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PoleSpearDiver
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Armillaria, chanterelles?
#19154143 - 11/18/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Went for a quick walk in Mendo and found A. muscaria, and I think Armillaria and chantrelles.
Is this one small Amanita enough to feel anything? I want to start small in case i'm one of the people it makes sick.



Here is Armillaria (?) Habitat: Growing out of old stump burried in leaf liter.
Gills: Attached, decurrent, medium spaced
Stem: equal, scaley (?)
Cap: Convex, tan
Spore print color: White Bruising: None Annulus: Skirtlike


   
Maybe Chantrelle? Old and dried
Growing in leaf liter, no spore print obtainable.

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Try brushing the chantrelle... pulishing it? If somewhat fresh it should become bright orange...
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It looks like you have Armillaria mellea and Gomphus floccosus.
Not sure about the A. muscaria dosage though.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Looks like a decently sized A. muscaria, I would start by frying the whole thing in butter until brown, add a little salt and pepper and eat half. If nothing in 80 minutes, eat the other half.
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Lhun
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PoleSpearDiver said: Is this one small Amanita enough to feel anything?
Yes. I would not eat the whole thing myself. Others might have a more experienced answer.
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PoleSpearDiver said: Here is Armillaria (?)
Yes.
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PoleSpearDiver said: Maybe Chantrelle? Old and dried
No, Turbinellus species. Looks like Turbinellus kauffmanii, or Turbinellus floccosus perhaps.
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I'd eat that muscaria. 
I like them fresh better than dried. Clean it off and fry with salt, pepper, butter, and garlic(looks like that part has been covered already). I've never gotten sick, But I've also never eaten heroic amounts of muscimol.
There are many other ways to prepare it as well
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Re: Armillaria, chanterelles? [Re: Lhun]
#19154195 - 11/18/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lhun said: Turbinellus floccosus
When did they change it?!?
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Re: Armillaria, chanterelles? [Re: Tangich]
#19154205 - 11/18/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tangich said: When did they change it?!?
In 1909.
And then they recently reaffirmed the change in 2011.
See Mycotaxon 115: 196 (2011)
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PoleSpearDiver
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Re: Armillaria, chanterelles? [Re: Tangich]
#19154211 - 11/18/13 01:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the speedy replies. I had a feeling it wasn't a chantrelle, but wanted it to be after seeing a mushroom delivery truck in Fort Bragg hauling in a couple hundred pounds of fresh picked ones.
As for A. mellea, when you say "looks like" is that your official ID so I can try it, or just a possible could be?
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Re: Armillaria, chanterelles? [Re: Tangich]
#19154217 - 11/18/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Tangich said: When did they change it?!?
Just as soon as we got comfortable with the other name, like they always do.
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Alan Rockefeller
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PoleSpearDiver said: Thanks for the speedy replies. I had a feeling it wasn't a chantrelle, but wanted it to be after seeing a mushroom delivery truck in Fort Bragg hauling in a couple hundred pounds of fresh picked ones.
As for A. mellea, when you say "looks like" is that your official ID so I can try it, or just a possible could be?
The Turbinellus is edible if you eat just a little bit, but large amounts will cause diarrhea. It is irresponsible for the mushroom delivery truck to be selling an indigestible species.
Go ahead and try the Armillaria, just the caps though. The stems are tough unless you peel them. Try the Turbinellus too, but just a few bites.
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Re: Armillaria, chanterelles? [Re: Lhun]
#19154227 - 11/18/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lhun said:
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Tangich said: When did they change it?!?
Just as soon as we got comfortable with the other name, like they always do. 
 Actually this is perhaps the first time I prefer the 'new' name!
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PoleSpearDiver
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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PoleSpearDiver said: Thanks for the speedy replies. I had a feeling it wasn't a chantrelle, but wanted it to be after seeing a mushroom delivery truck in Fort Bragg hauling in a couple hundred pounds of fresh picked ones.
As for A. mellea, when you say "looks like" is that your official ID so I can try it, or just a possible could be?
The Turbinellus is edible if you eat just a little bit, but large amounts will cause diarrhea. It is irresponsible for the mushroom delivery truck to be selling an indigestible species.
Go ahead and try the Armillaria, just the caps though. The stems are tough unless you peel them. Try the Turbinellus too, but just a few bites.
I'm pretty sure the truck had actual Chanterelles Alan. I didn't get close but they looked legit. Said they sell them down in SF, crate loads, and had a company name on the van.
Thanks. I'll try a bit of the Honey Mushrooms, then tomorrow eat the rest. I might try the Turbinellus too, but not sure if I even want to risk the mud butt. Unless they have some unique flavor I absolutely have to try.
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MidnightCity
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PoleSpearDiver said: As for A. mellea, when you say "looks like" is that your official ID so I can try it, or just a possible could be?
It's Armillaria and I think it's close A. mellea from what you've provided. Just make sure to cook thoroughly as these can sometimes cause stomach upset. Like Alan mentioned, I would also suggest just eating the caps and not the stems.
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PoleSpearDiver
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Ate the whole thing. Within 15 minutes I thought i felt warm and relaxed. Probably just a placebo effect. Hour and a half no change so I ate the other half. Never did feel anything. Not even nasau. Bummer.
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PoleSpearDiver said: I'm pretty sure the truck had actual Chanterelles Alan. I didn't get close but they looked legit. Said they sell them down in SF, crate loads, and had a company name on the van.
Bunch of greedy commercial pickers raping the forest so they can sell their over priced findings to the yuppies in SF, super.
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