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SupaThaRipper
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161007 - 11/19/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Once my cats ripped some filters off my jars and i was able to slap some bandaids on... no contaminations.. so whats the problem?
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rumfor69
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
#19161024 - 11/19/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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SupaThaRipper said: Once my cats ripped some filters off my jars and i was able to slap some bandaids on... no contaminations.. so whats the problem?
it's obvious the problem is that your jars are where your cat can get to them. Just cause it worked once doesn't mean you should give ur cat ur jars and a box of band aids every time you grow.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161047 - 11/19/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 if you don't like polyfil you can just be a big kid and keep your misleading mouth shut. Fact is poly and ez felt work. Better isn't even relative when both poly and sfd both give 100% success. I've only ever been able to trace my contams down to something other than my GE.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19161062 - 11/19/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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poly and sfd's can't even be closely compared to each other u def have no idea what your saying. Or how small contams really are.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161080 - 11/19/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: you still haven't even answered the OP question.
No, because I thought you did that...
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rumfor69 said:
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otherr said: Would a Surgical face mask be a good replacement for Synthetic filter disks or no?
No a surgical mask wont work.

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rumfor69 said: no wonder 15 members are ignoring you....
I know right......can we make it 16????????????

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Edited by PussyFart (11/19/13 06:24 PM)
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: PussyFart]
#19161267 - 11/19/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where is the scientific evidence that polyfill and ezfelt doesnt work? I have my evidence that they do work.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: PussyFart]
#19161271 - 11/19/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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rumfor69 said: ya so keep telling ppl its ok to use things like polyfill or felt even
though using it is like trying to catch a house fly with a barb wire fence.
Micron sized bacteria can crawl right through it. Sure it may work, a bunch
of times even but is it worth the 60-70% success rate it will get you????
Why would you keep teaching ppl older less successful ways of doing things????
Sure it "CAN" work, if that's the kind of attitude u put into ur work then
you'll get that amount of return from it.
Bro, people use it all the time with 100$ success....
Even I had great success using polyfill stuffed in a hole when I first started....look it up...its all recorder in the search function.
I would never recommend anything that had that low of a success rate.
Stop acting so butthurt......you were wrong...deal with it.....EZ Felt works just as good, if not better than tyvek.....
I use stuffed polyfill for my jars all the time, my contam rates are not even close to 40%
Honestly it is all preference, there a wide array of items that are suitable for the job
But for me, polyfill is cheap and efficient and has never let me down. All contams I blame for poor SAB technique or poor grain prep. Not the filter. No reason to get strung out about it.
Edited by nn-IlliniSpiralDMT (11/19/13 06:59 PM)
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rumfor69
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how can polyfil be cheaper and more efficient than a $0.99 SFD that can
be reused thousands of times and filters down to .3 microns???????
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69] 1
#19161441 - 11/19/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Guys, use what's easier to get wherever you grow. It ain't worth pissing at each other over. I live in BFE, so it's easier to use synthetic filter disks since I can use them over and over. If you live in a city near craft stores, you can get all sorts of cool stuff. If a fabric is loose, pack it down tighter. The bottom line whatever you use can't melt or distort enough to allow bacteria or mold spores to enter, but must still allow the gasses to vent. It also must be synthetic to prevent becoming food. RR
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161446 - 11/19/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: how can polyfil be cheaper and more efficient than a $0.99 SFD that can
be reused thousands of times and filters down to .3 microns???????
It might not be cheaper in the long run, but initially it is cheaper.
$3 for a huge ass 32 ounce bag that will last about 500 jars.......
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Edited by PussyFart (11/19/13 07:24 PM)
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161448 - 11/19/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: poly and sfd's can't even be closely compared to each other u def have no idea what your saying. Or how small contams really are.
Do you?
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69] 1
#19161534 - 11/19/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: how can polyfil be cheaper and more efficient than a $0.99 SFD that can
be reused thousands of times and filters down to .3 microns???????
Please copy the part of my reply that said it was CHEAPER AND MORE EFFICIENT. I did not say that, I said it was cheap for me. I can buy a bag of polyfill for 2$ and have enough for 100s of jars. It is also reusable. Quick wash with soapy water around the rim and finish it off with iso. The PC will take care of the rest and since I already have polyfill for tubs I do not need to waste the $ on SFD's.
Again it is what is convenient for YOUR situation. But don't say that using polyfill is going to result in a 60%-70% success rate. Thats just crazy
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Shroomery needs a place where we can take people who disagree with us out back and beat their asses. 
C'mon guys, RR
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19161588 - 11/19/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Shroomery needs a place where we can take people who disagree with us out back and beat their asses. 
C'mon guys, RR
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19161599 - 11/19/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Shroomery needs a place where we can take people who disagree with us out back and beat their asses. 
C'mon guys, RR

trying to stay on the good side lol
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: Rubestoad]
#19161680 - 11/19/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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poly fill can't even keep out fruit flys
There is no way in hell it works as good as a
.3 micron SFD every time.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161693 - 11/19/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: poly fill can't even keep out fruit flys
There is no way in hell it works as good as a
.3 micron SFD every time.
I dont know if this is true, but there are people who live by shredded polyester fibers...
Gimmi a sec, i'll update this post with what I just bought going to give them a try.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19161799 - 11/19/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm done with this stupid thread anyhow.
I'm just glad I learned when this site gave away correct info
instead of "can" work or "works most the time" info like this.
I get %99.99 success rates and I try to share how it works. I don't
care if you all think I'm wrong. Ive used those other materials and had
loads of problems so I'm speaking from experience not bullshit. Hacker doesn't
use poly or felt cause its inferior, same for TL, frank, and RR I don't
understand now why different info is being told.... w/e my shit works perfectly
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69] 1
#19161914 - 11/19/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: Hacker doesn't use poly or felt cause its inferior
It is not inferior, it works just fine, and I have used polyfill as filter material with 99-100% success, so have a lot of other people...this has already been said.
Stop trolling. You were wrong....deal with it.
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Re: Surgical Face Mask instead of SFD? [Re: rumfor69]
#19161939 - 11/19/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I remember a time when the Poor Mans Pod was highly advised,
and that It was the best around. Times change, materials change.

This is called EcoFelt, EcoFi, FriendlyFelt, amongst many other names.
It can be used in place of SFD's and can be PC'ed many times before degradation becomes a factor.
I picked up three sheets for five dollars today at a fabric store. I should've gotton all white, I dont know what I was thinking.

$1+/- for thirty, fourty, fifty SFD replacements depending on the size you choose to cut out.
It is highly cost effective for the frugal, and has proven to work very well. It is not true felt, this is a polyester fibre smashed together, same thing as Polyfil, or the stuffing you pull from your pillows to filter contams from grain jars. If it can protect sterile grain from contams in a fluffy state, why not in a flat-mash paper style?
You be the judge.
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