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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: GoldenEye]
    #19173615 - 11/22/13 04:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Of course you are... plants are like women, they love attention. You should sweet talk her as well.

:awetongue:





You got me brother :laugh:

I have been playing my sitar for her each morning for ten minutes if that counts as sweet talking...


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19174166 - 11/22/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Here's my little gem it gets about 5 hours of direct sun a day
and drinks about 1.5 liters of water a day gonna take heaps of
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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: acr81]
    #19175846 - 11/22/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nice acr81!

Hopefully mine will get to that stage of vegetation. The top new leaf shoots are slowly growing and it looks like a side shoot is coming from one side of a lower node too :thumbup:


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19183765 - 11/24/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hi all, just a quick update and question. I watered her lightly again last night as it's been fairly hot the last few days and she was showing more drooping.

One thing I noticed was that I've kept her facing the same direction in a window getting indirect light, mostly to correct a bend in the main stem, which has straightened up a lot more (still a slight bend in her though). Here's a picture:



My question is, and my apologies if it is an obvious one, the top set of leaves have started tilting towards the source of light it's been facing, as seen in photo above, should I rotate the pot regularly to avoid this or not worry about it?


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19184742 - 11/24/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

She looks like she has almost finished adapting. I would rotate regularly too keep the whole plant happy. Its not a must but i dont see anything wrong with rotating the pot.

Just rotate her when her stem and leaves bend to the light.

She looks like she is perking up


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: Herbalism]
    #19184813 - 11/24/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Herbalism.

She perked up the most after the first water. I watered again last night and followed your advice of lightly tapping after watering. Quite a bit of water dripped out of the bottom. The leaves didn't perk up as much after the second watering though it's been pretty warm the last few days.

I have a feeling the bottom two leaves will be the ones that will lose out to the adaptation, they look a bit ragged and have less texture than the top two big ones but that's to be expected with the stress of travel and change. The new ones shooting out at the top should be right in step with it's new home climate. Otherwise she seems to be doing okay :thumbup:


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19184938 - 11/24/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

She'll pull through she has been through the tough part.

All you have to do now is be patient and wait for her to grow nice and big which of course she will with your care. You can snip leaves in half if the tips are browning it usually helps for me but be careful dont do it too much.


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: Herbalism]
    #19185384 - 11/25/13 02:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Patience I can do. As long as she matures and stays healthy, I'll be stoked.

I have a good stash of plain leaf I got from a vendor when a legal loophole opened up in NSW earlier in the year so I'm not in a hurry to want to harvest and obtain leaves from her, she can take her sweet time growing (though I am interested in trying quidding at some point).


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19187612 - 11/25/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

kinda looks like basil :P


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: letterbomb325]
    #19273611 - 12/14/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thought I'd give an update of my sally...

She's still kicking along okay, I think she might have some fungus gnat problems, the leaves started to curl, including the new growth, and I started to notice when I'd check her in the morning and pick up the pot she's in to inspect one or two little insects would fly out. They weren't white bodied so white flies are out of the question and they were more black bodied and longer abdomen.

I treated her with a neem oil soil soak and a spray following that to the leaves. I also did this to the other plants sitting with her (a coleus, venus fly trap, pitcher plant and stenocactus (I didn't treat the stenocactus with neem as that is meant to be bad)). I haven't observed any bugs flying out since the soak and spray so fingers crossed. I will follow up in a week or so with another neem soak and spray just to be sure.

I've been watering every four days and misting twice a day. Temp has been between 26-30 degrees celsius and humidity between 55-80% through the day in the last few weeks. The top growth has come along well besides some curling. I ended up picking off the first lower rung of leaves as they had deteriorated from the acclimatisation. Anyway, here is some photo's from a day ago of her condition:




Any shroomery salvia gurus advice is welcome beyond what I have already done :smile:


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19273825 - 12/14/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am dying to get my hands on a salvia plant again.
The last one I ordered was such a heart breakers, It lost almost all of it's leaves then I nursed it back to health it developed 2 new beautiful leaves then it died. D: Going to try to give it another shot in the spring!


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: gardenstate]
    #19274037 - 12/14/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm no salvia expert but that soil looks over saturated. Maybe put it in a better draining mix? :undecided: Maybe it's water logged.


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19274055 - 12/14/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Hi all, here is a grow log that I am starting for my first grow of Salvia Divinorum kindly provided by a fellow Aussie shroomerite who I won't name for his own security but massive thanks goes his way, you know who you are :thumbup:

I just potted her up in a small pot as she is a small rooted cutting that travelled from Sydney to the QLD/NSW border over two days. I potted her in approximately 50% perlite and 50% all purpose potting mix and lightly watered her so only a small amount of water came out of the drainage holes into the tray and also gave her a light mist.

No humidity dome at the moment as she didn't have one before she was shipped off in her original location and I'm guessing shouldn't need too much acclimatisation?

Anyway, here are a few photos of her:

As you can see in the third and fourth pics down there is a bit of browning at the base of the stem, not sure if it is cause for concern or just some discolouration from the potting mix?

Anyway, her colour is generally okay and only a bit of browning on a leaf or two. There are two new leaf shoots at the top that will be interesting to see how quickly they grow.

Any tips or advice are welcome, peace :smile:




Peace :-)

It looks a little unhealthy
Be careful with overwatering, it can start to rot then(root rot)...

It has started to wilt a bit it seems

Put a cut coke bottle over her, then it grows much better in high humidity
keep growing in it till it has more leaves
slowly acclimatize, poke holes in the coke bottle

when you can keep the bottle off without it wilting it is ready to remove the bottle

I had bad luck with root rot once with salvia so it died, overwatering was the problem, and it didnt have enough leaves
it grows much better in a dome in my experience, but that is just what I would do
would only remove dome after maybe 4-6 medium sized/large leaves and when it doesnt wilt after doing it

after mine died I would only water once a week max or so, I had watered too often, maybe every 2 days
when it starts to wilt it often needs water iirc, but it could also be a sign it isnt acclimatized

putting the dome on always helps it grow much more healthily, when it has 6-8 large leaves or so the only thing you would need to worry about is root rot really, it can kill it if overwatered (and you cant know before the whole plant suddenly dies so be careful)
large coke bottles cut over in the middle works perfectly as domes (keeps co2 levels high, like a green house... it really makes it thrive)

keeping salvia lifted off from the ground is a good idea too, so fresh air can circulate into the pot from below (putting coke capsules under the pot works wonders there too) ;-)
if fresh air cant get into the pot you can risk mold/rot

be very careful with fertilizers, too much can kill salvia or any plant
be extremely careful when you add fertilizer...


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19275519 - 12/14/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Don't put a coke bottle on it or any humidity tent. Salvia grows fine in your conditions, it just needs to adapt. This can take a few months with small cuttings sometimes.

You are watering too frequently. Let that soil dry out down to your second knuckle on your index finger and then fully water the entire medium and repeat again.

When you repot it would probably help to add a third to half of perlite to the mix. Being indoors and away from wind takes the soil a little longer to dry. Salvia also grows a little weak/lanky when grown indoors, and will lean. Rotating the pot will help stop the plant leaning towards light.

It looks ok and should continue to improve if you give it time.


Here's a helpful salvia growlog by an Australian grower>>link


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: karode13]
    #19275688 - 12/14/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey mio, thanks for the advice. I have considered a humidity dome on and off but the plant donor suggested not to so I have been hesitant and she has been hanging in okay through the acclimatisation period besides losing 2 to 3 lower rung leaves and some drooping and curling (which I suspect is a fungus gnat problem that I have dealt with a neem oil soak and spray). Humidity dome would probably be a last ditch effort if she takes a sudden turn for the worst.

Hey karode13, there is about 50% perlite in the soil mix at the moment (though it doesn't look that way in photos). When I have watered, a lot does come out straight away through the pot holes so it is pretty free draining but I will hold off for longer until her next water. I will go for a different potting mix when I repot as the current one has some small wood chips in it and from reading around, that can attract fungus gnats (it seems it already has to an extent but the neem oil should hopefully sort that out). Edit: Thanks for the link too mate!

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated :thumbup:


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19277794 - 12/15/13 05:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He might know it better than me

What about cuttings  i always gave them domes?

But I assume if you take huge healthy cuttings you wont need a dome for them?

The watering is what I did wrong do it like he said :-)

Also it looks better in the last pic you posted
Since it keeps growing healthy leaves  always a good sign


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: lessismore]
    #19277992 - 12/15/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks again for the added advice mio. It isn't a real big cutting but the cutting is off of a strong plant. I have a dome in waiting in case she takes a turn for the worst. I'm definitely going to cut back on the watering, I think it might be a cause for the fungus gnats too. I just gave her a once over before and I saw a few of the little fuckers scurrying about and one disappeared into the soil! Gave her a good spray with neem oil water mix on the both sides of the leaves and a quick light spray on the soil surface too. I did this to my other plants too.

I've read around and found some good simple directions to control the fungus gnats:

1. Brew a black coffee with lots of sugar and put in shallow dish to attract the adults away from plants and they drown.

2. Put a layer of cinnamon powder over soil to kill any fungus and starve the larvae and kill them (If the infestation is bad enough, a cinnamon tea watered through the soil will go deeper).

3. Sliced potato on soil surface for the the starved larvae to feed on and collect every day and discard until no more gnats are left.

I will get the supplies tomorrow to get rid of these bastards. The sally is still hanging in okay apart from the curling and a little brown on the bigger leaf tips. I'll update as this progresses.

Thanks again everyone!


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: MrMoo]
    #19278007 - 12/15/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

those small black spidermites are normal with salvia

in a dome I could get rid of them by misting the leaves daily it seemed

salvia is pretty hard to grow...

when acclimatized and not watered very often it very rarely gets mites it seems
seems they really thrive in the dome / high humidity, so had to mist the leaves daily to get them off them

but try googling "spider mites salvia divinorum" , should have lots of info on it
they can be hard to get rid of, but they can kill the plant too if unlucky


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Re: MrMoo's Salvia Grow Log [Re: lessismore]
    #19278350 - 12/15/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Finally got mine growing nicely damn she drinks and drinks and drinks and grows in a day wow. Its winter here but mines inside in a very warm room so its basically summer.spring all year round in the room but without the humidity.


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    #19279719 - 12/15/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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