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LSD or Shrooms?
    #19164128 - 11/20/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I am in college and looking for something new and adventurous to do. I have been doing alot of research on both shrooms and LSD but I was looking for more real accounts from others to know which one is better in terms of experiencing the most psychedelic trip.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19164158 - 11/20/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The problem with LSD is, unless you can trust its origin (or test it with a kit) you can't guarantee you're getting LSD; you might end up taking another, possibly dangerous substance which has been missold as LSD. That's the main thing you should worry about.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Libertin]
    #19164309 - 11/20/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

^Do you know what some of the substances are that can be fasley sold as LSD?


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19164384 - 11/20/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As previously stated other drugs are sold as lsd. Mushrooms imo aren't nearly as psychedelic.If you can't get ahold of real acid. I would say order some peyote or san pedro  ( legal) peyote isn't legal in the states if I recall.
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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19164513 - 11/20/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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^Do you know what some of the substances are that can be fasley sold as LSD?





The thing with tabs is that if you're at college, some of the deals you will be getting will be bunk (unless you know dealers well). Research chemicals like nBOME and DOX get sold on blotters all the time. However, I'd definitely still recommend acid over shrooms. Just gotta dedicate a full day to the trip!


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19164606 - 11/20/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If someone someone gets the chance look up "White Satan" on youtube and click "psychedelic trip"...I want to experience that stuff


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19164636 - 11/20/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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^Do you know what some of the substances are that can be fasley sold as LSD?




DOB, DOC, DOI, 25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, 2C-C and possibly other drugs from the NBOMe, DOx and 2C families. (2C compounds are usually active in dosages above that which could fit onto a 'blotter', nonetheless, claims of them being sold as LSD aren't uncommon but are often disputed). Also it seems that new research chemicals are being created all the time.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Libertin]
    #19164657 - 11/20/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I looked up nBome and it seems to have some of the same reported effects as LSD but idk how true the reports are


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19164695 - 11/20/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I looked up nBome and it seems to have some of the same reported effects as LSD but idk how true the reports are



My point is, that shouldn't be your primary concern, 25I-NBOMe is a relatively new discovery and has already been implicated in several deaths. Whereas there are no confirmed deaths resulting from the pharmacological action of LSD, according to Erowid. It's commonly accepted that LSD is not toxic and therefore could not possibly cause overdose.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Libertin]
    #19164713 - 11/20/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I completely agree with you on that. My problem will be getting actual LSD because I don't know my dealer. It will be through my close friend though.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19165036 - 11/20/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Shrooms would be a safer bet, just because it's exceedingly hard to get sold bunk shrooms. Acid will probably be closer to what you're expecting, open eye visuals and such. With both, it will largely depend on dosage, how far you go with them will come down to what you feel comfortable doing. Also, make sure you choose your set and setting wisely.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: TheHerbalColorado]
    #19165185 - 11/20/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So taking somewhere around 3.5 grams of shrooms would get me close to the desired experience?


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19165421 - 11/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you are sure you are getting genuine LSD I would go for that. 

The advantage with shrooms is you most likely know what you are getting is the real deal


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Melkor]
    #19165431 - 11/20/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Most psychedelic is an opinion that could be formed by dosage or brain chemistry. There really is no right or wrong. However LSD is active at much smaller doses so technically it could be considered more psychedelic by weight.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19165492 - 11/20/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't met a psychedelic I do not like


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: themusicofzann] * 1
    #19166671 - 11/20/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well so far everyone I know thinks im insane for wanting to try these drugs lol


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19166790 - 11/20/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd go for shrooms for a first experience, precisely because it reduces the paranoia factor, like OMG what if this isn't LSD what if this isn't LSD ???  :uhoh: :eek:

Shrooms on the other hands you can be more chill about, and for a first trip that's important. I'd advise about 2 grams in Lemon Tek, as that's going to be strong enough to feel it, not strong enough to freak you out. Lemon tek trips are shorter as well, so even if you get some bad vibes, the trip will be shorter.

From the second trip onwards, you can increase the dose, but don't start with the large doses you see here commonly unless you're really chill with yourself. You don't want a scary first trip overwhelming you to kingdom come.

Terence says that the danger with psychedelics is taking too little, because then you can fight it. For me, my first shroom trip was mild but very useful and memorable, and it gave me the confidence to try more and more on following trips.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19166869 - 11/20/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I am in college and looking for something new and adventurous to do. I have been doing alot of research on both shrooms and LSD but I was looking for more real accounts from others to know which one is better in terms of experiencing the most psychedelic trip.




Have you tried any other psychs or will this be your first time?


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: iamerror73]
    #19168639 - 11/21/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Please listen to the wise people who have kindly suggested having mushrooms as your first experience with psychedelic drugs.  In my experience all psychedelic drugs - in particular LSD, mushrooms, DMT, peyote - are like variations on a theme.  They're very similar to one another, but differ in character, duration, and ease of measuring the dose. 

Mushrooms are very easy to play with because the trip isn't nearly as long at a comparable level of intensity and because it's relatively easy to verify the material and dose correctly.

Don't go for a full 1/8th first time; try a couple grams in a safe and comfortable place and see how that is for you.  If it's good, do what you like after that. ^_^


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: hmmn]
    #19168894 - 11/21/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Please listen to the wise people who have kindly suggested having mushrooms as your first experience with psychedelic drugs.  In my experience all psychedelic drugs - in particular LSD, mushrooms, DMT, peyote - are like variations on a theme.  They're very similar to one another, but differ in character, duration, and ease of measuring the dose. 

Mushrooms are very easy to play with because the trip isn't nearly as long at a comparable level of intensity and because it's relatively easy to verify the material and dose correctly.

Don't go for a full 1/8th first time; try a couple grams in a safe and comfortable place and see how that is for you.  If it's good, do what you like after that. ^_^



this is a valid point.
I was going to rec. LSD, but I've never had shrooms... my first psych experience was L though and I've had about 10 other trips since then. each time has been great, past few, outright incredible.
if you can secure some GOOD, REAL L than that's my advise.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19168937 - 11/21/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

As others have mentioned you really can't go wrong with either, assuming your lsd source is trustworthy. Just be mindful of your dose and setting. :thumbup:

If forced to choose only one for a first time if say mushrooms


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Whitewater]
    #19169282 - 11/21/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i would go with the shrooms. that was my first psyc experience and it was awesome. i took 1/8 and had a blast.
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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: trippy.maniac]
    #19170271 - 11/21/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

LSD needs a full day, most of the time, so keep that in mind! You can feel pretty exhausted toward the end. Either psychedelic is a great starting place, however. I highly recommend tripping with a friend for your first time, most of the time it's more fun :mushroom2:


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: themckid]
    #19170285 - 11/21/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

lsd or shrooms?

only the duration differs IMO, thats the only reason I would chose one over the other

I would recommend LSD, more love :-)  , and no bodyload
but much love with shrooms too often

I did LSD my first time, as my first drug ever
no prob.. and always took 3 hits or above

no problem letting go when you dose high, only on low doses

I started with 1½ hit (hofmanns) , then upped dose to 3 hits each time

I always tested with Ehrlich test + UV test (uvpen ebay, $3)

no bad trips with LSD ever, done lsd 100+ times or so in high doses...
but many bad shroom trips

you have to learn to let go no matter if you chose LSD or shrooms, thats the only bad in a trip

dont do 25x nbome if you can avoid it.... get the real thing

the interesting thing is that I was much attached to my thoughts before tripping LSD
so you would think I would get bad trips easily when tripping high doses
but LSD is so gentle, it rips the ego apart without one noticing it...
shrooms are not always as pleasant for me

but it is what you think it is :-)  , any psychedelic can heal, they all do the same basically, very similar trip to all of them

LSD is medicine for the soul, you will be a loving buddhistic hippie before you know
like being reborn everytime, world is new/love for everything  , just no bodyload which shrooms have


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19171806 - 11/21/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would recommend mushies to go with the theme of knowing what you're buying, choosing them could be reassuring to you that it is a well recorded, classic experience. If you get sold a rc as lsd it could put you off psychedelics in the future (or not).  Also I would recommend you read up a little more before you jump in headfirst just so you know what you're getting into (it's nothing you can't handle, but remember it isn't a joke).


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Joker Flash]
    #19176093 - 11/22/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you're taking liberty caps, take a smaller dose than ~3 grams.  3 Grams of Cubes is alot more mild than 3 grams of libs.  There's a huge difference in the look, so it will be easy to tell what kind you're taking...liberty caps are very small when dried...1 grams usually works out to be between 30-40 mushrooms...where cubes you're usually eating one or two...maybe slightly more.  Google some pics if you're not sure...or snap a pic or two before you eat them and ask someone on here.

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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19176405 - 11/22/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Salvia before shrooms or acid, but shrooms before acid.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19176542 - 11/22/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with the people that said that the biggest thing with LSD is to actually get REAL LSD. No taste is generally a good indicator if it's LSD.

When it comes to LSD and shrooms I generally prefer shrooms. LSD is more fun and it's generally a more enjoyable experience but it seems a bit shallow to me ( at least at low-medium doses ) and I don't like the stimulants properties of it. The shrooms give me a much more profound trip and it feels very mystical and earthy. LSD seems more analyitical , shrooms more primal.

As I said if you are just looking to have fun , LSD is a better option but if you think you could appreciate a more difficult experience ( body and mind ) then the shrooms will reward you. My thoughts on shrooms are generally more primal , more basic , not so advanced let's say but they seem to be full of wisdom, the LSD has a more analytical and the headspace feels more sober. I haven't tried LSD at mega doses. LSD has more visuals and you don't have to eat a lot to see visuals , while on shrooms I have to eat a lot to get to the same point.

No matter what you try I am sure you are gonna love it. Just be careful trip smart and safe and in the right set/setting and it will be something you'll remember for the rest of your life!


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19184219 - 11/24/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Salvia before shrooms or acid, but shrooms before acid.




NOOOOO I've seen too many people get scared off of psychedelics because they try salvia first and think shrooms/acid will be the same but longer. Nothing really positive can come of salvia use IMO.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: TheHerbalColorado]
    #19194401 - 11/26/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I did salvia and it didnt scare me or anything lol it just made me want to take it to the next level


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19194487 - 11/26/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do whatever you can find first. Itd be a shame to turn one down because you wanta try the other first cause you might not get another chance for years. If you can get both do both my best trips came from combining them. If your scared about fake acid, just take one hit. most rc horror stories come from multiple hits. Or even a half hit if youre super paranoid.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: drjustice]
    #19194687 - 11/26/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Unless you can guarantee you're getting pure LSD from a trustworthy source, I'd stick with mushrooms. Mushrooms can guarantee you a trip, but there has been so many times where I just get shitty acid. Might even have just been paper lol.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19194927 - 11/27/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Most common Chems I see adulterating or "posing" as lsd are 25-i (Nbome) and other chems of the 25-i family "N-bombs" doc, doi, and 5meo-Mipt (moxy). I hope this helps.


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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: drjustice]
    #19194931 - 11/27/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Do whatever you can find first. Itd be a shame to turn one down because you wanta try the other first cause you might not get another chance for years. If you can get both do both my best trips came from combining them. If your scared about fake acid, just take one hit. most rc horror stories come from multiple hits. Or even a half hit if youre super paranoid.




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Re: LSD or Shrooms? [Re: Fivestartard]
    #19200103 - 11/28/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I did salvia and it didnt scare me or anything lol it just made me want to take it to the next level




I think if he wants a classic psychedelic experience OP should try a serotonin acting chemical first.


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