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OfflineDroz
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Are we limited by brain function?
    #19164249 - 11/20/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do any of you think there are limits to what we can do/think?

At this time i'd say that even with the use of drugs to alter brain chemistry and altering perception in reality while doing it, nobody ever thinks about the things that the brain can't do. We are limited to our construct of the chemistry in our heads.

So how do we really come to a conclusion that there isn't more out there? Far beyond the reach of our brains. Does it take millions of years of evolution as it did with Homo Erectus? Which was around 1.9 million years ago with half the size of brains as we Homo Sapiens have now. Knowing this what will become of our species another million years of evolution down the road. Considering you think that evolution to this higher state is possible.

Do we know the limits? Or are they unperceived?

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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: Droz]
    #19164280 - 11/20/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Our brain has no limit other then biological death.

The mind is willing but the body not able.:tongue2:


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: Droz]
    #19164323 - 11/20/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do any of you think there are limits to what we can do/think?

Of course/:lol:


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: Icelander]
    #19164343 - 11/20/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Do any of you think there are limits to what we can do/think?

Of course/:lol:


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: Droz] * 1
    #19164716 - 11/20/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Droz said:
Do any of you think there are limits to what we can do/think?





Yeah, I think there are some pretty clear cut limits.

Noam Chomsky once wrote about why Newton was the greatest physicist of all time, and he argued that it wasn't because Newton discovered gravity. After Newton discovered gravity, Newton went on to what was called at the time "the hard problem of gravity" in where he tried to prove why gravity exists. Of course, it was a futile search, and Chomsky claimed that Newton's greatest contribution to the world was the fact that somethings are inherently mysterious or mystical to humans simply because we lack the cognitive capacity to understand them.


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: r72rock]
    #19164719 - 11/20/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know why gravity exists.  It's so that apple seeds can make it to the ground. 

Hope that helps. :satansmoking:


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: Droz]
    #19164792 - 11/20/13 11:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19168794 - 11/21/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm.  They're two different questions entirely!

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Are we limited by brain function?




Probably...but who cares; nobody even knows whether thoughts are a function of the brain.  They seem to be influenced by the state of the brain when those thoughts are associated with a particular brain (e.g. while you're a human being), at least when that brain has been damaged or given drugs.

What happens to the thought process after your body dies?  If you're answering that question in your mind now, how do you know?

Brains are not very helpful for organizing our thinking about thinking unless we only care about the relationship between thinking and abnormal brain structure and function (one of the few questions about thought that neuroscience has a lot to offer).

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Do any of you think there are limits to what we can do/think?




We don't need brains to answer this question; there are limits to what we can think.  For example: you can't think about something you have no awareness of, and you aren't aware of everything.  Think about what a cat's experience is like.  Can you think your cat's actual thoughts?

Or if you prefer...what was your face before your mother was born? ^_^

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[the following is tangential to the original topic]

I used to think about minds almost purely in terms of brains / nervous systems.  After studying neuroscience and analytic philosophy I no longer can - it's an unnecessary and unjustified restriction on my thought process.

A professor once asked me: if you knew absolutely everything about the structure and function of a particular brain, and also everything about how the brain's owner behaved, all in real time - could you use that to explain consciousness?

I thought about that question all the time for at least a year after, haha.

I've found that this question alone - if honestly engaged - has a tendency to bring most physical materialists that dig the idea of brains=minds (or brains -> minds) face to face with their unquestioned assumptions about reality.  It did for me ^_^


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Re: Are we limited by brain function? [Re: hmmn]
    #19168827 - 11/21/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Relativity ftw.


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