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sytar
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19160393 - 11/19/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fill bucket inside sterilizing chamber with pasteurized substrate. Seal and put in machine again to sterilize anything that may have tried to get at my fun little guys.
If you put your colonized spawn and pasteurized substrate into a "sterilizer machine" you will, first, no longer have a pasteurized substrate. You will have a sterilized substrate and this is bad, more prone to contams. Second, you will have killed all the live mycelium on your spawn. You will definitely be growing a bucket of mold.
People here, especially NAH have been very patient with you and tried to help. You need to treat NAH with more respect. He answers every UTFSE newbs' questions around here without giving any attitude. He helps stubborn fools who can't listen to good advice (like you) without being a dick about it when he would be perfectly justified in doing so. He knows what he is talking about. He wasn't in some ego competition with you, he was trying to help you despite you ego tripping all over him. He is like a mycogod compared to you; it wouldn't even make sense to get in a PE measuring contest. Not trying to be harsh but damn man you need to learn some humility and listen to people who know way more who are trying to help. I'm not one of those but NAH sure is.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19160417 - 11/19/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry OP I not trying to be a parrot. But your not listening. Everything aside, your sterilized bucket, your plethora of restaurant equipment, the untested sub you wish to use, none of it matters. You can't grow on it without clean, fully colonized spawn. Without spawn there is simply not enough nutes or inoculation points to colonize the sub before contams set in. Without that there is no way you are going to grow anything, and I don't care if it's sterilized, pasteurized, or sodomized. By the logic of your experiment, I could sterilize my shoes, inject spores and grow mushies. Sorry it does not work that way. Fact is;
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Pastywhyte said: Sterilized sub will not colonize without grain spawn. There is not enough nutes in most subs to colonize effectively without grain spawn.
Until you figure that out, your experiment is worthless.
Edited by Pastywhyte (11/19/13 06:03 PM)
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Sgt. Pepper


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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: TheReckoning]
#19160466 - 11/19/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I respect your attitude and your desire to experiment, but you have some reading to do. If you want to do a monobucket, then there are teks on these forums that cover it pretty well. I like your enginuity with the dishwasher, but 200 degrees will PARTIALLY sterilize any bulk substrate which is a no go. Follow the time tested teks for a couple months and if you still want to do this, then by all means do it. Of course I can't stop you, but I can try to help you. Do what you will, but remember that the people here have years of growing experience and they only want to help you.
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Adustus
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19160629 - 11/19/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I respect your attitude and your desire to experiment, but you have some reading to do. If you want to do a monobucket, then there are teks on these forums that cover it pretty well. I like your enginuity with the dishwasher, but 200 degrees will PARTIALLY sterilize any bulk substrate which is a no go. Follow the time tested teks for a couple months and if you still want to do this, then by all means do it. Of course I can't stop you, but I can try to help you. Do what you will, but remember that the people here have years of growing experience and they only want to help you.
I understand people wanna help. Things that dont help me are spewing common sense at me over and over like Im some retard. Not to mention that People expect me to penny up for a sample for my own inoculation. Instead of just paying to send a print back. Am I supposed to rape everyone's pockets who asks for help as well? I asked for help getting a start with growing. Build off the community to help the community grow more. And for some info on whether or not a tek would work. I got called a newbie six ways to sunday while all these people (aside from the few sincere people being helpful) sit here and say the same thing over and over and over. Clearly people dont understand that the bucket tek I was shown is like a more primitive version of what I wanted to do except with matte. So maybe everyone doesnt get what Im saying. It doesnt mean Im stupid. Maybe your stupid. Maybe we both are. Maybe we both dont understand what the fuck were even trying to talk about. But to have a community just talk down to me about my ideas because they can't make sense of them. And to tell me I'm a jobless fuck when I'm asking for a freebie so I can give back because I dont like exchanging money. I dont fuck with this stupid monkey man illusion of value in a green rectangle of paper. I make enough money to pay my rent and my car. Just enough to where Im catching up at the end of each week. So because the economy is shit and I dont wanna support this fucking insanity that is global economy. And wanna do stuff like communities traditionally do. Like I live. Like I was raised. So because I can't bring myself to such a low standard to where Ill torture anyone who wants help for 68 cents. That sets me apart from anyone else here?
Tell you what if it does. The only thing that separates us is a long long gap of humanity. I can help a human even with normal life things. Like mycology. And it's not even a big deal if I get shit back. But when the whole community operates like this.
Fucking sick man. Sick. And not the guy im replying to. He wasnt bad. but for you guys who support the way you behave like this. You should feel really fucking disgusting. Like worse than any bucket cluster fuck I may be too stupid to understand would ever come out.
Go get one from the store, go get one from the wild. In a city in the winter in the stores im trying to fill with the mushrooms Id have to buy to get my own culture.
And now Ive come full circle this entire spectrum of ass backwards logic.
I'll go find a new passion. The mushroom culture is full of greedy dickheads. My friend made this site sound like the happiest place on earth. But its fucking terrible. Just terrible. I thought itd be friends and spreading spores all over the world. But it's just another money hungry monster like everything else. Sick.
Sorry I caused such a disruption within your community. Good day all. And may your desires be brought to life.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19160705 - 11/19/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JohnnieYen said: This guy uses 5 gallon buckets with success
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18892960/fpart/1/vc/1
So I show you a successful bucket grow with minimal materials and you go off and say I have no mental capacity.
No one called you an idiot or noob, we were just trying to save you some time.
Do you know how many posters come here with their innovative revolutionary teks? we are here to help and show why things don't work. Why not do both ways and PROVE to us that your way works before spouting off.
And don't expect people to provide you with spores with your shitty attitude.
I would have sent you a couple prints if you acted with a little more tact.
But instead you get a zero rating.
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Adustus]
#19160715 - 11/19/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who the fuck is talking about exchanging money, lolwut? Did I miss something?
It's funny how you give up so easily. People were genuinely trying to help, while others liked to have a laugh. Handle your criticism better in life or you won't get anywhere.
Also, this is the happiest place on the earth, but most don't have time for egocentric ignorance. Good day!
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Adustus
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: JohnnieYen]
#19160748 - 11/19/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JohnnieYen said:
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JohnnieYen said: This guy uses 5 gallon buckets with success
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18892960/fpart/1/vc/1
So I show you a successful bucket grow with minimal materials and you go off and say I have no mental capacity.
No one called you an idiot or noob, we were just trying to save you some time.
Do you know how many posters come here with their innovative revolutionary teks? we are here to help and show why things don't work. Why not do both ways and PROVE to us that your way works before spouting off.
And don't expect people to provide you with spores with your shitty attitude.
I would have sent you a couple prints if you acted with a little more tact.
But instead you get a zero rating.
Your totally right. Im being a total dick and a whiney little cuss. And nobody here deserves that. Im sorry guys. Just between the shit im coming down from and not sleeping for a few days straight im probably just being a total and complete douchebag.
Nobody here deserves that kind of treatment and I do apologize. When I get more normal youll be able to tell. And If I can do anything within my means to right the wrong Ive committed then please let me know.
If anyone would be kind enough to help out that would be great. I'd return the favor anyway I can. If not thats fine It wouldnt suprise me. I just came off like a total needy little prick whos entitled to something I prolly dont know all that much about as it is. Ill post up how the tek goes.
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Adustus
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: TheReckoning]
#19160754 - 11/19/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheReckoning said:

Who the fuck is talking about exchanging money, lolwut? Did I miss something?
It's funny how you give up so easily. People were genuinely trying to help, while others liked to have a laugh. Handle your criticism better in life or you won't get anywhere.
Also, this is the happiest place on the earth, but most don't have time for egocentric ignorance. Good day!

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PussyFart
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Adustus]
#19160758 - 11/19/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT! A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD, SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List, EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE *** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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Sgt. Pepper


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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: TheReckoning]
#19160791 - 11/19/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sorry these forums came off like that to you. I have learned everything I know here and the people have always been very helpful with me. I promise you none of us meant to offend, it really is a welcoming community if you take the time to read a tek or two before you post. Don't give up on mycology yet, there is a wealth of knowledge to be learned before you can even pull of a simple brf cake, yet alone make your own innovative, game changing tek. So again, I implore you to go out and do a couple grows following the tek to the t, and then if you still want to, do your matte bucket thing. I guarantee you will tweak your method over the next couple months if you spend that time growing and researching. Dismissing mycology over one thread on a mushroom growing forum is a little ridiculous, and I really hope you don't give up. Again, I have a lot of respect for those who want to innovate, and you clearly do, but if you're gonna do something, you might as well do it right.
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Adustus
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19160847 - 11/19/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: I'm sorry these forums came off like that to you. I have learned everything I know here and the people have always been very helpful with me. I promise you none of us meant to offend, it really is a welcoming community if you take the time to read a tek or two before you post. Don't give up on mycology yet, there is a wealth of knowledge to be learned before you can even pull of a simple brf cake, yet alone make your own innovative, game changing tek. So again, I implore you to go out and do a couple grows following the tek to the t, and then if you still want to, do your matte bucket thing. I guarantee you will tweak your method over the next couple months if you spend that time growing and researching. Dismissing mycology over one thread on a mushroom growing forum is a little ridiculous, and I really hope you don't give up. Again, I have a lot of respect for those who want to innovate, and you clearly do, but if you're gonna do something, you might as well do it right.
Very true my friend. Why put effort into something if its just to do it wrong. I wont bail on mycology. Its just the Khat. I dont usually fuck with it cause it keeps me up for days and makes me an asshole. But no excuses. I intend to spend my time on these forums being more pleasant and helpful and being more open to the help of those who have been doing this far longer than I.
Thank you for being so patient with me despite my shortcomings. That was an unforgivable outburst of outright disrespect for the community. And nobody deserves that.
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Sgt. Pepper


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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Adustus]
#19160956 - 11/19/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can tell you that are overall a very good person and you had a moment of anger is all, but you apologized and that's more than most people would do. Don't worry about it, mycology is an amazing hobby and I'm sure you will find lots of enjoyment in it.
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Adustus
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Re: Wondering if anyones ever grown with matte? [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19163175 - 11/20/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah man I'm on my way.
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