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Skinty
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Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono...
#19163664 - 11/20/13 06:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Opinions wanted on this please!
I have a mono that will prob be ready for fruiting in about 3 days. I have two print jars of rye that will prob be 100% around same time (they are a couple of slackers that lagged behind the rye that is now colonising the tub).
I am really not bothered about using / keeping this particular set of MS genetics and I am not going to use the jars for any other project. So - I can either dump the 2 jars in the garden OR I thought to myself "why not just pour them on top of the mono? This would increase the amount of food available in the tub and would not pose any increased contam risk??
Stupid or sensible use of these grains?

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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19163689 - 11/20/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you have a sgfc running you could put it in a tray and case it
I wouldn't pour it on top of a fully colonized tub. Sounds like a bad idea
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Stromrider]
#19163692 - 11/20/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Btw that jar in the center pic of your sig appears to have some kind of unidentified blue contam growing in it
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Stromrider]
#19163711 - 11/20/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: If you have a sgfc running you could put it in a tray and case it
I wouldn't pour it on top of a fully colonized tub. Sounds like a bad idea
Nah I smashed up my SGFC a while back 
I thought it might sound like a bad idea but then I could not think of any reason why seeing as the grain will be contam resistant 
Doesn not really matter in the grand scheme of things but...
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Stromrider]
#19163712 - 11/20/13 06:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said: Btw that jar in the center pic of your sig appears to have some kind of unidentified blue contam growing in it
No, it's been identified as bruising.
Green is a sign of contam.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19163719 - 11/20/13 06:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Skinty said:
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Stromrider said: Btw that jar in the center pic of your sig appears to have some kind of unidentified blue contam growing in it
No, it's been identified as bruising.
Green is a sign of contam.

Oh I see. My mistake
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Stromrider]
#19163732 - 11/20/13 06:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stromrider said:
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Skinty said:
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Stromrider said: Btw that jar in the center pic of your sig appears to have some kind of unidentified blue contam growing in it
No, it's been identified as bruising.
Green is a sign of contam.

Oh I see. My mistake
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19163823 - 11/20/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Which side of the equator do you live on?
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Psilicon]
#19163881 - 11/20/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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id throw in the garden man can never go wrong there unless its too cold
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: alabamamushie]
#19163893 - 11/20/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wish I could dump subs and the like in my garden. Its so dry here that everytime I try it the pins abort a day after they come up. Not to mention the foot of snow on the ground right now
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Psilicon]
#19164097 - 11/20/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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van der griegen said: Which side of the equator do you live on?
Errrr the uppy bit
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19164110 - 11/20/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I wish I could dump subs and the like in my garden. Its so dry here that everytime I try it the pins abort a day after they come up. Not to mention the foot of snow on the ground right now 
Yeh it's far too cold to just dump in the garden here for cubes. What I do is throw all leftover subs into my compost bin...nice and warm in there cos of all the metabolic action...hoping when I spread the compost around next Spring for vegetables might get a few cubes pop up somewhere...who knows ey?
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164122 - 11/20/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So know other answers to my OP question???
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164294 - 11/20/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't. Sounds like you have a healthy sub going there, why mess with it? Either spawn those extra grains to a mini sub and use it for experiments, like RR's wax paper tent FC or something along those lines, or just pitch it. Just layering a bunch of grains on top of your sub ain't gonna do the microclimate at the surface any favors, and while I'm a big believer in not using the coir layer on top when spawning, that is a lot of exposed grain just flapping out there in the breeze.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164486 - 11/20/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldnt put it on top of a mono because im pretty sure its not good to have exposed grains, but if you dont care to waste it, id say do a random experiment just for fun.
Use it as spawn to an experimental substrait.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: SalviaGod]
#19164528 - 11/20/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it would work, but I don't suggest it. You could always fruit them in-vitro. Take the lid off and put a layer papertowel or two and then put the ring on.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164570 - 11/20/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies all yeh I'll prob just do some in vitro thing for shits and giggles (as we say here in the UK )
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Take the lid off and put a layer paper towel or two and then put the ring on.
This isn't language I understand bod....my jars are just glass jars with a metal lid - no rings or any of that stuff
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164611 - 11/20/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glass jars with a metal lid take the lid off lay a towel down and put the ring back on. The ring that holds the lid is now holding a towel lid. The towel lets more air through
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164631 - 11/20/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Glass jars with a metal lid take the lid off lay a towel down and put the ring back on. The ring that holds the lid is now holding a towel lid. The towel lets more air through
I might be being dumb here but I still have no idea what this "ring" is my jars are literally glass and a metal lid - no rings!
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164656 - 11/20/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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As so you've never seen a mason jar.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164673 - 11/20/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: As so you've never seen a mason jar.

Ahh I see...we don't have those in the UK 
Explains some confusing things I've read on here in the past 
Wouldn't no lid and a rubber band or something to hold the paper towel work just as well??
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164688 - 11/20/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You bet. You just want to make some sort of psudo FAE to make the jar more like fruiting conditions. The lid you have for colonizing only lets gas diffuse but fresh air ever gets in.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164715 - 11/20/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Invitro fruits are fine. You can spawn or harvest them as desired. However, in the case of the original poster, he found contamination so they're not suitable as spawn for that reason.
Here's a few of mine. RR
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164804 - 11/20/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cheers bod...will be trying that...RR's jars in that pic look awesome
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164871 - 11/20/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sure the yield sucks but if you want to at least see something with 0 risk then it seems like a good choice.
I wonder if you could case it in the jar haha.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164889 - 11/20/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck the yield it will be more about having something pwetty sitting on my desk to gawp at
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Skinty]
#19164917 - 11/20/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wonder how long it will take to pin. You should keep it updated with pictures. I might fruit in-vitro if it doesn't take ages.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19164956 - 11/20/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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my ksss qaurt sat for four months with no pinning
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: cronicr]
#19165015 - 11/20/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Four months?!??! bejesus christ.... Well they are near to 100% so I'll label em up, leave em lying around and report back Mr. bod sir (with pics )
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: cronicr]
#19165086 - 11/20/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: my ksss qaurt sat for four months with no pinning
did you leave the same lid on?
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19165111 - 11/20/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i opened it plenty of times to check the smell, smelled like mushys i just didn't have the time to do anything with it, but after four months i dunked them and spawned, colonized in ten days fruited in just 5 with no mutants and went four flushes
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: bodhisatta]
#19165114 - 11/20/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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IME with KSSS they really need ideal conditions to pin. I know a cube is a cube but, I think most people who grow KSSS can agree that they are in their own mutated fucked up class almost like PE. I have never tried them with cakes but I have also heard that they don't do well on those either. Maybe its just me, but I got a feeling that they might just not perform in a situation like invitro fruiting.
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Re: Dumping colonised grains on colonised mono... [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19165134 - 11/20/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yep when i first started working with that variety i had a shit ton of ugly first flushes, then my brother consolidated his for a couple weeks(his bulk) and cased it and had him some beauts! been following it ever since and don't get the first flush ugly's
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