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6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits
    #19158837 - 11/19/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

source.

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The use of illegal drugs for medicinal reasons is a controversial topic, even as more states and jurisdictions allow the use of medical marijuana and other substances every year.

And self-medicating — using drugs without the assistance of a doctor or other medical professional — can be dangerous. "Potential risks of self-medication practices include incorrect self-diagnosis, delays in seeking medical advice … incorrect dosage, incorrect choice of therapy, masking of a severe disease, and risk of dependence and abuse," wrote the authors of a 2010 article published in the journal Current Drug Safety.

Because of these risks, doctors strongly advise against the unregulated use of illicit drugs, which can do more harm than good. Nonetheless, medical researchers continue to find a surprising number of health benefits in drugs widely used for recreational purposes.

Magic Mushrooms: Mushrooms containing psilocybin produce colorful hallucinations, even when consumed in small quantities. There's also some evidence that small amounts of psilocybin can relieve the symptoms of cluster headaches, obsessive-compulsive disorder and depression.

Research published in the British Journal of Psychiatry in 2012 found that volunteers taking psilocybin had enhanced recall, making the substance an effective adjunct to psychotherapy. Another 2012 study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, found that the drug slowed activity in the centers of the brain that are hyperactive in people with depression.

"We're not saying go out there and eat magic mushrooms," Robin Carhart Harris, lead author of both studies, told Reuters. "But ... this drug has such a fundamental impact on the brain that it's got to be meaningful. It's got to be telling us something about how the brain works. So we should be studying it and optimizing it if there's a therapeutic benefit."

Ecstasy: Also known as MDMA, ecstasy is a synthetic compound that produces hallucinations, feelings of emotional warmth and high levels of energy. The same psychoactive properties that make ecstasy so popular with partygoers may also make it useful in treating post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD.

Other research has found that ecstasy has robust anticancer properties, particularly for leukemia, lymphoma and myeloma. In 2011, researchers from the University of Birmingham found that a slightly modified form of ecstasy was 100 times more potent at destroying cancer cells than the original form of MDMA. "Further work is required, but this research is a significant step forward in developing a potential new cancer drug," the researchers said in a statement.

Cocaine: Leaves of the coca plant (Erythroxylum coca) have been used as a stimulant in South America for thousands of years. The drug derived from coca, cocaine — popularly known as coke, blow or Bolivian marching powder — has been credited with a range of health benefits.

Cocaine can be used as a topical anesthetic for surgical procedures due to its rapid-acting numbing properties. When combined with other compounds into a preparation called TAC, cocaine can also treat minor skin lacerations, since the drug is an effective vasoconstrictor (narrows blood vessels).

Dr. Andrew Weil, founder and director of the Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine, has studied coca's gastrointestinal effects among South American communities. "If you look carefully at the coca leaf's molecular array, you find 14 bioactive alkaloids … while cocaine acts as a gut stimulant, other coca alkaloids can have precisely the opposite action. They inhibit gut activity," Weil wrote in the Huffington Post.

"During my time in Andean Indian communities, I collected many reports about whole coca's paradoxical, normalizing effect on bowel function, and experienced it firsthand, as well," he wrote.

LSD: Lysergic acid diethylamide, usually known as LSD or acid, is a hallucinogen that's been widely used for decades, but recent research finds it has some potential for treating alcoholism. A study from Norway, published in 2012 in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, suggests that LSD prevented alcoholics from relapsing during treatment.

"LSD worked in an entirely different way than any current psychiatric drugs," said study author Teri Krebs of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology. "Many patients said they had gained a new appreciation for their alcohol problem and new motivation to address it."

Ketamine: Also called "Special K," this animal tranquilizer is sometimes used as a recreational drug by attendees at dance raves and other events. The drug may also effectively combat the symptoms of depression.

A 2012 study from the journal Science found that ketamine may help stimulate the growth of synapses in the brain, and beneficial effects of the drug on people with chronic depression can occur within hours. "The rapid therapeutic response of ketamine in treatment-resistant patients is the biggest breakthrough in depression research in a half century," Ronald Duman, professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at Yale University, said in a statement.

Marijuana: Pot, in addition to being the most widely used illicit drug in the United States, has a raft of medical benefits. According to NORML (a marijuana advocacy group), 21 states and the District of Columbia allow some use of medical marijuana.

The drug has been shown through years of scientific research to relieve chronic pain, prevent PTSD, stimulate appetite for people with AIDS wasting syndrome, control nausea, relieve intra-ocular pressure associated with glaucoma, treat opioid dependence and improve the symptoms of Crohn's disease.




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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: trampis]
    #19158854 - 11/19/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i enjoy all six of those listed, but this article is dumb...


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Not Responding]
    #19158887 - 11/19/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i thought it was a nice article


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19158958 - 11/19/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I thought two of those were "party drugs." :facepalm:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Futuresight]
    #19158970 - 11/19/13 10:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ive been on each individual drug listed at least once in my life while at a party

if they listed shit like salvia, dph or such i might get a little bit :aweshit:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1] * 1
    #19159424 - 11/19/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: vandago]
    #19159653 - 11/19/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:





:smile: Agreed

Funny read


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19160103 - 11/19/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like while most of those drugs could be considered a party drug, mushrooms are not really a party drug. Of course you could do them at a party, but that is not the best setting for mushrooms.

And marijuana is just your common household intoxicant and people smoke that everywhere be it at a a party or not.

I feel like the party drugs in this article are K, moll, and coke . .

I do not really do any of those, I do LSD or mescaline, but when I go to parties I would say that 80%-90% of people are sniffing lines of one of those three, or a combo of all of them . . . And then they wash it all down with plenty of alcohol . . . So therapeutic


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19160360 - 11/19/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

3000 unintentional deaths normally from prescribed
15,000 from illegal

some years tho that prescribed will jump to like 10-30,000

still these drugs fall under the criteria

i think coke is schedule two

why not weed and mushrooms?


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #19160477 - 11/19/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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why not weed and mushrooms?





Because they are evil


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19160482 - 11/19/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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why not weed and mushrooms?





Because they are evil






And the government cannot make as much money on them as the other more addictive drugs . . .


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19161402 - 11/19/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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why not weed and mushrooms?



Hey now, we don't want people to start thinking do we? Then they start asking questions. Keep em numb on antidepressants and booze while they sit in front of their TV ignoring everything going on around them. Then we can put them on pedestals as good law abiding people while we continue to persecute those with the audacity to think for themselves. Leaves the door wide open to continue to pillage everything and everyone with little resistance :awesomenod:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19161508 - 11/19/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

LOL at cocaine HCl having health benefits


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: mr sniffles]
    #19161544 - 11/19/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen groups of people nodding out from opiates at parties so I guess any drug could be considered a party drug. Or they just didn't know how to party. :shrug:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: D.M.T]
    #19162804 - 11/19/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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LOL at cocaine HCl having health benefits



:facepalm: one sided thinking...

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D.M.T said:
I've seen groups of people nodding out from opiates at parties so I guess any drug could be considered a party drug. Or they just didn't know how to party. :shrug:



I went to one party on painkillers(dullers, realistically, dissociatives are painkillers)
And it was the worst idea ever, so into myself, I should've just stayed home.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19162945 - 11/19/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel like while most of those drugs could be considered a party drug, mushrooms are not really a party drug. Of course you could do them at a party, but that is not the best setting for mushrooms.

And marijuana is just your common household intoxicant and people smoke that everywhere be it at a a party or not.

I feel like the party drugs in this article are K, moll, and coke . .

I do not really do any of those, I do LSD or mescaline, but when I go to parties I would say that 80%-90% of people are sniffing lines of one of those three, or a combo of all of them . . . And then they wash it all down with plenty of alcohol . . . So therapeutic




I do all those drugs and I would and have done all of them at parties, quite a bit of mushrooms actually. I don't know what kind of parties you go to but occasionally I find myself at parties where more people are tripping thank drunk.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Everything]
    #19163061 - 11/20/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Everything said:
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LiquidGlass said:
I feel like while most of those drugs could be considered a party drug, mushrooms are not really a party drug. Of course you could do them at a party, but that is not the best setting for mushrooms.

And marijuana is just your common household intoxicant and people smoke that everywhere be it at a a party or not.

I feel like the party drugs in this article are K, moll, and coke . .

I do not really do any of those, I do LSD or mescaline, but when I go to parties I would say that 80%-90% of people are sniffing lines of one of those three, or a combo of all of them . . . And then they wash it all down with plenty of alcohol . . . So therapeutic




I do all those drugs and I would and have done all of them at parties, quite a bit of mushrooms actually. I don't know what kind of parties you go to but occasionally I find myself at parties where more people are tripping thank drunk.




I go to house parties, 3 low profile parties out in the woods, electronic shows, electronic festivals, burning man . . .

A lot of these places people are not real conspicuous about drug use and just break it out right on the dance floor or wherever they may be. And I have observed a significantly greater amount of people doing powdered drugs and drinking rather than LSD or mushrooms.


I have been at a spot here and there where there seemed to be a lot of LSD flowing but still tons of molly and alcohol up in the mix.


The only parties I have ever been to that had more psychedelics were the hippie jam band fests or string cheese shows


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: trampis]
    #19165117 - 11/20/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Not really sure how ketamine could be seriously considered as a long, or even medium term "cure" or treatment for depression.. How do they balance the complete destruction of the urinary tract against alleged reports of relief from depression?

:popcorn:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19165309 - 11/20/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

that's only if you overdose on it like a addict


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19165422 - 11/20/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I don't really understand why people do a bunch of ketamine at parties but I guess if face planting on the dance floor is your idea of a good time then power to you lol. :goat:


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    #19166073 - 11/20/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

low doses are pretty stimulating


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166303 - 11/20/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166338 - 11/20/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A 2012 study from the journal Science found that ketamine may help stimulate the growth of synapses in the brain, and beneficial effects of the drug on people with chronic depression can occur within hours. "The rapid therapeutic response of ketamine in treatment-resistant patients is the biggest breakthrough in depression research in a half century," Ronald Duman, professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at Yale University, said in a statement.




so if you can't take it long term then this suffices


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166344 - 11/20/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i mean ciggerettes narrow your arteries with every pull
are you saying the same can be said for K and piss tracts?


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166365 - 11/20/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A 2012 study from the journal Science found that ketamine may help stimulate the growth of synapses in the brain, and beneficial effects of the drug on people with chronic depression can occur within hours. "The rapid therapeutic response of ketamine in treatment-resistant patients is the biggest breakthrough in depression research in a half century," Ronald Duman, professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at Yale University, said in a statement.




so if you can't take it long term then this suffices



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i mean ciggerettes narrow your arteries with every pull
are you saying the same can be said for K and piss tracts?





Many things take effect withing hours.. their course of duration is an entirely different kettle of fish.

Ketamine DESTROYS the urinary tract in an irreversible manner,and rapidly, do some reading, not bad mouthing drugs for the fun of it.

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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166414 - 11/20/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One major thing the author of this article missed:
Psilocybbin has been proven to be able to create NEW brain cells.
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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166697 - 11/20/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.





i dont know anything about ut really but to quote you and ask some questions


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Give it another few months/years of recreational use




emphasis on recreational dose, i would imagine for the depression related issues, the dose would be threshold, if that

would that still cause problems?


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19166724 - 11/20/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i just found this, before 2000, urinary problems have never been reported

weird shit
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_article2.shtml


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19166770 - 11/20/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ketamine at reasonable dosages isn't dangerous. Long-term use at regular doses might not be very good but it'd take quite some time to have adverse effects. Long-term use of anything as an antidepressant is not good, IMO.


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    #19167817 - 11/20/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:



Nah bro you should only be using LSD for meditation at a Buddhist temple under guidance of a levitating Indian guru to explore your soul chakras as they meld with the universe. Also its bad karma to charge for LSD since it's enlightenment in a tab and is showing you THE TRUEST TRUTH MAN. The truth that's truer than all the other truths.

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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: trampis]
    #19167953 - 11/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ya know what's really interesting to me? MDMA and some similar analogue having anti-cancer properties, like who the hell woulda guessed that?

MDMA is notorious for it's often over-the-top side effect profile compared to other drugs I'd think it anything it'd be cancerous, maybe it is in other ways


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Sheekle]
    #19167971 - 11/20/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

some of the impurities found in MDMA from lack of recrystallization are believed to be carcinogens though


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: D.M.T]
    #19168081 - 11/20/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Drugs have their conductive rules.  schedual and typicals uses. Yya get busted smoking qeed slippin. coke slipin meth trippin. using for self medding won't get you caught less you doit.to


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #19168393 - 11/21/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:



Nah bro you should only be using LSD for meditation at a Buddhist temple under guidance of a levitating Indian guru to explore your soul chakras as they meld with the universe. Also its bad karma to charge for LSD since it's enlightenment in a tab and is showing you THE TRUEST TRUTH MAN. The truth that's truer than all the other truths.

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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19168859 - 11/21/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

surprised to see cocaine on that list, outside of a great topical anesthetic.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19168886 - 11/21/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.





i dont know anything about ut really but to quote you and ask some questions


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Give it another few months/years of recreational use




emphasis on recreational dose, i would imagine for the depression related issues, the dose would be threshold, if that

would that still cause problems?




I don't think there is definitive answer to the amount of time or Ketamine it takes to cause damage that cannot be reversed. I know at least 30 people who are or were (before they died) hopelessly addicted to Ketamine.

Even using once a week (probably more as most people are gonna do a few lines every time they buy a gram etc) you are going to be taking a drug known to cause the destruction of the bladder over 50 times a year, probably closer to a couple of hundred or more depending how "recreational" the usage is.

Many of the people I know ended up hooked as they did suffer from depression and found it alleviates it. It is a very slippery slope and for many years was seen as a fun "party drug". Perhaps it took a few years for people to make the link between K abuse and bladder failure, I can't imagine no one knew about the negative side effects before 2000.. A few years back I knew more people taking K regularly than coke/MDMA or anything else excluding pot/alcohol.


Using K every few months probably isn't going to cause permanent damage, but it the most destructive drug, physically and mentally that I have ever encountered. I am a heroin addict too, so I know my fair share of drug and poly-drug abusers.

I have posted similar sentiments a lot on this site and ended up getting grief from happy K-heads who didn't want to hear, so I have kept my thoughts on the subject to myself as much as possible for the last couple of years. I could tell one horror story after another, but the evidence is out there and I think I have made my point. Go easy on that shit guys and gals, not to be taken lightly. :peace:


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