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how much substrate do I need?
    #19155656 - 11/18/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just got done doing some small trays, now I am wanting to up my sub weight and move up to a monotub. I plan to use a 66 quart mono, such as tub. I am going to order this substrate. I have 4 quarts of spawn to use and would like to know if I should order the 10lb bag or the 15lb bag in order to get around 4 inch sub depth.


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: smanbulldog]
    #19155811 - 11/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think since you're doing 4 qts sub you'll be needing 12 qts spawn

Which is a good 1:4 ratio.


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19155823 - 11/18/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Can I ask why you're not just going to pasturize your own sub?

Its pretty simple, head over to a hydro shop or garden center
and pick up Coir Bricks and Vermiculite - Use a betty crocker roaster
+ meat/candy thermometer and you'll be done in a few hours.


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19155827 - 11/18/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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JMcDoogle said:
I think since you're doing 4 qts sub you'll be needing 12 qts spawn

Which is a good 1:4 ratio.




12 qts. of spawn to knock up only 4 qts. of sub? Sure you don't have that backwards?


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: Darph_Bobo]
    #19155834 - 11/18/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Darph_Bobo said:
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JMcDoogle said:
I think since you're doing 4 qts sub you'll be needing 12 qts spawn

Which is a good 1:4 ratio.




12 qts. of spawn to knock up only 4 qts. of sub? Sure you don't have that backwards?




:smbfacepalm:

Yep, Backwards.

4 Quarts of Spawn to 12 Quarts of Sub.

Which is also 1:3

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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19155854 - 11/18/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Excuses.....


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: PussyFart]
    #19155867 - 11/18/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19155893 - 11/18/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19157826 - 11/19/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I mean I have a really nice pressure cooker bought specifically for cultivation. Will coir bricks work as well as poo?


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19157827 - 11/19/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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blueconfusion said:
http://substratecalculator.info/
this works great!!!



awesome!!


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: smanbulldog]
    #19157840 - 11/19/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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blueconfusion said:
http://substratecalculator.info/
this works great!!!



awesome!!



It says that for a 66qt mono, I will need 17-20 quarts of sub and 3.5-5 quarts of spawn. So would that be 1 quart sub= 1 lb sub?


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: smanbulldog]
    #19157855 - 11/19/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No for a 66qt tub you want about 10 qts of sub and about 6 qts of spawn


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: smanbulldog]
    #19158130 - 11/19/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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smanbulldog said:
I mean I have a really nice pressure cooker bought specifically for cultivation. Will coir bricks work as well as poo?



I like using coir hpoo verm and gypsum, works amazing every time and be sure to pastuerize not sterilize with your pc


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: Stromrider]
    #19158355 - 11/19/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No for a 66qt tub you want about 10 qts of sub and about 6 qts of spawn




What he said. But since you only have 4 Qts of Spawn add
another 2 quarts of sub.


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19158397 - 11/19/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Stromrider said:
No for a 66qt tub you want about 10 qts of sub and about 6 qts of spawn




What he said. But since you only have 4 Qts of Spawn add
another 2 quarts of sub.




I wouldn't add any more sub. 4 qts of spawn to a brick and 2 qts verm should suffice


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Re: how much substrate do I need? [Re: Stromrider]
    #19158459 - 11/19/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you want a deeper layer of sub/spawn it will create larger yields, though take longer to colonize right?

No matter what 6 quarts of Spawn and 10 Quarts of Sub = 16 Quarts

So 4 Quarts of Spawn and 12 Quarts of Sub = 16 Quarts as well.

In a 66 Quart Container, this is about 4 inches right?

Either way its still 1:3 which is a high enough ratio of sub/spawn.

Im not disagreeing with Strom or saying hes wrong, but I would take
a longer colonization that yields greater than a lower sub/spawn ratio
that doesent yield as much and contains less moisture.


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