Home | Community | Message Board

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Invisibleopenmind
curious
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 13,866
Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this?
    #19163573 - 11/20/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know this is a somewhat common thing with salvia. The body moving around whilst one is "broken through", while one isn't in their body it wigs out sometimes. Rolling around on the ground, and/or flailing of the arms appears to be a common theme, or at least it's not unheard of.


Now when it comes to a break through with DMT, and DMT in general. Most cases I've read about, people I've seen, my experiences, and experiences I've heard from others, most people's body just sits/lays there through the duration of the experience while "they" are else where...perhaps some small mild random movements of the limbs, or noises/words let out, heavy breathing, some tears from crying, smiles, etc. Some things like that would be expected time to time, most people seem to appear as if they're asleep or having a dream.


I have heard of a story of someone moving around wildly after taking a rip of DMT, I read it here on the shroomery a while back, just forget who made the post. I've seen a friend pop up and attempt to walk out of the room while in the midst of a break through, or at least that's what his body was doing, he wasn't there of course. Another friend popped up quickly from laying down to sitting up, but just sat wide eyed breathing heavily at the edge of the bed. And a few months ago I witnessed a person roll around, flail his arms & legs wildly, screaming, laughing, crying, the whole shebang for a solid 10+ minutes after smoking some dmt....


So...basically what this thread is about, I'm curious how common is it for people to move around uncontrollably after smoking/vaping dmt (and I guess DMT in general, as far as oral/ayahuasca, etc). I know psychedelics can be unpredictable and some folks react differently, and sometimes shit does happen. But a common conception with DMT is that people just lay there with very little movement through the course of the experience. And that may be true most of the time, but the contrary of that might be more common than I (and most) think.


I had an experience with dmt a few months ago where my body was rolling and flailing around a lot for a moment. I was pretty far gone and oblivious to my body, but I ended up coming into the senses just enough that I started to grasp that my body was moving around wildly. That aspect of my body moving around was reminiscent of when I've had mild convulsions after fainting, except this movement was much more wild and animated. As I started to grasp what my body was doing, but still pretty far out, I quickly went from rolling around and flailing wildly on the ground, to sitting up with legs crossed and in perfect stillness, and rode the rest of the experience out sitting there. Up until then, my body was doing it's own thing.



Just wondering how often any of you move around with out control with dmt during break throughs, or if you've witnessed someone else do this, or have heard stories from others.





-OM


.


--------------------


Edited by openmind (11/20/13 04:48 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLiquidGlass
Glass Blower
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 5,288
Loc: Pee En Double You
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: openmind]
    #19163582 - 11/20/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The only time I ever really did anything was puking on it once, bu I was so far gone I did not even know I was puking until afterward


--------------------
Some art I've made Glass Art Gallery

I was raised a christian and was a stone-faced acid head
- Ken Kesey


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSulfurshelfsean
Defender of Cubes
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/29/10
Posts: 3,942
Last seen: 8 hours, 51 minutes
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: openmind]
    #19163587 - 11/20/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When I breakthrough, I usually lay there like a log, barely aboe to turn my head or lift my eyelids for more than a second. I know a chick in VA who claims a friend of hers smoked DMT and then ran to a balcony  and jumped off, killing himself. I really don't believe that though, I could see flailing around happening though.


--------------------


Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleK1ngSp4de
CHUT UP!!!
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 01/16/12
Posts: 1,680
Loc: Flag
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19163600 - 11/20/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One out of about ten people (including me) that I've given DMT to has flipped the fuck out, yes. I gave a friend a nice 40mg loaded machine and told him to puff tough since he didn't get any effects the last time (which was about two weeks prior to this).

He ripped the fuck out of it, and a few seconds later he got up, ran full speed toward my solid door, knocking over a table full of shit, hits the door hard, turns around and heads for the kitchen. I had to take him down to the ground by the neck and hold him until he came back, ~5-7min.

When he came back he was perplexed why we were on the ground. Needless to say he won't touch it again. I think it is a reaction to not letting go fully.


--------------------
                                    PC Repair and Troubleshooting Forum

If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.
                                                - Thomas Jefferson

                    Si peccasse negamus fallimur et nulla est in nobis veritas.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleJohnnyTripsAlot
Shroomer
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/11
Posts: 854
Loc: Canada
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #19163611 - 11/20/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Craziest experience of my life, complete blackout, and then same thing when I finally remembered what a body was and that I had one, I realized I was spazzing and breathing uncontrollably, 

All trips are impossible to fully explain, but I don't even try to tell people about this one at all, It redefined the term mindfuck for me.  It was like dmt literally had a huge dick and was just annihilating my virgin brains.

i remember thinking to myself " i really did it this time, im either dead or permanently retarded"


--------------------




https://instagram.com/cultivatedminds570?igshid=MzNlNGNkZWQ4Mg==
Cultivated Minds Extracts and Supplements


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleopenmind
curious
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 13,866
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #19163612 - 11/20/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

LiquidGlass said:
The only time I ever really did anything was puking on it once, bu I was so far gone I did not even know I was puking until afterward





Ah damn....Was this from smoked/vaped, or taken oral + maoi?






Quote:

Sulfurshelfsean said:
When I breakthrough, I usually lay there like a log, barely aboe to turn my head or lift my eyelids for more than a second. I know a chick in VA who claims a friend of hers smoked DMT and then ran to a balcony and jumped off, killing himself. I really don't believe that though, I could see flailing around happening though.




That's usually how I am as well with smoked/vaped dmt. Once I exhale, my eyes are shut and I lay down motionless. One time I was sitting on a short bar stool when I exhaled the hit, dissolved and become oblivious of my body, and when I came back to I was still sitting up perfectly straight. Even though I was far away from being conscious of my body it remained sitting up straight and still. I thought that was interesting to come back into.


Every time except my last experience with it I haven't moved or made noise at all. That last time I mentioned, I was also in a mental "loop" of sorts, and kept repeating some sort of gibberish or random words over and over as my body did it's thing. I stopped that loop and speaking of the random words at the same moment I got control over my body and sat up....I've never really experienced "loops" with DMT before either besides this one experience. Usually for my self, loops or things of similar nature only occur briefly and only very occasionally with moderate to high doses of mushrooms or LSD. Most of the time things are smooth and calm sailing for me, absolute silence and stillness.


And yea, I too find that hard to believe, a person full on running and going over the balcony. Possible, sure, but damn hard to believe. The movement of the guy I witnessed, which was more animated and lasted much longer than what I went through, was uncoordinated random movements of the limbs. Never actually standing up, just quickly rolling & flailing around on the ground, bumping into and rolling over tents (we were camping).




-OM


.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTripballsalot
Psychonaut
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/30/12
Posts: 123
Loc: United States Flag
Last seen: 9 years, 7 months
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: openmind]
    #19163628 - 11/20/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I usually go into vegetable mode for a few minutes after a hefty rip of deemsters as well. However a friend of mine apparently after a hit, freaked out, took off their clothes and tried rippin off his d piece. Luckily people were around to stop him. Crazy shit though


--------------------
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
― Hunter S. Thompson


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLiquidGlass
Glass Blower
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 5,288
Loc: Pee En Double You
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: Tripballsalot]
    #19163634 - 11/20/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


Quote:

LiquidGlass said:
The only time I ever really did anything was puking on it once, bu I was so far gone I did not even know I was puking until afterward




Ah damn....Was this from smoked/vaped, or taken oral + maoi?









It was from Dmt infused mullein, smoked very carefully. I put one gram of each in everclear(75%) and then dehydrated it


--------------------
Some art I've made Glass Art Gallery

I was raised a christian and was a stone-faced acid head
- Ken Kesey


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLiquidGlass
Glass Blower
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 5,288
Loc: Pee En Double You
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19163641 - 11/20/13 05:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey OM here is the thread for the gathering

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18869208


--------------------
Some art I've made Glass Art Gallery

I was raised a christian and was a stone-faced acid head
- Ken Kesey


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleopenmind
curious
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 13,866
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19166512 - 11/20/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

K1ngSp4de said:
One out of about ten people (including me) that I've given DMT to has flipped the fuck out, yes.....

.....When he came back he was perplexed why we were on the ground. Needless to say he won't touch it again. I think it is a reaction to not letting go fully.





Interesting...though not surprising what so ever. How much do you usually give people when trying it for their first time? Or does it vary depending on the person and their experience?


The dude I mentioned in my original post, that wigged out for at least 10 minutes, when he came back to he was perplexed at the same exact thing :lol: . Right when he was back, the first thing he said was asking why he was on the ground and laying on top of a tent . I asked him if he remembered smoking the dmt, he said he remembered taking the hit, but had no recollection of wigging out . I remember him mentioning that about all he remembers was that it felt like he was falling through a bunch of parachutes or circus tents (I forget which, but something along those lines), that's about the only aspect or bit of the experience he recalled at the time.

We were camping at a festival/gathering of sorts, and he had taken it laying down in the tent. Shit got wild, he some how worked his way out of the tent from moving/rolling around so much (not intentionally), knocked some shit over in the camp but we all quickly moved things out of his way so he didn't destroy anything or hurt him self. The only time we would grab him and try to move him was when ever he got close to a tent (that's about all one can really do in these sorts of situations, the person isn't going to respond so at least make the area safe). Dude ended up rolling over a few tents before we could move him. He would stop moving and go silent for brief periods but then would start flailing and screaming all over again, went through this cycle a few times...towards to end, the periods of him moving around & screaming became shorter, and the moments of stillness & silence grew longer.






Quote:

JohnnyTripsAlot said:
Craziest experience of my life, complete blackout, and then same thing when I finally remembered what a body was and that I had one, I realized I was spazzing and breathing uncontrollably, 

All trips are impossible to fully explain, but I don't even try to tell people about this one at all, It redefined the term mindfuck for me.  It was like dmt literally had a huge dick and was just annihilating my virgin brains.

i remember thinking to myself " i really did it this time, im either dead or permanently retarded"





:lol:.... That's exactly how I'd explain my experience that I mention in my first post. I exhaled the hit, instant explosion of chaotic everything (it was like my every sense, every aspect of my being, was flung into an violently oscillating/serpentine motion with a whole lot of chaotic fucking I don't know what going on.  Then quickly shortly after into black out for I'm not sure how long, come back into chaos and that's when I noticed my self wiggin' out & saying some words over and over again. But as soon as I grasped that I was spazzing out, I snapped into collecting my self into calm observer mode and was like that for the rest of the time.

I never had those thoughts you mention though, I couldn't even begin to form coherent sensible thoughts until I was coming back to, at which point I knew I'd be back soon.







Quote:

LiquidGlass said:
It was from Dmt infused mullein, smoked very carefully. I put one gram of each in everclear(75%) and then dehydrated it





Ah shit...I can't say I've heard of any people puking from smoking the stuff. One friend of mine, upon his first go with the stuff, thought he was going to puke at one point during the thick of the trip, but he never actually did. I've experienced some sharp discomfort in my abdomen/stomach area a few times, but not quite nauseating.







-OM


.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLiquidGlass
Glass Blower
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 5,288
Loc: Pee En Double You
Re: Moving/flailing around from dmt during "break through" . How common is this? [Re: openmind]
    #19166592 - 11/20/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ah shit...I can't say I've heard of any people puking from smoking the stuff. One friend of mine, upon his first go with the stuff, thought he was going to puke at one point during the thick of the trip, but he never actually did. I've experienced some sharp discomfort in my abdomen/stomach area a few times, but not quite nauseating.





I pretty much smoke it that way every time. I cannot really say I experienced any nausea. I cannot really describe the sensation at all other than it was very intense. Afterward I sat there looking around wondering where I was and how I had gotten there. It took a few minutes to realize that I had smoke DMT and was in my room alone. For a second I thought maybe I took too much L at a festival and lost my shit. Kinda felt like I was sitting on the ground and there were people standing around trying to talk to me. I could not see people, just felt like they were there. Eventually my room materialized and I knew what had happened. But afterward I felt fucking amazing and totally refreshed.

I always give it to people as changa and never had anyone else puke or complain of nausea


--------------------
Some art I've made Glass Art Gallery

I was raised a christian and was a stone-faced acid head
- Ken Kesey


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* General help with Mushroom extraction dunl0p 1,927 10 03/02/18 10:31 AM
by dunl0p
* DMT Prices? 351Shroom 7,750 11 08/10/02 06:03 AM
by Brukan
* salvia opens doors like dmt?
( 1 2 all )
1stimer 9,564 36 05/12/06 03:26 PM
by Kras
* DMT in fetuses.
( 1 2 all )
HidingInPlainSight 7,499 29 09/19/03 01:35 PM
by Twirling
* Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose?
( 1 2 3 all )
trypyamine 45,566 50 05/04/12 06:53 PM
by dmtisnot4me
* IV DMT Revisited
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 all )
chinacat72 43,813 146 07/04/19 11:47 AM
by Shenmue
* Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT?
( 1 2 all )
orizon 13,975 34 07/23/08 04:23 AM
by shroomzey
* DMT
( 1 2 all )
Jenherself 8,065 27 08/27/17 11:18 AM
by Blabble40

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
2,345 topic views. 2 members, 74 guests and 19 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.