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DMT is not to be fucked with...?
    #19162407 - 11/19/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So I just tried DMT for the first time. I did enough to get really close to breaking through the film, and seeing what was on the other side. All I saw was pure, utter insanity. I felt that if you go all the way, you lose a part of yourself up there. You don't come back a rational and sane person. Someone told me that after you try it you'll look at it the way a child looks at an electrical socket after sticking a fork in it. Spot fucking on.

Is this just my initial apprehension and fear of something really, really intense, or am I being rational here. I feel like packing a bowl with more in it and going deeper, but at the same time I feel like that would be a huge mistake, and I wouldn't come back sane. Do any of you DMT using folk feel like you lost something up there, and came back screwy? Or do you feel like that was just your first impression, and it's actually not at all like that?


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19162435 - 11/19/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe before you ever smoke it you are screwy and when you come back you are sane  :shrug:

I personally have never experienced dmt, but I know plenty of friends that have and they do not seem any different after doing it, from my perspective at least.  They were weird to begin with so I cannot tell any difference.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: dodgem]
    #19162463 - 11/19/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

maybe you switch bodies with a fake version of you in hyperspace and he's the one that returns but he tricks your body into thinking it's the old you. meanwhile the real you never comes back :rasta:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: dodgem]
    #19162469 - 11/19/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca pretty much scared my soul.... or the being I experienced on it. DMT was more exotic and astonishing


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: Jesus Cristo]
    #19162472 - 11/19/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't break through, all that I saw was hints of what lies beyond, which is the loss of clear, rational thought, completely and utterly. It scared the shit out of me.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19162476 - 11/19/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've done lots of dmt and I'm as rational as ever.  Sure you lose pieces of yourself on DMT trips, but you can usually find replacement parts before the trip is over. I've got one green eye and one blue eye now, and I was born with brown! Nothing to worry about brother, go deeper!


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: Ram Dass]
    #19162515 - 11/19/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What if those replacement parts don't belong here. I've known the guy I bought this stuff off of for a while, he did it for the first time a few days ago and broke through. When I met up with him one eye seemed a little lazy, which it was not before, and he would do these little things that just seemed off, for example, taking napkins one by one, like 30 of them, and folding them up whilst saying gotta stock up on napkins.

Am I just overthinking and overanalyzing this? Or am I giving myself a legitimate warning to STAY THE FUCK AWAY.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: dodgem]
    #19162525 - 11/19/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I do not feel like I have lost anything in the DMT experience. If anything it has caused me to contemplate and question reality, but not to the point where it affects my daily life.

I still get nervous and fearful before trying it but I think that is to be expected with something so powerful. That being said every time I have broken through has been a completely blissful and/or awe inspiring. But I still get nervous before, you just have to take that 2nd or 3rd or 4th toke or whatever one it is that takes you there


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162540 - 11/19/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah fine, but do I really want to when I told myself quite specifically, right on the cusp of breaking through, that this is extraordinarily dangerous, stay away. The reason I'm asking is because nonetheless I was fascinated by the experience, and would like to try again, I just don't want to damage my mental health for some psychedelic masturbation.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162545 - 11/19/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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and he would do these little things that just seemed off, for example, taking napkins one by one, like 30 of them, and folding them up whilst saying gotta stock up on napkins.





Lol that does not sound like anything I have ever experienced or known anyone to experience from DMT. That being said if someone were to already have a predisposition to psychological disorders than psychedelics could bring it out sooner than it would have on its own.

But psychedelics normally do not cause those types of problems in a mentally healthy individual


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162553 - 11/19/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's the thing, he wasn't on DMT. He was sober, and his behavior just seemed awfully off.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162579 - 11/19/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I can say that I was really nervous when I first started trying it. I would smoke to the point where I would almsot break through and then chicken out.

Most of those trips were fairly uncomfortable and disappointing. With every trip I had the intention to break through and bailed out every time. It took about 7 times before I got up the courage to just go for it.

I had a sub breakthrough dose and it was so unpleasant and shitty I almost told myself I would not do it again. But then i told myself to just stop fucking around and go for it.

So I went and showered and sat in my room and played some mellow music, lit some palo santo, and just tokk 3 or four huge rips and blasted off. It was quite amazing and unlike any of the previous trips, and I was really glad I made that decision

I have not had any bad experiences yet and I do not do it very often. Maybe once every few months


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19162599 - 11/19/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's the thing, he wasn't on DMT. He was sober, and his behavior just seemed awfully off.






I realize that he was sober and what i am saying is that in my experience that will not happen from DMT unless you have some underlying mental problems to begin with even if they have not surfaced yet. 

Most people that are at risk for that are people who have a history of mental illness in their family.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162608 - 11/19/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you have mental illness in your family then I would be cautious, if you do not and you feel like you have a good head on your shoulders than go for it.


Do you have any other experience with psychedelics


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162644 - 11/19/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No history of mental illness in my fam. I suppose in the spirit of courage, and experimentation, I'll try again. But, at the same time, try to look at this experience as nothing more than that, an experience completely outside of reality, with nothing to bring back. I've been tripping on acid and mushrooms since I was 15. Highest mushroom dose was 7 grams, highest L dose 3 hits of quality quality shit. Had a K-hole binge, IM'd at the very least 2 grams in a 2 month period. Feel saner then ever thankfully.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19162715 - 11/19/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Um yeah you should be fine, just take 3 huge hits (if you get that far) and hold them in for a long long time, have a place to set the pipe and a comfortable spot to lay back and close your eyes. Dim lighting helps.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162816 - 11/19/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I went for it. Could have broken through, but I held myself back. It was made crystal clear that DMT is not for me. I'll wait till I die, then get my fill. I have to say though, it's extraordinarily beautiful. I had Boards of Canada playing, hearing Dayvan Cowboy unravel and turn into a floating symphony. Marvelous. It didn't scare me this time. It was more like it talked directly to me, and told me to stay away. :deemsters:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19162929 - 11/19/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It wouldn't do that. I had a similar experience. It is only your subconscious talking to you. I went through the same thing. Keep it around, you may want to try again in a couple months, I did


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162935 - 11/19/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Could have broken through, but I held myself back. It was made crystal clear that DMT is not for me.





Yeah until you full break through you really cannot say whether it is or is not. It is quite a different experience altogether. ANd those sub-breakthrough doses can leave me feeling very unsatisfied


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162951 - 11/19/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It is only your subconscious talking to you.




Well my subconscious made it quite clear that I need to stay grounded in reality, and that I can wait till my life ends. I got a glimpse and that's really all I needed. I'd rather pass along what I have left to my friend and stay humble, and remember what I was told. But hey man thanks so much for the advice, it helped me get past the initial shock and fright, which is something I appreciate no longer harboring in my heart.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19163014 - 11/20/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Plus I remembered that my uncle is pretty fucked in the head (he broke my door down with a fire axe and threatened to kill my pets, making me choose who goes first, cause I wasn't doing well in school), he was fascinated with psychedelics same as I am, and he has broken through on DMT. My subconscious also made it clear that if I come back, and break through, it will undeniably fuck me up psychologically, so I'm choosing to abstain for my own sake, even if it's not true. I'd rather not risk it. But if it makes you happy man, break on through, break on through :stoned:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap] * 1
    #19163033 - 11/20/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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But if it makes you happy man, break on through, break on through :stoned:




It is not really something I do to satisfy a desire for happiness. I just appreciate being able to have the filter removed and see the inner workings of the universe. It is a nice reminder that what we see is not all there is, but what we do here matters and we do not have a lot of time so we better do it right. That is mostly what i get out of it


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19163085 - 11/20/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's fantastic man, that's what I get from Lucy. I guess at this point I'm content with not seeing the inner workings of the universe, and just living life the best I can while I'm here. Have a good fucking night my friend.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap] * 1
    #19163100 - 11/20/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would say then that you should listen to this subconscious or higher self.

I believe the context in which you use dmt matters a lot.  I've heard of people who have gone mad from practicing magick/shamanism. This sort of short cut can be dangerous let alone.

I personally fancy the shore line from time to time.  There are some nice sea shells to pick up along the way.


I've heard some other people say the same thing about dosing lightly being more beneficial to them, to each their own.  I've broken through once, and yeah- it was really scary for me at the time. I've also had experiences with dmt where I had not broken through but had a far more scarier experience. 


I think it has the ability to gradually effect you in a subtle manner over a period of time after the experience, for better or for worse.

I would suggest some form of spiritual protection.  If indeed it is likely to come into contact with astral entities through dmt, which I believe it is, then you should be Way more careful. 

I also think the way you consume it can matter.  I don't think I would ever want to mix it with cannabis herb again. I found it more pleasant to fill a bowl full of white ash from incinerated cannabis and then stir in some of the dmt and run it through a homemade bong of sorts. 


Burn some frankincense.


Also maybe your friend was stoned or going through a burned out period of time, that sounds like something a stoned kid would do.


By the way, I don't think Dmt will give you a glimpse into your after life, but I do believe it is possible to tap into something very real. 

Though that can also lead into delusions.  Dmt is something else that I can't quite pin down, the experiences available through that substance vary wildly from person to person. 

Take of this as you will.


I think Lsd is the most therapeutic when dosed correctly.  Though I've been able to break through a lot of struggles and self doubts with dmt.

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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19163104 - 11/20/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
It is only your subconscious talking to you.




Well my subconscious made it quite clear that I need to stay grounded in reality, and that I can wait till my life ends. I got a glimpse and that's really all I needed. I'd rather pass along what I have left to my friend and stay humble, and remember what I was told. But hey man thanks so much for the advice, it helped me get past the initial shock and fright, which is something I appreciate no longer harboring in my heart.




DMT is probably like any other psychedelic when you break through

you wont be the same you after breaking through

for some they never come back

for some they get a new self that they enjoy more

but dont let that scare you, many people have had egodeath

people usually have a reason to go there....
seeking ultimate knowledge would be a very bad reason
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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: lessismore]
    #19163135 - 11/20/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Biodiversity: I really hope my friend was just stoned, it would hurt a lot to see him fuck himself up. He seems to be in control, I just hope he remains so. Oh I'm listening to my subconscious, no doubt about that. Never before has it made such a direct communication with me, which leads me to think it was saying something important.

Mio: Lsd already does it all for me, I don't need dmt for self-reflection. In fact I think the length and smoothness of an acid trip is much more suited to introspection. Dmt, it ain't for me :lol: nonetheless I'm real glad I finally got the chance to try it, as I've been pretty fascinated for a long time.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19163192 - 11/20/13 01:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

walk in nature + lsd + psytrance I can recommend

but any psychedelic can be equally intense


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: lessismore]
    #19163213 - 11/20/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I guess it is good you tried it again, glad you can walk away not feeling shocked or frightened now, and are a little more content with the experience  :thumbup:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19163651 - 11/20/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Done DMT plenty of times in forms of freebase, changa, and ayahuasca and I consider myself pretty damn sane. No you will not lose any part of you. Not anything desirable at least. This is why I told you to ignore the apprehension. It feels like a one way ticket to the looney bin, but as long as you're a psychologically healthy person once you break through that veil you're going to be shown all kinds of wonderful things and then glide safely back.

You need to learn to let go though. Stop holding on to whatever it is that makes you scared.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19164833 - 11/20/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Done DMT plenty of times in forms of freebase, changa, and ayahuasca and I consider myself pretty damn sane. No you will not lose any part of you. Not anything desirable at least. This is why I told you to ignore the apprehension. It feels like a one way ticket to the looney bin, but as long as you're a psychologically healthy person once you break through that veil you're going to be shown all kinds of wonderful things and then glide safely back.

You need to learn to let go though. Stop holding on to whatever it is that makes you scared.



This^
But I gotta say after finally breaking though recently.  DMT is not for a simple psychedelic trip.  You have to have a level head on your shoulders to go into it.  Having a sense of intent certainly helped me, but I'd be flat lying if I said it didn't scare the fuck out of me at first.  It's just so quick! :thisisheavyman:
It shows alot of maturity to be able to recognize that this one may not be for you OP.  I'd say give it some time, put it away, and forget about it for a while.  Years maybe!  Who knows?  Maybe you will be in a place where you just need to be outside yourself for a while.
For me personally I had 1 sub breakthrough experience, because like you It just weirded me out.  Years later, a little more mature, I was able to breakthrough, and it definitely wasn't fun and games.
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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19164897 - 11/20/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe one day I'll go for it again, but not now. I'm at an early point in my life, I can wait till I have no responsibilities to worry about.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19164955 - 11/20/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That's a good attitude to have.  I bet when you feel more comfortable with it you will get more out of the experience.  Although, I've got to say, nothing is gonna really make you feel any better about it except actually breaking through.
And although time may help a little, In my case 4 years wasn't enough time for me not to get the willies and almost back out.  But its like bungee jumping, you just have to let go of the fear and jump in.  You will come back. Or at least, I did.:zoom:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19165494 - 11/20/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Embrace DMT


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: themusicofzann]
    #19166268 - 11/20/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get it, it's amazing, it's beautiful, it's exotic. I've never seen anything like it, and as of now, I don't feel the need to do it. Simple. If I feel I want to try it again at some point, I will. Things like bungee jumping man I wouldn't hesitate for a second, I'm a courageous guy. This was just a little to much for me at this point in time. I have responsibilities and things to take care of in reality, and Lucy works for me. Why do something I don't need or want to do?


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168416 - 11/21/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is ridiculous, I can't get the experience out of my head. I keep on asking myself what if my subconscious is wrong? What if this is some kind of test? What if I'm supposed to be destroying my ego? What if I'm supposed to break through, but I'm holding myself back? But then again... What if my subconscious is right?

Should I just go for it? Just take that last third hit?
Or should I listen to my subconscious, and stay away?


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168426 - 11/21/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you know it, you felt it your entire life
there is something wrong with the world
what is wrong you cannot explain
like a splinter in your mind driving you insane
take the red pill or the blue pill?

but you already know what you are going to do, dont you?

:wink: j/k ... but nobody else than yourself can make the decision...
it will not be pleasant most likely..


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168428 - 11/21/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just hold on to it and wait a while. It is likely in a month or two, or even sooner, you will want to try again. As you said before you have time and there is no need to rush into it, unless you really desire to break through sooner . . .


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168431 - 11/21/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if your friend is blaming that on dmt, hes an idiot. sorry

from my 70+ times of smoking dmt ( alot of heavy doses)  nothing permanent has ever happened me like that lol.

ive gotten eye twitches off too much molly before, but no lazy eye off dmt lmao.

ive been on a dmt binge every night after work for almost a week now, that "scared" feeling you get is something you will overcome soon...that is if you truly wanna see whats on the other side :dawerp:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: lessismore]
    #19168432 - 11/21/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:kummeli:
I do, I'm gonna wait a couple weeks or months, just for the sake of respecting its power. I just hope, truly, that I'm not making the biggest mistake of my life.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168435 - 11/21/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if youre thinking those kinds of thoughts, then its not for you pal.

It already found you, you shouldnt be afraid. it is time.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168441 - 11/21/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

some good psy to take your mind off it maybe


let it happen when it is time
dont search for the answers, if you are happy
and if you arent happy, maybe realize why that is


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: lessismore]
    #19168466 - 11/21/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I like that, gonna have to give it a full listen later.
I am happy, not so much looking for answers as I am desiring to finally open my eyes. Have you ever felt like the universe is communicating with you, and you can communicate back? I tried communicating that I want my eyes to be fully opened, and boom, my friend all of a sudden acquires some dmt.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19168533 - 11/21/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

stellarshnap said:
I like that, gonna have to give it a full listen later.
I am happy, not so much looking for answers as I am desiring to finally open my eyes. Have you ever felt like the universe is communicating with you, and you can communicate back? I tried communicating that I want my eyes to be fully opened, and boom, my friend all of a sudden acquires some dmt.





Sometimes yes. I have heard it said more than once that you do not find DMT, DMT finds you. And in my case it did find me, I was not looking for it at all and it just kind of fell into my lap.

You get out of it what you put into it. So if you go into it with love and respect you will most likely have a positive journey


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19179621 - 11/23/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm tired of this poisonous pit of scumbaggery I refer to as my ego. It needs to go. Do I even need DMT to get rid of it? Do I need drugs to cure myself of this... poison? I've used drugs as a tool this whole time, is it time to let go and be my own tool?


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19179630 - 11/23/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

dmt is some crazy shit brah had me tripping so hard seeing crazy geometries my dudessss! Not for the n00bs!


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19212665 - 12/01/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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I'm tired of this poisonous pit of scumbaggery I refer to as my ego. It needs to go. Do I even need DMT to get rid of it? Do I need drugs to cure myself of this... poison? I've used drugs as a tool this whole time, is it time to let go and be my own tool?





While it is good for us to be reminded that our ego is just an illusion, we need it to survive in society, unless you plan on being some monk sitting up on a mountain top all day doing nothing


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19213386 - 12/01/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you're going for Ego death...

Salvia was a good way for me to experience the edges of Ego death. At its peak, the salvia flattened me, for moments I was not sure if I would return to my usual state. I was a block of color sliding in space.

What I found most beneficial about Ego loss was that for the subsequent hour after the Salvia subsided, all of my physical and social concerns returned to me - one by one - and I laughed at each one, realizing the absurdity and trivial nature of the things that I previously regarded as important. You just look at things differently. I was able to relax and take it easy for a week afterward.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: CricketMan]
    #19213403 - 12/01/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Recently diving into DMT, but I've only been captivated by visuals in a playful way. Though I've heard it pushes you to Ego death as well.

Please post some description of your DMT Ego loss if you get there  :psychsplit:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: CricketMan]
    #19213437 - 12/01/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Remember one and a half year ago... I was meditating on a dream herb and incence... nothing remotely psycadellic...

then I had a vision...maybe a hallusination of a troll ON my closet, ln the surface  and there was waterfalls through its eyes, and I saw through the eyes where I saw a purple portal of sorts.. I felt myself being pulled into it, and then I ...snapped out maybe? But believing I was beccoming truly insane just the same...

then I realized what a discrase to hummanity I had been an excuse for a human... so.. sanity is quite relative..


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: CricketMan]
    #19214177 - 12/01/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Take it slow... Salvia and DMT are not toys , but I assume you know that ;-)

Neither is Egodeath, it can change your life a lot each time

Egodeath was spiritual to me, but I didn't try to get there
psychedelics are sacred tools that can make us understand who we are and why we are here
they can also be good for understanding own problems

and should be treated as such IMO


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: lessismore]
    #19214707 - 12/01/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I ended up taking acid. It was a growing experience like no other. Alex Grey painting after Alex Grey painting. For now I'm still going to stay away from DMT. Thanks for all the advice guys, it's much appreciated. :heart:


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: stellarshnap]
    #19214804 - 12/01/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You could look into anatta if you want to get over yourself as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatta

People can guide or direct you towards the point, but you ultimately have to do the looking from a point beyond the self.


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: teknix]
    #19214821 - 12/01/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Check out this thread if you want, it might help:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18709850


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Re: DMT is not to be fucked with...? [Re: teknix]
    #19215411 - 12/02/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know what you speak of. I have have gotten to the point where I thought I was not going to have my sanity after the trip. It had me scared of DMT. That fear made me anxious and steered the direction of my future trips (I do it orally so trips are usually 2-4 hours for the more intense effects).

Then I made the decision to take some stuff to keep me calm one time during the come up. I had the most beautiful, joyful, blissful experience. Ever since then I'm not scared of the DMT and I don't feel anxiety and my trips are better and I don't need anything to calm me (although I still love kratom and kava anyways to smooth things out. DMT always has a heavy body load for me, and this helps with that). It is still an unpredictable psychedelic though. I never know where it's going to take me.

You may want to give it another chance. Try doing less of it, and perhaps do it sometime when you just feel extremely calm and peaceful. Or you are under the influence of chemicals to make you feel that way lol.


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