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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: fuzzywuzzy19]
    #19166073 - 11/20/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

low doses are pretty stimulating


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166303 - 11/20/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166338 - 11/20/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A 2012 study from the journal Science found that ketamine may help stimulate the growth of synapses in the brain, and beneficial effects of the drug on people with chronic depression can occur within hours. "The rapid therapeutic response of ketamine in treatment-resistant patients is the biggest breakthrough in depression research in a half century," Ronald Duman, professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at Yale University, said in a statement.




so if you can't take it long term then this suffices


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166344 - 11/20/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i mean ciggerettes narrow your arteries with every pull
are you saying the same can be said for K and piss tracts?


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Konyap]
    #19166365 - 11/20/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A 2012 study from the journal Science found that ketamine may help stimulate the growth of synapses in the brain, and beneficial effects of the drug on people with chronic depression can occur within hours. "The rapid therapeutic response of ketamine in treatment-resistant patients is the biggest breakthrough in depression research in a half century," Ronald Duman, professor of psychiatry and neurobiology at Yale University, said in a statement.




so if you can't take it long term then this suffices



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i mean ciggerettes narrow your arteries with every pull
are you saying the same can be said for K and piss tracts?





Many things take effect withing hours.. their course of duration is an entirely different kettle of fish.

Ketamine DESTROYS the urinary tract in an irreversible manner,and rapidly, do some reading, not bad mouthing drugs for the fun of it.

:popcorn: :shrug:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166414 - 11/20/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

One major thing the author of this article missed:
Psilocybbin has been proven to be able to create NEW brain cells.
:themoreyouknow:


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: egodeathflux]
    #19166697 - 11/20/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.





i dont know anything about ut really but to quote you and ask some questions


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Give it another few months/years of recreational use




emphasis on recreational dose, i would imagine for the depression related issues, the dose would be threshold, if that

would that still cause problems?


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19166724 - 11/20/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i just found this, before 2000, urinary problems have never been reported

weird shit
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_article2.shtml


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19166770 - 11/20/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ketamine at reasonable dosages isn't dangerous. Long-term use at regular doses might not be very good but it'd take quite some time to have adverse effects. Long-term use of anything as an antidepressant is not good, IMO.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: vandago] * 1
    #19167817 - 11/20/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:



Nah bro you should only be using LSD for meditation at a Buddhist temple under guidance of a levitating Indian guru to explore your soul chakras as they meld with the universe. Also its bad karma to charge for LSD since it's enlightenment in a tab and is showing you THE TRUEST TRUTH MAN. The truth that's truer than all the other truths.

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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: trampis]
    #19167953 - 11/20/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ya know what's really interesting to me? MDMA and some similar analogue having anti-cancer properties, like who the hell woulda guessed that?

MDMA is notorious for it's often over-the-top side effect profile compared to other drugs I'd think it anything it'd be cancerous, maybe it is in other ways


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: Sheekle]
    #19167971 - 11/20/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

some of the impurities found in MDMA from lack of recrystallization are believed to be carcinogens though


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: D.M.T]
    #19168081 - 11/20/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Drugs have their conductive rules.  schedual and typicals uses. Yya get busted smoking qeed slippin. coke slipin meth trippin. using for self medding won't get you caught less you doit.to


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #19168393 - 11/21/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
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vandago said:
Those can all most definitely be party drugs.  People and their semantics :facepalm:



Nah bro you should only be using LSD for meditation at a Buddhist temple under guidance of a levitating Indian guru to explore your soul chakras as they meld with the universe. Also its bad karma to charge for LSD since it's enlightenment in a tab and is showing you THE TRUEST TRUTH MAN. The truth that's truer than all the other truths.

:mindblown:





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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19168859 - 11/21/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

surprised to see cocaine on that list, outside of a great topical anesthetic.


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Re: 6 Party Drugs That May Have Health Benefits [Re: hidenseek1]
    #19168886 - 11/21/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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hidenseek1 said:
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egodeathflux said:
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Illyabo said:
that's only if you overdose on it like a addict




No... it's if you take it daily/weekly etc for more than 6-9months. I know a multitude of "cool" hippy folk who piss themselves in public regularly.


Give it another few months/years of recreational use and then come see if your ignorance can regenerate your urinal tract..

Good luck with that.





i dont know anything about ut really but to quote you and ask some questions


Quote:

Give it another few months/years of recreational use




emphasis on recreational dose, i would imagine for the depression related issues, the dose would be threshold, if that

would that still cause problems?




I don't think there is definitive answer to the amount of time or Ketamine it takes to cause damage that cannot be reversed. I know at least 30 people who are or were (before they died) hopelessly addicted to Ketamine.

Even using once a week (probably more as most people are gonna do a few lines every time they buy a gram etc) you are going to be taking a drug known to cause the destruction of the bladder over 50 times a year, probably closer to a couple of hundred or more depending how "recreational" the usage is.

Many of the people I know ended up hooked as they did suffer from depression and found it alleviates it. It is a very slippery slope and for many years was seen as a fun "party drug". Perhaps it took a few years for people to make the link between K abuse and bladder failure, I can't imagine no one knew about the negative side effects before 2000.. A few years back I knew more people taking K regularly than coke/MDMA or anything else excluding pot/alcohol.


Using K every few months probably isn't going to cause permanent damage, but it the most destructive drug, physically and mentally that I have ever encountered. I am a heroin addict too, so I know my fair share of drug and poly-drug abusers.

I have posted similar sentiments a lot on this site and ended up getting grief from happy K-heads who didn't want to hear, so I have kept my thoughts on the subject to myself as much as possible for the last couple of years. I could tell one horror story after another, but the evidence is out there and I think I have made my point. Go easy on that shit guys and gals, not to be taken lightly. :peace:


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