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Moorning Due
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ID Req: Is this Galerina sp?
#19154523 - 11/18/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Living in Seattle, WA.. Found on woodchip/roots. Did not take samples so no spore prints. They seemed to break really easy from the stipe when handling. The caps are slimy, fairly meaty, wavy when young, then becoming almost perfectly convex with age. The rest you can see from photos.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154587 - 11/18/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Galerina marginata I think but don't quote me on that.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Duggstar]
#19154603 - 11/18/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kuehneromyces lignicola seems more likely.
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said: Kuehneromyces lignicola seems more likely.
Stipe was bare with no ring from what I saw/remember.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154743 - 11/18/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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kuehneromyces vernalis maybe. The gills are wrong for Galerina IMHO.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154750 - 11/18/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How fragile/hollow are those stems? Brittle? I'm thinking Psathyrella or maybe Pholiota.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19154773 - 11/18/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Byrain said: How fragile/hollow are those stems? Brittle? I'm thinking Psathyrella or Pholiota.
They broke very easy when I went to pick up the bunch. I was thinking Pholiota too, but these are so much prettier more caramel like browner than the other Pholiota babies I have seen in this area. But who knows. They don't look like Psathyrella.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154794 - 11/18/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm going with Psathyrella, can you spore print them? Many Psathyrella species start off with white gills and I bet it was pretty wet where they were found?
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19154808 - 11/18/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'll grab some up and get some prints
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19154832 - 11/18/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Byrain said: I'm going with Psathyrella, can you spore print them? Many Psathyrella species start off with white gills and I bet it was pretty wet where they were found?
It's wet everywhere in Seattle right now. Actually, they are in some peat moss, but on the outer edge of a building kind of exposed to sunlight. (I guess the water from the building would drip down on them).
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154917 - 11/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are they growing on a log?
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19155007 - 11/18/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Reminds me of these, which i find growing in decaying moss and cedar duff.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19155050 - 11/18/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those diffidently look like Psathyrella.
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I believe them to be. Not sure about OP's though. I'd think Psathyrella but I'm terrible with LBMs.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19155106 - 11/18/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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They strike me as a Hypholoma. The young ones look a lot like H. capnoides pins. I'm curious how the spore print turns out.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Lhun]
#19155158 - 11/18/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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they kind of do, yeah, but if they are all the same species, then they should all have striation in the caps to some degree- like in the middle picture.
But its kind of hard to tell with these pictures.
I'm starting to doubt Psathyrella...wonder what color the print will be...
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19155226 - 11/18/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think kuehneromyces is likely, but that's just my opinion.
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lol, so Psathyrella, kuehneromyces, and, hypholoma all have brown spores...Hooray LBMs!
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19155368 - 11/18/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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To my knowledge, kuehneromyces is the only one that is viscous when wet like that. They almost look like they have a pellicule. "The clustered shiny convex caps are 6-8 cm in diameter. They are very hygrophanous; in a damp state they are shiny and greasy with a deep orange-brown color towards the rim; often there is a disc of lighter (less sodden) flesh in the middle. In a dry state they are cinnamon-colored."
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The caps are pretty similar...I would love to see the second cluster from the front rather than the top.
I have absolutely no experience with kuehneromyces but the lack of a ring or ring zone and brittleness of the fruit bodies are the only reasons I think otherwise.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Dr.Tooty]
#19155452 - 11/18/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I could be wrong, I am a lot of the time.
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Hypholoma is just a suspicious guess for me as well. There are just as many aspects that make me think Hypholoma as there are that make me think its not.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Lhun]
#19155725 - 11/18/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I went back and grabbed two and took more photos. It's getting dark. Here you are, thanks for your help all:












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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19155752 - 11/18/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm still going with Psathyrella.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19155774 - 11/18/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psathyrella piluliformis?

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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19155777 - 11/18/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Galerina usually grow separately or in small clusters around me. I notice that they have small stems.
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Byrain

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Looks possible, honestly Smith's book gives me way too much of a headache to open it without micro in most cases.
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said: Psathyrella piluliformis?
That looks like a pretty good guess Maynard.
Good call Byrain!
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Byrain]
#19155803 - 11/18/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psathyrella piluliformis?
Damn if that doesn't look just like it. I'll wait till these dry up a little and mature and hit this thread again with an update.
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Re: ID Req: Is this Galerina sp? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19155942 - 11/18/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psathyrella for sures, glad byrain was here.... to give you guys a whooping!
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