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shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively
    #19157366 - 11/18/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I find it extremely difficult to study effictively. The moment I start doing school work, the focus required to get it done properly seems to require so much effort. I can't stand it. It just upsets me too much. I have a crazy urge to check shroomery, my phone, fap, play ps3, listen to a song, etc because the studying feels so mundane in comparison. Its pretty much impossible for me to study more than one hour in a single sitting without satisfyig one of those urges for a tiny bit.


Do I sound like I should get tested for ADHD? Its pissing me off  how I challenging of a task studying is. I used to be a semi heavy cgarette smoker for over a year and the withdrawal of going cold turkey after that was easier to bear than a week of studying for me.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19157570 - 11/18/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i have similar problems, i've found the best way is to just push myself. sometimes it's boring as shit and my mind starts to wonder to other things, but i try to bring my attention back to the subject at hand. it's all discipline.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19157578 - 11/18/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Try to time how long on average it takes you to drift off into a daydream.  It's hard, because you often don't even realize when you've begun to daydream.  But find out how much time (1 minute, 3 minutes, etc.)

Then set a timer to go off constantly at that interval to wake you up from your daydream.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19157586 - 11/18/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I take amphetamines. Three years and it still works like a charm.

You know that's what they're prescribed for, right? :omgz:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19157602 - 11/18/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #19157608 - 11/18/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

using drugs is cheating :snub:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157624 - 11/18/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Legal Rx :smirk:


been on it since I was 6


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157653 - 11/18/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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using drugs is cheating :snub:




Not if you have ADHD.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: NWlight]
    #19157663 - 11/18/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

makes me wonder how many of those 'smart' kids at school were on them.. kinda wish i was too now.. :tongue:  no i dont. :tongue:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157670 - 11/18/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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makes me wonder how many of those 'smart' kids at school were on them.. kinda wish i was too now.. :tongue:  no i dont. :tongue:




Are you saying that people with ADHD are stupid? :crankey:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19157689 - 11/18/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

adhd my ass. i had the same symptoms of adhd during my school years, still do actually, but i never saw it as a sickness and shit. some of us just aren't made for school, we weren't made to sit still and do homework. some of us are meant to dream, meant to keep moving through that which is not us, I HAVE A DREAM, can u hear me!, hallelujah!


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: NWlight]
    #19157698 - 11/18/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Holy crap I have the same thing like no other... I hate stims though.

When I start studying I'll suddenly just find myself looking through the lines of text but not really reading them (never passed high school). You just have to be interested in what you're studying. I often go outside of my house to the local Starbucks and open up my textbook with a coffee. When I find myself drifting I just go back to the last place where I was actually paying attention and start from there, so I often re-read stuff.

I don't do this yet but I might study for 15 minutes, or however long, do some push-ups, and continue after.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157700 - 11/18/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Coffee, cigarettes, and electronic music.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157701 - 11/18/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, I'm a terminally uncreative person but reasonably intelligent so it seemed like the right choice for me. :nerd:

I'll admit that doing homework sucks though. :okay:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19157702 - 11/18/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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adhd my ass.





This.  Op the solution to your problem is to sack the fuck up and do it we all hate it but its a necessary evil.  Or dont do it and fail.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19158079 - 11/19/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have a supplier that still sells mdpv. As long as you don't resize more than 2 times and have ambien or a benzo at hand for the comedown. It's the PERFECT study aid, more so than any rx.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19158089 - 11/19/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have to go to school?

I mean are you that much of a weakling?

I'm sorry but if I was strong I would pursue a much different career.

Also highschool doesn't prepare you for college in the slightest

try studying in school


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19158243 - 11/19/13 04:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There's a simple solution:  Remove yourself from the situation.  Leave your phone at home and go to the library for 2-3 hours a day.  You won't have any distractions.  Always worked like a charm for me.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: TheMovement]
    #19158404 - 11/19/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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using drugs is cheating :snub:




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adhd my ass.





This.  Op the solution to your problem is to sack the fuck up and do it we all hate it but its a necessary evil.  Or dont do it and fail.





These and ... try doing your work elsewhere. Obviously trying to study in your room isn't working because your room is full of easy distractions


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: muirileD]
    #19158419 - 11/19/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

"Boo Hoo I don't like doing boring, mundane studying and would rather play video games - therefore I must need amphetamines!"

That's how it comes across. You sound like a child. It's school work: noone is excited to do it, its slow, boring, dense and sometimes ineffective at teaching. It is completely a normal response to be uninterested in studying.

BUT you've still been assigned it, and you sound like you are interested in doing somewhat well, so just fucking do it.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: muirileD]
    #19158467 - 11/19/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i dont study :frown: in my accounting class i have this program i sign into so before a big test i'll wake up extra early in the morning and my teacher puts like quizzes? study guides? idk what you'd call them on there but i just do those and i usually pass my tests.


i think thats called cramming and teachers say not to do but i gotta pass! classes cost too much skrilla to take :thumbdown:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #19158474 - 11/19/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ou pleaz tell me more about those things your cramming:sip:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Konyap]
    #19158500 - 11/19/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Make an effort to want to learn the material by being interested in it.

For me it's a combination of that and racemic alpha‑methylphenethylamine salts.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: kneesocks]
    #19158613 - 11/19/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Reading fiction books will increase your attention span tenfold. Once you get hooked to a book you never want to put it down which takes a conscious effort to concentrate more.

Ever since I have started reading fiction I have notice that I can concentrate like a laser beam for a much longer time than I could.

Try it

EDIT: Also, drink a tall glass of water before studying. Hydration has proven to increase pretty much every brain function, especially math skill and concentration. A very large percentage of the population are constantly dehydrated. You might be one of them


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Patlal]
    #19158684 - 11/19/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i generally study in total silence. i also give myself time to when i get distracted to where i can't continue i can stop. making yourself stare at the words on the page won't help you assimilate the information if you're not interested in doing what you're doing. but the more you do it, the longer you'll be able to focus. you'll want to study daily, even if it's just for a little bit. i try to stay neck and neck with the syllabus so at the end of the semester, like now, when i've had enough of being educated, it isn't as hard to stay caught up by doing it in larger chunks when i can. it also gets much easier to stay on task when you start taking classes that have material that interests you.

edit: i'll second patial's recommendation about reading fiction or anything that interests you. i usually have a couple of novels going and i follow various comics. i do most of my recreational reading before bed. when i'm not in school i'll read for 4+ hours a day.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19158688 - 11/19/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Amphetamines.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: robbyberto]
    #19158699 - 11/19/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Mdpv and daily ginkoba.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19158728 - 11/19/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Addiction to technology, we all have it to some regard.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: muirileD]
    #19158830 - 11/19/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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There's a simple solution:  Remove yourself from the situation.  Leave your phone at home and go to the library for 2-3 hours a day.  You won't have any distractions.  Always worked like a charm for me.




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"Boo Hoo I don't like doing boring, mundane studying and would rather play video games - therefore I must need amphetamines!"

That's how it comes across. You sound like a child. It's school work: noone is excited to do it, its slow, boring, dense and sometimes ineffective at teaching. It is completely a normal response to be uninterested in studying.

BUT you've still been assigned it, and you sound like you are interested in doing somewhat well, so just fucking do it.




i'd just read books on subjects that interest me instead. So instead of doing my basic math i'd end up reading chemistry books, a library is a HUGE distraction. so much books:sad:

I shouldve done amphetamines in school, it's not that i'm NOT interested, it's that I get a few hours of class and that would leave me with too many questions, so many thoughts thus i'd just immerse into something for hours and hours and hours on end without doing my schoolwork :lol:.

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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Beanhead]
    #19158846 - 11/19/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

amphs don't give you better scores

they just make kids with bad focus shut the fuck up for a second


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Konyap]
    #19158850 - 11/19/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

they only use them 5% of the time in france for comparison


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Konyap]
    #19158852 - 11/19/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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amphs don't give you better scores




No, they don't. I'm smart but I chronically procrastinate.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19158864 - 11/19/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I find it extremely difficult to study effictively. The moment I start doing school work, the focus required to get it done properly seems to require so much effort. I can't stand it. It just upsets me too much. I have a crazy urge to check shroomery, my phone, fap, play ps3, listen to a song, etc because the studying feels so mundane in comparison. Its pretty much impossible for me to study more than one hour in a single sitting without satisfyig one of those urges for a tiny bit.


Do I sound like I should get tested for ADHD? Its pissing me off  how I challenging of a task studying is. I used to be a semi heavy cgarette smoker for over a year and the withdrawal of going cold turkey after that was easier to bear than a week of studying for me.




OP, something that works well for me is to set a timer to break the work up into chunks. Which makes it seem a lot more manageable. Set a timer for 15-30 minutes (your choice) and stay focused the whole time. Just do it. Force yourself to not do anything other than work until your timer goes off. Then set a timer for 10 minutes and take a break and relax. When that timer goes off, right back to work.

It works for me because it turns 6 hours of school work in easily manageable half hour chunks and I stay much more productive.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Konyap]
    #19158883 - 11/19/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

24h+ of music creating and ending up with three tracks in the process.

Amphs are great.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Konyap]
    #19159016 - 11/19/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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amphs don't give you better scores

they just make kids with bad focus shut the fuck up for a second



Yeah, I don't think there is a lot evidence they increase retention or cognitive ability.  They certainly help with mundane, repeated, menial tasks though.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: badchad]
    #19159023 - 11/19/13 10:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Have to ever done any stims..?


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: badchad]
    #19159029 - 11/19/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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amphs don't give you better scores

they just make kids with bad focus shut the fuck up for a second



Yeah, I don't think there is a lot evidence they increase retention or cognitive ability.  They certainly help with mundane, repeated, menial tasks though.




And how! :dizope:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19159032 - 11/19/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Adhd? It is called a bad diet... eat more healthy..


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19159229 - 11/19/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In the title, why are you winking and crying at the same time?


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19159247 - 11/19/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Amps relax and focus people who are actually adhd.

For people that aren't, it just makes boring shit (studying, class, work) more exciting.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Pureless]
    #19159300 - 11/19/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Studying at the library helps me. When I'm at home I just wanna hit the vape and play xbox :lol:

When I'm at the library I can still get distracted on my laptop but I'm more likely to actually do my work/study. Nobody likes school, you just gotta do your shit if you want to find a decent job.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #19159328 - 11/19/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I know.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19160737 - 11/19/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i wouldn't recommend amphs for studying. not that i have anything against them but dude, come on, learn some discipline (which, btw, is part of the overall learning process) and get the work done.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: millzy]
    #19161201 - 11/19/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

When youhave self control and can afford it why not use them? I'm not saying to use ten everytime either. I hve a test every 3 weeks and use them to cram once per test, alot of time on test day since my class doesn't start until 6:30 pm, I take them at 12 and go to the math lab to study from 2-6 and go straight to class to take the test. I only use them sparingly, nothing wron with that.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19161207 - 11/19/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you're sinning chowder. some would call that pretty bad.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: zZZz]
    #19161232 - 11/19/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

We are all sinners. Only adderall can wash you clean of your sins. :sadyes:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Chowder963]
    #19161537 - 11/19/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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When youhave self control and can afford it why not use them? I'm not saying to use ten everytime either. I hve a test every 3 weeks and use them to cram once per test, alot of time on test day since my class doesn't start until 6:30 pm, I take them at 12 and go to the math lab to study from 2-6 and go straight to class to take the test. I only use them sparingly, nothing wron with that.




if that works for you then awesome. i just wouldn't recommend it as a general strategy. do the work, get the grades. all i'm saying.


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Pureless]
    #19162056 - 11/19/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Amps relax and focus people who are actually adhd.

For people that aren't, it just makes boring shit (studying, class, work) more exciting.




I'm pretty sure they work that way for everybody, but ADHD people have a lower boredom threshold, ie they get bored very easily and are generally bored all the time, even if they're having fun. When it comes to doing shit that even normal people consider "boring" it's a wash. They have no choice but to act out or to simply drift from subject to subject, it's the only way to remain conscious. Most people take this as a sign of indifference, but it's just the opposite. I seem really hyper when I'm not medicated and calm when I am, but being me I know that it makes me feel very stimulated.

I don't actually think ADHD is much of a "disorder", anyway, at least not of individuals. It's an evolutionary clash with modern lifestyles. For whatever reason we never adapted to the cognitive necessities of agrarian life, we're still trying to hunt and gather. Schools don't cater to that. Certain lines of work are better tailored to our abilities, but school is really just all about tending your crops, even if you can't see them getting any bigger. Every. Fucking. Day. (cue extreme fidgeting)

Which brings me to...

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When youhave self control and can afford it why not use them? I'm not saying to use ten everytime either. I hve a test every 3 weeks and use them to cram once per test, alot of time on test day since my class doesn't start until 6:30 pm, I take them at 12 and go to the math lab to study from 2-6 and go straight to class to take the test. I only use them sparingly, nothing wron with that.




if that works for you then awesome. i just wouldn't recommend it as a general strategy. do the work, get the grades. all i'm saying.




Yeah, cramming only goes so far. Once you blow through the easy classes, they get hard. Once you hack your way through those, they get still harder. It gets to where you have to give up a significant chunk of your life to stay above water. In my classes I study on the daily but I still have to cram come exam time. If it was easy to gain valuable skills, they wouldn't be valuable. I know how it is to assume I can just brush up the night before an exam, or bang out a project in a weekend, only to be utterly annihilated. Certain things are just not intuitive at all.

Anyway, I just popped a dex and I should probably expend its dopamine release on my actual studies. Ta-ta, all! :wave:


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Re: shity attention span ; ( how do YOU study effectively [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #19162068 - 11/19/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its pretty easy actually. i just tell myself that i will fucking fail if i don't study and waste my my tuition fee that could have gone to much better uses.


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