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The Venus Project 1
#19164610 - 11/20/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The world is complicated and it has many problems that are also complicated. And yet, the systematic, sustained application of human intelligence can probably solve these problems.
It seems to me that the Venus project is one of the best attempts to do precisely this.
I personally support this effort and approve of it.
What we really need is stubborn intelligence, willing to go blow for blow with stupidity for as long as is necessary to reform this retarded system we call a civilization.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164756 - 11/20/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.thevenusproject.com/
This might be the salvation of our species.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164761 - 11/20/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Venus Project - Future By Design - Full documentary
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164766 - 11/20/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fresco is a creepy Jewish pedophile and the venus project offers nothing original. Google utopian cults and you'll get the exact same ideas a hundred times over.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Thulean]
#19164788 - 11/20/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is there any evidence he is a pedophile? Is there some problem with him being Jewish?
Post a source for whatever it is you have against him.
What is The Venus Project?
The Venus Project proposes an alternative vision of what the future can be if we apply what we already know in order to achieve a sustainable new world civilization. It calls for a straightforward redesign of our culture in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but as totally unacceptable. Anything less will result in a continuation of the same catalogue of problems inherent in today's world. Today many people believe what is needed is a higher sense of ethical standards and the enactment of international laws to assure a sustainable global society.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164826 - 11/20/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Venus Project is an organization that proposes a feasible plan of action for social change, one that works towards a peaceful and sustainable global civilization. It outlines an alternative to strive toward where human rights are no longer paper proclamations but a way of life.
We operate out of a 21.5-acre Research Center located in Venus, Florida.
When one considers the enormity of the challenges facing society today, we can safely conclude that the time is long overdue for us to re-examine our values and to reflect upon and evaluate some of the underlying issues and assumptions we have as a society. This self-analysis calls into question the very nature of what it means to be human, what it means to be a member of a "civilization," and what choices we can make today to ensure a prosperous future for all the world's people.
At present we are left with very few alternatives. The answers of yesterday are no longer relevant. Either we continue as we have been with our outmoded social customs and habits of thought, in which case our future will be threatened, or we can apply a more appropriate set of values that are relevant to an emergent society.
Experience tells us that human behavior can be modified, either toward constructive or destructive activity. This is what The Venus Project is all about - directing our technology and resources toward the positive, for the maximum benefit of people and planet, and seeking out new ways of thinking and living that emphasize and celebrate the vast potential of the human spirit. We have the tools at hand to design and build a future that is worthy of the human potential. The Venus Project presents a bold, new direction for humanity that entails nothing less than the total redesign of our culture. What follows is not an attempt to predict what will be done, only what could be done. The responsibility for our future is in our hands, and depends on the decisions that we make today. The greatest resource that is available today is our own ingenuity.
While social reformers and think tanks formulate strategies that treat only superficial symptoms, without touching the basic social operation, The Venus Project approaches these problems somewhat differently. We feel we cannot eliminate these problems within the framework of the present political and monetary establishment. It would take too many years to accomplish any significant change. Most likely they would be watered down and thinned out to such an extent that the changes would be indistinguishable.
The Venus Project advocates an alternative vision for a sustainable new world civilization unlike any social system that has gone before. Although this description is highly condensed, it is based upon years of study and experimental research by many, many people from many scientific disciplines.
We propose a fresh, holistic approach - one that is dedicated to human and environmental concerns. It is an attainable vision of a bright and better future, one that is appropriate to the times in which we live, and both practical and feasible for a positive future for all the world's people.
The Venus Project calls for a straightforward approach to the redesign of a culture, in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt, environmental degradation and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but totally unacceptable.
One of the basic premises of The Venus Project is that we work towards having all of the Earth's resources as the common heritage of all the world's people. Anything less will simply result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems inherent in the present system.
Throughout history, change has been slow. Successive groups of incompetent leaders have replaced those that preceded them, but the underlying social and economic problems remain because the basic value systems have gone unaltered. The problems we are faced with today cannot be solved politically or financially because they are highly technical in nature. There may not even be enough money available to pay for the required changes, but there are more than enough resources. This is why The Venus Project advocates the transition from a monetary-based society to the eventual realization of a resource-based global economy.
We realize to make the transition from our present culture, which is politically incompetent, scarcity-oriented and obsolete, to this new, more humane society will require a quantum leap in both thought and action.
http://www.thevenusproject.com/about/the-venus-project
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164900 - 11/20/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This guy reminds me a lot of Hari Seldon from the Foundation series.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164925 - 11/20/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I enjoy kitschy futurist design as much as the next guy, but I don't see how this "project" is supposed to do anything. It's great that a bunch of guys like to hang out and smoke weed and draw pictures of shiny supertrains and pretty, logically organized cities, but it's not much of a solution to anything. By the time humanity has the technology, resources and work power to do any of these things, why would we still stick by these by-then decades or centuries old concepts? New and better ideas will probably have come about in the meantime. What we need are solutions that can be implemented now, and the hard work it takes to implement them. Also we need to reverse the population growth, but that's another story for another time.
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We certainly have the ``the technology, resources and work power to do any of these things`` already!
We could start implementing these plans tomorrow, no problem. Just requires political will and financing.
And yes, population urgently needs to be reduced.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19164959 - 11/20/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So we should replace our cities, housing a few billion people, with brand new circular cities and connect them with brand new maglev rails? I say nay. I agree human civilization is a very inefficient machinery but some realism when it comes to improving it would be nice, rather than pictures of shiny cities of the future where there is no trouble and no scarcity.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe] 3
#19164962 - 11/20/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have anything against him. Because It's something I've come to expect from his tribe. It would be like me getting angry at a dog for eating it's own faeces. If I were to be angry with him It would be a waste of my very valuable energy. He fits the stereotype so much of a conniving jew that it's laughable to me, so If anything I enjoy talking about him. For entertainment factors. And if you didn't notice his conniving jew features and more importantly conniving jew thoughts, then you are naive to his tribes ways and I won't waste my time educating you on that (it's a long read).
I wouldn't have said those things If I had no evidence... his paedophilia is demonstrated in almost any session where he discusses his ideas in length. Where a big part of his new society is sexual liberation of young women. As with any utopian society the family is vanquished, because it provides conflict and emotions. Things that aren't wanted in soma land. This "utopia" is nothing more than a dream of wealthy (paedophile) overlords fucking the hordes of prepubescent women while the robots (you, plebeian) have birth and take care of things.
Therefore any advocate of globalism and utterly unachievable utopian societies like this are more likely just lazy sex fiends coercing naive people out of donation money. Worse yet, imagine how many young women are brainwashed by fresco and become infatuated with him to the point of sex just because he chants about earth energies and bringing impossible peace to the world.
Like I said I have no problems with him as much as I have a problem with you posting this lame shit in the shroomery. If he has followers it is their own fault of their own stupidity, like. Any. Other. Cult.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Thulean]
#19164973 - 11/20/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you believe pedophilia is a prevalent quality among Jewish people?
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population growth is fine.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19165118 - 11/20/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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we need sensible reform in government before we can even start to work on a utopia
why scrap what we already have?
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19165214 - 11/20/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love you Moonshoe!
I fully support The Venus Project and always try to spread the word about it!
Glad to see others do too!
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"i fully support the Venus Project... by not doing anything towards funding or building it."
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If you go to the website it has a well organized system for finding out how you can get involved and what you can do. I did everything they asked me to
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19165236 - 11/20/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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is the project underway anytime soon, or no? i mean, i read about this Venus Project years ago...
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Shits getting done. I am fairly impressed with what they have achieved so far.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
#19165255 - 11/20/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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like what? can you give me any examples?
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akira_akuma said: "i fully support the Venus Project... by not doing anything towards funding or building it."
I don't support it in a financial way because I'm poor and transient...
but I support it by spreading the word to tens(possibly hundreds) of thousands of people!
I used to be really into it, there for a few months it seemed it was all I ever talked about.
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I have this idea for a really cool chrome zeppelin that'll take a guy from Neo-Nanjing to Big Wheel, Arkansas in no more than three hours. And it runs on 100% renewable bottled pipe dreams! I'll model it in Catia and send it to Mr Al Fresco asap!
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Well, go to the website man, look around!
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no one really cares...
isn't intentionally trying to derail a thread against the or something?
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Only yes men need apply. Got it.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#19165316 - 11/20/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: like what? can you give me any examples?
Well, go to the website man, look around!
i feel like getting some impartial information, thanks.
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I am surprised you think I can give you impartial information.
But basically they have built a large and well organized movement, an excellent website, some great documentaries and movies, a network of skilled professionals and scientists and engineers, a growing social movement, hundreds of designs, inventions, devices, blueprints and a well articulated and badly needed vision for a social revolution and a better future.
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ok, so nothing really? just social control, and some un-made designs?
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I actually do not know what they have concretely made so far in terms of buildings etc, but I personally am very impressed by what the founder and the movement has achieved so far.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe] 2
#19165383 - 11/20/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'm certainly not. years have passed now, and there is still not enough viable interest to make any strides in the project. it's so far only a think tank for radical ideas that are completely unfeasible.
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The founder of the project rivals Leonardo Davincii in terms of his prolific output of patents, inventions and designs. Its pretty damn impressive how much stuff he has invented and designed. Its humbling how much he and his movement have achieved. I know because as an academic, online activist etc, I know how much time, thought and effort it takes to do what he has done. Its frankly amazing.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
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best post yet.
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akira_akuma said: i'm certainly not. years have passed now, and there is still not enough viable interest to make any strides in the project. it's so far only a think tank for radical ideas that are completely unfeasible.
It is pretty radical, but we need a radical change.
and it's not unfeasible...
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akira_akuma said: i'm certainly not. years have passed now, and there is still not enough viable interest to make any strides in the project. it's so far only a think tank for radical ideas that are completely unfeasible.
It is pretty radical, but we need a radical change.
and it's not unfeasible...
It completely ignores human nature and its a Utopian pipe dream.
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It is pretty radical, but we need a radical change.
and it's not unfeasible...
need and want are two different things, and ya it's unfeasible. which is why no one is doing any of the things that is proposed in the "venus project".
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akira_akuma said: i'm certainly not. years have passed now, and there is still not enough viable interest to make any strides in the project. it's so far only a think tank for radical ideas that are completely unfeasible.
It is pretty radical, but we need a radical change.
and it's not unfeasible...
It completely ignores human nature and its a Utopian pipe dream.
I think it recognizes human nature and aims to apply intelligent, rational thought and disciplined, concentrated, focused, long term effort towards changing the trajectory of society in a positive direction. When you look at the crazy societies that have existed in the past there is no reason to doubt that a new future civilization can come into being, and every reason to apply rational faculties and thoughtful process towards the intelligent design and creation of a future utopia.
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It is pretty radical, but we need a radical change.
and it's not unfeasible...
It completely ignores human nature and its a Utopian pipe dream.
I think it recognizes human nature and aims to apply intelligent, rational thought and disciplined, concentrated, focused, long term effort towards changing the trajectory of society in a positive direction. When you look at the crazy societies that have existed in the past there is no reason to doubt that a new future civilization can come into being, and every reason to apply rational faculties and thoughtful process towards the intelligent design and creation of a future utopia.
I become uncomfortable when I am told what is best for me as the foundation and preservation of liberty rests in the individuals decisions not some governing body telling you what you aught to do.
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As an individual I decided I support the Venus project. No coercion is being applied. Its just a rational argument that when analyzed we expect people to eventually agree with and support.
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Re: The Venus Project [Re: Moonshoe]
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It is a new attempt by the communists to seize power
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