It is. They don't know why they bruise blue yet, there's 100s of compounds in mushrooms that haven't been isolated to verify the bluing component of cubes. It has nothing to do with potency but all mushrooms that bruise blue and have a dark purple spore print 99.9% going to be psychoactive. This is probably where the misinfo came from. There's plenty of light bruisers that will make you trip hard and plenty of heavy bruisers that are bunk potency. It depends on genetics. When using spores to start you'll have 1000s of strains in your PF cake and numerous strains will get together to make a MS fruit which may or may not be potent. Take clones and isolate strains from your fruits on agar then grow them out and keep the strains that were potent. You can find a potent strain in B+, GT, AA+ etc... all of the varieties will be able to produce potent strains if you select for potent strains on agar in 10000s of spores a few of them are going to be real winners find them and keep em around.
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TheMustardTiger


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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19165188 - 11/20/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Definitely going for agar/grains the next go around.
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MustardTiger66 said: Definitely going for agar/grains the next go around.


Edited by Trusted cuItivator (11/20/13 01:01 PM)
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: cronicr]
#19165623 - 11/20/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: i know bud i was only joking! 2 g's ain't a whole lot and cubes are a crapshoot when using spores
when i get complaints i tell them to man up and not be a pussy and take 5 grams minimum with a few beers!
i would say the dose was to low
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cronicr



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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: twistedty]
#19165640 - 11/20/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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twistedty said:
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cronicr said: i know bud i was only joking! 2 g's ain't a whole lot and cubes are a crapshoot when using spores
when i get complaints i tell them to man up and not be a pussy and take 5 grams minimum with a few beers!
i would say the dose was to low
i wanna party with you
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Re: First flush, no trip. [Re: cronicr]
#19165666 - 11/20/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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2g is nothing, doesnt even make me trip
2.5g-3.5g
but only take 3.5g in careful setting, turn off phone,lock doors, be undisturbed
3.5g which is 1/8th , is the default trip dose for most people
sometimes 2nd flush is stronger, I heard... not sure
always dose on empty stomach... else the shrooms dont work...
with MS syringes, genetics can be random sometimes... sometimes a batch doesnt work next flush might be insanely potent though :-)
wait and see.. but would do 2.5-3.5g next time personally, with sitter
(but I cant recommend doses to you, I am not your father;)
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