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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19157121 - 11/18/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Wow akira, why are you even still arguing? Everything you say gets shot down, and you act like you're winning the argument still, you should probably just stop, you're really starting to look stupid, just saying.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157127 - 11/18/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No ones praising him, I don't care about either of them, Trayvon was in the wrong when he started fighting Zimmerman, Trayvon broke the law, not the other way around.
That's what matters, nothing else.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: zZZz]
#19157131 - 11/18/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW EVERYONE AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW PERSON, A DAY; WE'LL SEE HOW LONG I SURVIVE.
Zim should have had his head bashed in, because he's such a fucking idiot.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157133 - 11/18/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: he wasn't running away, he was escaping the sight of the perpetrator that was following him like a stalker.
What's the difference between running away and escaping? It's the same fucking thing. 
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the only thing that you or any of your kind has to back up your shitty detestable world view, is that "he didn't break any laws!" well, wtf happens to cause the need for any laws... oh yeah, people do something that is fucking stupid and/or wrong and/or dangerous and/or is an invasion of personal space and property.
Yeah, he didn't break any laws. I don't think it was wrong of him to follow Martin considering the recent burglaries in his neighborhood. I feel the only wrong committed in that entire incident was the assault on Zimmerman by Martin.
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Sure, Zimmerman started the entire scenario
and that's the point. no one HAD to be confronted at all. from both parties involved. both parties made mistakes. only one broke any laws, but BOTH PARTIES INVOLVED MADE MISTAKES.
It was Zimmerman's duty as neighborhood watch to look for suspicious characters. Was he supposed to just call the police and run and hide in his house? No, he wanted to be proactive and I see nothing wrong with that. As a teen I was confronted by neighborhood watch, private community security, and police yet you didn't see my dumb ass dead on the news with my family crying for justice.
The only mistake I feel Zimmerman made was not immediately identifying himself as neighborhood watch, but I don't even think he had much of a chance to do so.
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IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT ^ stay the freaking fuck in American and never leave, for the worlds fucking sake. just stay and implode.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157135 - 11/18/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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this country is a big place, not everyone here is a moron.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157138 - 11/18/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW EVERYONE AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW PERSON, A DAY; WE'LL SEE HOW LONG I SURVIVE.
Zim should have had his head bashed in, because he's such a fucking idiot.
Go for it, no ones rushing to stop you....
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19157143 - 11/18/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: No ones praising him, I don't care about either of them, Trayvon was in the wrong when he started fighting Zimmerman, Trayvon broke the law, not the other way around.
That's what matters, nothing else.
wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken". unless you want no solutions. which you and everyone else loves because they can continue on with their degrading bullshit.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19157154 - 11/18/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW EVERYONE AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW PERSON, A DAY; WE'LL SEE HOW LONG I SURVIVE.
Zim should have had his head bashed in, because he's such a fucking idiot.
Go for it, no ones rushing to stop you....
well, my point is. i'd die, because i was following said person... they'd most certainly feel threatened and try and stop me. lest i killed the person.
so way to miss the fucking point, as per usual.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157157 - 11/18/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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and this is exactly why it was such a big controversy.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: zZZz]
#19157160 - 11/18/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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because people don't want to look at a solution, they just want to cover their collective asses, and even better yet, defend the notion of "law" when the law doesn't dictate ethics and reality, period end of story? well, they're dumb. like so many people trying to tell me, i don't have any logic. the logic is foolproof, but if people are going to clamor over how the "law was right, he was acquitted u mad!" then it'll go over their head.
i've made myself clear and idiots still wanna try and fuck around... Trayvon was not innocent according to the law... except for before you attacked Zim. which means... guess... that he was innocent BEFORE Zim started following him.
Zim following an innocent person around, thinking he was a criminal... is what INCITED THE EVENT.
read those words and tell me i'm wrong, i'll tell you you're an idiot.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157168 - 11/18/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken".
Well, if you go by that logic then you need to look beyond Zimmerman following Martin. The event happened because there was burglaries in the area. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the entire reason Zimmerman even joined the neighborhood watch and was looking for suspicious people in his community.
So blame the burglar.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157170 - 11/18/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: No ones praising him, I don't care about either of them, Trayvon was in the wrong when he started fighting Zimmerman, Trayvon broke the law, not the other way around.
That's what matters, nothing else.
wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken". unless you want no solutions. which you and everyone else loves because they can continue on with their degrading bullshit.
Why the event happened was because Tray-Tray started fighting him.
Yeah it wouldn't have happened if Zimmerman didn't follow him, but it definitely wouldn't have happened if Tray-Tray didn't start fighting him.
Maybe Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him, but he was within his right, both legally and morally.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: Everlong]
#19157174 - 11/18/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken".
Well, if you go by that logic then you need to look beyond Zimmerman following Martin. The event happened because there was burglaries in the area. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the entire reason Zimmerman even joined the neighborhood watch and was looking for suspicious people in his community.
So blame the burglar.
at least you finally logically looked at what i've been saying this entire time. FUCK IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME. you wanna be practical? FUCKING BE PRACTICAL THEN.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157176 - 11/18/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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And this is why I don't get involved in these threads.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157184 - 11/18/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Wow akira, why are you even still arguing? Everything you say gets shot down, and you act like you're winning the argument still, you should probably just stop, you're really starting to look stupid, just saying.
you people are fucking stupid, because you can't see simple facts.
you can't see anything except for what's fed from a conveyor belt to your fucking brain.
i can say it a million times and you fools will still only see what you want to see...
Trayvon was in the wrong... ZIMMERMAN WAS ALSO IN THE WRONG, NOT LEGALLY, BUT HE SHOULDN'T BE FOLLOWING ANYONE INCESSANTLY, BECAUSE NO ONE IN THIS FUCKIGN PLANET WOULD LIKE THAT OR ACCEPT THAT FROM ANYONE ELSE. PERIOD.
"he shouldn't be following anyone"
Why not? The neighborhood was infested with crime, he saw someone he didn't recognize, this is called acting responsibly.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157185 - 11/18/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think this is why we have these laws, because it would be almost impossible to know exactly what went on. these laws, although man made, help settle things between both parties much more quickly. it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. it keeps the line going and it keeps society at peace for the most part.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157186 - 11/18/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken".
Well, if you go by that logic then you need to look beyond Zimmerman following Martin. The event happened because there was burglaries in the area. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the entire reason Zimmerman even joined the neighborhood watch and was looking for suspicious people in his community.
So blame the burglar.
at least you finally logically looked at what i've been saying this entire time. FUCK IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME.
But this entire time you've been saying Zimmerman did something wrong, which I disagree with. He was proactively trying to better his community.
And judging by Trayvon's reaction, it seems like he did make his community better. You don't need thugs running around assaulting people for silly reasons.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19157190 - 11/18/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: No ones praising him, I don't care about either of them, Trayvon was in the wrong when he started fighting Zimmerman, Trayvon broke the law, not the other way around.
That's what matters, nothing else.
wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken". unless you want no solutions. which you and everyone else loves because they can continue on with their degrading bullshit.
Why the event happened was because Tray-Tray started fighting him.
Yeah it wouldn't have happened if Zimmerman didn't follow him, but it definitely wouldn't have happened if Tray-Tray didn't start fighting him.
Maybe Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him, but he was within his right, both legally and morally.
not morally. NOT. because he was WRONG. he wasn't a criminal and even if he was, THEY HAVE NO PROOF, which is why that FUCKING STUPID FUCK, should have stayed out of the INNOCENT KIDS business, and leave it to the police. like any NORMAL CITIZEN.
legally, yes. morally, no.
and in no way am i saying that Trayvon's death was "unjustified", you keep circling to that. i'm not saying that. i'm only saying that Trayvon felt threatened and THAT's why he accosted Zimmerman. not because he just happened to, because that logic doesn't follow the course of events. in the ACTUAL course of events, Zimmerman followed an innocent person, thinking that said person was a criminal. his original assumption was WRONG, and hence HE WAS IN THE WRONG; past the point of him shooting Martin while he was attacked.
can't be more clear, but i'm ... i'm sure someone will still confuse something i'm clearly saying here, right now.
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zZZz said: this country is a big place, not everyone here is a moron.
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And judging by Trayvon's reaction, it seems like he did make his community better. You don't need thugs running around assaulting people for silly reasons.
that's a logical assertion, although, the police authorities would argue otherwise. because if everyone did waht Zimmerman did, we'd have chaos.
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zZZz said: i think this is why we have these laws, because it would be almost impossible to know exactly what went on. these laws, although man made, help settle things between both parties much more quickly. it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. it keeps the line going and it keeps society at peace for the most part.
right, so lets address the fucking facts. nobody can proof that Trayvon was a criminal. anything anyone has is circumstantial. this isn't some cop show where you can just "go by your gut".
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157217 - 11/18/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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mjmihalov said: No ones praising him, I don't care about either of them, Trayvon was in the wrong when he started fighting Zimmerman, Trayvon broke the law, not the other way around.
That's what matters, nothing else.
wrong. what matters is WHY the event happened. not that "the law was broken". unless you want no solutions. which you and everyone else loves because they can continue on with their degrading bullshit.
Why the event happened was because Tray-Tray started fighting him.
Yeah it wouldn't have happened if Zimmerman didn't follow him, but it definitely wouldn't have happened if Tray-Tray didn't start fighting him.
Maybe Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him, but he was within his right, both legally and morally.
not morally. NOT. because he was WRONG. he wasn't a criminal and even if he was, THEY HAVE NO PROOF, which is why that FUCKING STUPID FUCK, should have stayed out of the INNOCENT KIDS business, and leave it to the police. like any NORMAL CITIZEN.
legally, yes. morally, no.
and in no way am i saying that Trayvon's death was "unjustified", you keep circling to that. i'm not saying that. i'm only saying that Trayvon felt threatened and THAT's why he accosted Zimmerman. not because he just happened to, because that logic doesn't follow the course of events. in the ACTUAL course of events, Zimmerman followed an innocent person, thinking that said person was a criminal. his original assumption was WRONG, and hence HE WAS IN THE WRONG; past the point of him shooting Martin while he was attacked.
can't be more clear, but i'm ... i'm sure someone will still confuse something i'm clearly saying here, right now.
Whenever he was in his house with his people away from Zimmerman he still felt threatened? Then he's fucking stupid, maybe he should've called the police. He was out of harms way then came back into a threatening situation after he already got out it.
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Re: George Zimmerman arrested [Re: akira_akuma]
#19157231 - 11/18/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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travis was probably walking around at odd hours which may have caused suspicion. i don't think it was because of his ethnicity. yes what zimmerman did was wrong, although he was following him based on his suspicions, it was his right to do so. he may have gone too far because he was obviously spotted by travis. it was everyone's fault, it was a tragedy. it's not about WHO sparked it, but WHAT?; GREED, ignorance, lack of love, etc.. which exactly what is going on here.
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