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Chrisitanity is just a fad
    #19153888 - 11/18/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's a long lasting one because let's face it -Judeo-Christians are really good guilt trippers, but it's still just a faze for teenage humanity.

We all will grow up though. Have a little faith in God. The Dark Ages will not last forever.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69]
    #19153906 - 11/18/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wrong.  Humanity will not grow up. We will continue to grow wider however.  :girlishjoy:  :wooyeah:  :fatfear:  :knockmeonmyass:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19153951 - 11/18/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to have some muscles to carry your cross.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69]
    #19156794 - 11/18/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

A whole thread dedicated to hate on Christians and you didn't even articulate any interesting facts or incite an intellectual debate. Christians>you. Read a book, do some thinking, come back and try again. Christians have made far better points in fewer words.

Of course in general Christians suck just as much as the rest of humanity but I've met some who would blow your little mind. Good day!


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr] * 1
    #19158253 - 11/19/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No, no. Egoism is the fad and Christianity is one of the many means provided to man to help him overcome it. I certainly hope Christianity does not leave us before egoism. Egoism is what humanity must mature out of, not the path of virtue and righteousness prescribed by Christianity. Righteousness, wisdom and love are the hallmarks of a mature human being and a mature Christian.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69]
    #19158346 - 11/19/13 05:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

everything is a fad

in what respect are judeo-christians good 'guilt trippers'?


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Chronic7]
    #19158366 - 11/19/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

in the classic sense


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19158371 - 11/19/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A whole thread dedicated to hate on Christians and you didn't even articulate any interesting facts or incite an intellectual debate. Christians>you. Read a book, do some thinking, come back and try again. Christians have made far better points in fewer words.

Of course in general Christians suck just as much as the rest of humanity but I've met some who would blow your little mind. Good day!




Actually I didn't say anything about hate. There's no point arguing reasonably about something unreasonable. I was just thinking hopefully.  I really don't hate Christianity or Christians. I don't do hate.  I am married to a Catholic. Her parents are the two best people on Earth. 

I was just expressing hope that someday people would find something based in reason and rationality to base their fervent hopes in, instead of hoping for something completely based in myth which only differs from other myths by virtue of the afterlife emphasis.

I understand you don't like me Greymorph but you could choose to be more discrete and reasonable in your hatred and choose one point to argue about how much you hate my topic, instead of the whole thing :wink:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69] * 1
    #19159053 - 11/19/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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it's a long lasting one because let's face it -Judeo-Christians are really good guilt trippers, but it's still just a faze for teenage humanity.

We all will grow up though. Have a little faith in God. The Dark Ages will not last forever.




:ilold:

You have far, far too much confidence in the general intelligence of the human race, IMO.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #19159180 - 11/19/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't hate you OP, I don't even know you. I'm just saying that the way you started the thread isn't in good tastes. The problem with what you're preaching is lack of spirituality. I believe in knowledge and spirituality but a lot of the time they are at odds. A lot of things that have been proven by science were already known by the ancients. Now science gives us some mundane reasoning behind things while ancients believed in higher power, there's really no difference except for the fact that science is slower than the ever evolving universe. We will never know everything so when you don't, just believe in what your soul and heart says.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19159325 - 11/19/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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A lot of things that have been proven by science were already known by the ancients.




Like what


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19160299 - 11/19/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You want an example or do you want a thousand examples? I don't have time for a thousand but here is one, modern medicines are derived from ancient medicines. Here's another medical example, in medieval times they thought leeches could absorb your sickness. Modern medicine uses the enzyme from the leech to treat stroke victims.

A lot of ancient philosophies were based on mystical experiences and spiritual experiences with the earthy divine and YET modern science is just now explaining these experiences in mundane terms. Doesn't make reality any less magical, mystical or spirituall than what it truly is. Just makes it more difficult to experience first hand unfortunately.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69]
    #19160407 - 11/19/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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it's a long lasting one because let's face it -Judeo-Christians are really good guilt trippers, but it's still just a faze for teenage humanity.

We all will grow up though. Have a little faith in God. The Dark Ages will not last forever.





I don't know if Christianity is so much a "fad" as it has become cultural and political on top of religious and spiritual. This may actually allow it to survive long into the future though it may have a different role in times to come.

If one goes along with the historical idea that Christianity sprang from Judaism which sprang from Canaanite Polytheism the next model could either end up being pantheistic OR a reimagining of polytheism. One can already see this in the way some Christians place Mary as the Queen of heaven, a modern day Asherah (of the proto-Judaic model); with Yeshua ben Yussef as the demi-god child of the union of heaven and earth.

Is this accepted as canon? No. Not by the Catholic Church or most Protestant denominations, but for the millions of people who call themselves "Christian" but aren't affiliated with a particular doctrine or dogma, there DOES seem to be a drift from hard-nosed monotheism to a softer one built on "greater" and "lesser" deities with various intermediaries and spirits occupying the space between these entities and human kind.

Personally? I LOVE it. I think the rash of fundamental materialism that is all the rage these days if  hubristic and strips wonder and awe from the universe. It feels like a control mechanism by a bunch of scared humans who can't face the idea that things might not be all "about them."

But that's just me and that's just my two cents American which ain't worth shit.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: dionysiandame] * 1
    #19161532 - 11/19/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Christianity is based on fear.

If the evidence were such that Christianity's truth was immediately apparent to anyone who considered it, Christians (including the writers of the Bible)  would feel no need to result to the cheap tactic of using fear inducing threats to inspire belief. 

Furthermore don't you think if Jesus Christ were the son of God and the savior of mankind that more than just a small group of people in Israel would have known about him? Don't you think the God of humanity in the flesh coming to earth would make himself known to everyone


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19161861 - 11/19/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

He did make himself known to the world. :wink:

Not arguing, bud. You know my beliefs. I just like a heated discussion, haha.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19161899 - 11/19/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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He did make himself known to the world. :wink:

Not arguing, bud. You know my beliefs. I just like a heated discussion, haha.




Explain  how he made himself known to the world


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19161959 - 11/19/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Through the bible. The few that don't know about him are only in the deepest remote areas of the world. Places where we pagans belong, haha.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19162019 - 11/19/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I would like to think Christianity is just a fad but sadly I don't think that's the case. I believe it's here to stay.

As a pagan one of my biggest issues with Christianity is that it depreciates the natural world.

With Christians emphasis on the afterlife they don't seem to be too concerned with the things of this world. James Watt (the Secretary of interior during Reagan's term) went as far to actively encourage the strip mining and clear cutting of the American West! He reasoned that the ecological damage didn't matter because the rapture was at hand :facepalm:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19162038 - 11/19/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Through the bible. The few that don't know about him are only in the deepest remote areas of the world. Places where we pagans belong, haha.





Come on Grey! I expected more out of you than that! Is that the best you can do?

Jesus didn't print and distribute the bible throughout the world.

Like I said during his life he only made his self known to a small group of locals. I think an omnipotent god could do a little better. Don't you?

This is exactly why the Jewish people don't see Christ as the Messiah. They say when the Messiah comes the whole world will know.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19162081 - 11/19/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Christianity is based on fear.

If the evidence were such that Christianity's truth was immediately apparent to anyone who considered it, Christians (including the writers of the Bible)  would feel no need to result to the cheap tactic of using fear inducing threats to inspire belief. 

Furthermore don't you think if Jesus Christ were the son of God and the savior of mankind that more than just a small group of people in Israel would have known about him? Don't you think the God of humanity in the flesh coming to earth would make himself known to everyone



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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19162398 - 11/19/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lol, you're missing the point. Obviously Jesus didn't print or even write any book within the bible but he chose his disciples who did write the bible. The Christian god is omnipotent and so he obviously knew that "the word" would be spread through Jesus and his disciples. An omnipotent God would obviously understand anything that we couldn't grasp. You see, I believe that I understand omnipotence better than anyone who would ever argue against Christianity. Who the FUCK would ever question an omnipotent God?!? That's what makes Christianity so convincing. You'd also have to look at Christianity from Gods perepective. An omnipotent perspective. The Christian god would look at us as insects, time to him would be of no importance, one soul would be no more miraculous than a grain of sand but in that perfectly mundane outlook would like the perfect beauty of such revelance that something so small could develop so powerfully. A cosmic omnipotent god would not see death as we see it. He would think us foolish to question him because some tornado ripped through a town and killed 16 people. We'd ask why desperately crying for the pain and sorrow and he would look down on us pitifully because we can't see that from his eyes, death is every bit as important and miraculous as life itself. That's also why I don't believe in Christianity. The most powerful evidence that could convince me of Christianity would be Gods omnipotence and yet it's the omnipotence that makes Christianity completely impossible. Omnipotence is impossible. It defies everything we know, the universe is ever changing and omnipotence wouldn't ever change, it contradicts the universe itself.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19162610 - 11/19/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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That's what makes Christianity so convincing.




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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #19163172 - 11/20/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19163318 - 11/20/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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If the evidence were such that Christianity's truth was immediately apparent to anyone who considered it, Christians (including the writers of the Bible)  would feel no need to result to the cheap tactic of using fear inducing threats to inspire belief.




Ironically this appears to one of the Christian's major arguments: "I felt the truth of the Bible as soon as I read it."


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19165566 - 11/20/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Christianity is based on fear.

If the evidence were such that Christianity's truth was immediately apparent to anyone who considered it, Christians (including the writers of the Bible)  would feel no need to result to the cheap tactic of using fear inducing threats to inspire belief. 

Furthermore don't you think if Jesus Christ were the son of God and the savior of mankind that more than just a small group of people in Israel would have known about him? Don't you think the God of humanity in the flesh coming to earth would make himself known to everyone



:thumbup:




one of the most irritating things with Christianity haters is that they have no idea what they're talking about and say things like this which are literally addressed in the Bible, if you bothered to read it. This logic doesn't even make sense, firstly because 1) many more people than the apostles new about Christ, and 2) Christianity has spread all around the globe and is one of the most practiced religions there is, so it's not just 'a small group of people in Israel' and 3) if you will take yourself on an adventure to google.com you can find all kinds of theological explanations as for why Christs life happened the way it did.

Questioning the status quo is great but this isn't questioning anything, it's just ignorance.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Oliveaux]
    #19165581 - 11/20/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was responding to the "christianity is based on fear" part.  I guess I should have quoted just that part. :shrug:

But I have read the bible several times and attended Baptist Bible College in Michigan in the 70s. I grew up with the bible.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19165617 - 11/20/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was responding to the "christianity is based on fear" part.  I guess I should have quoted just that part. :shrug:

But I have read the bible several times and attended Baptist Bible College in Michigan in the 70s. I grew up with the bible.




no worries, it wasn't meant as an attack on you or anyone in particular but rather the intellectual laziness that comes with these discussions about Christianity, exemplified in the illogical post.

while i'm here though i feel the need to point out that the way Christianity is practiced in the U.S. is absolutely bizarre and unlike anything else in the world. The same arguments used against Christianity are applicable to most dominant religions (control based on fear - is there any other kind?), fundamentalism, cultural imperialism etc.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19165625 - 11/20/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I went to Catholic high school for two years, my wife still doesn't believe me because the school isn't named after a saint, i showed it to her on the net. i had religious classes - she didn't ....


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: eve69]
    #19165686 - 11/20/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I spent the first 25 years of my life in the church learning the bible. The problem isn't that I don't know the bible. The problem is that I do

Sure people all over the globe know about Christianity now but that's only been within the past 300 years.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19165729 - 11/20/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Pagan pride! Lol, this discussion went limp, storm rider. Onward we march!


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19165737 - 11/20/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I spent the first 25 years of my life in the church learning the bible. The problem isn't that I don't know the bible. The problem is that I do

Sure people all over the globe know about Christianity now but that's only been within the past 300 years.




There was also a time before Christ came and the Bible addresses the fate of human souls in the absence of Christ. I'm sorry your religious education was so bereft but if you're sincere about your question then your best bet is to seek out the information applicable to the denomination you do or don't subscribe to since explanations for the Christ story differ. From an Orthodox Christian perspective, the message was spread around the globe as was Gods plan and miracles are not performed as parlor tricks. Again, if you refer to your Bible, Christ did not perform miracles on command to impress or convert people but only performed them for the benefit of the faithful.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: GreySatyr]
    #19165788 - 11/20/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pagan pride! Lol, this discussion went limp, storm rider. Onward we march!




:werd: At least us pagans worship something tangible. If people  would worry half as much about our natural world than their immortal soul we'd be in good shape!

Oliveaux I Iiterally feel sorry for Christians. They're so brainwashed it saddens me. Some of the things Christians take literally from the Bible like the creation story and the story of the flood are almost comical. Those stories are allegorical and were never meant to be taken literally.  Not to mention that Christianity is anti intellectual and anti scientific


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19165858 - 11/20/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pagan pride! Lol, this discussion went limp, storm rider. Onward we march!




:werd: At least us pagans worship something tangible. If people  would worry half as much about our natural world than their immortal soul we'd be in good shape!

Oliveaux I Iiterally feel sorry for Christians. They're so brainwashed it saddens me. Some of the things Christians take literally from the Bible like the creation story and the story of the flood are almost comical. Those stories are allegorical and were never meant to be taken literally.  Not to mention that Christianity is anti intellectual and anti scientific



Again, you are talking about a minority of Fundamentalist U.S. Christians, and as I said before, Christianity just isn't practiced like that in other places. I'd be lying if I said the cultural imperialism of this statement doesn't annoy me, largely because the U.S. has such a long and ugly history of believing it is the centre of the universe and no one else exists. Point being, most Christians do not take the creation story literally or see it as being in opposition to science including evolution nor do they believe the stories in the old testament are literal, rather they're allegories. One countries bastardization of an ancient religion shouldn't define it, or be touted as anything more than the bizarre cultural and political practice that it is. #rant over


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Oliveaux]
    #19165928 - 11/20/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You have to understand GreyMorph and I live in Southeastern United States and this is what we are surrounded by. This is what Christianity is to us because this is what we're surrounded by


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Stromrider]
    #19165942 - 11/20/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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You have to understand GreyMorph and I live in Southeastern United States and this is what we are surrounded by. This is what Christianity is to us because this is what we're surrounded by



If you're only referring to Bible Belt Christianity then say so, as Christianity literally encompasses Christians of all denominations from all around the globe. The base assumption that U.S. Christianity is somehow indicative of all Christian practice, implied or not, is the cultural imperialism and US centrism I was referring to.


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Oliveaux]
    #19166420 - 11/20/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was responding to the "christianity is based on fear" part.  I guess I should have quoted just that part. :shrug:

But I have read the bible several times and attended Baptist Bible College in Michigan in the 70s. I grew up with the bible.




no worries, it wasn't meant as an attack on you or anyone in particular but rather the intellectual laziness that comes with these discussions about Christianity, exemplified in the illogical post.

while i'm here though i feel the need to point out that the way Christianity is practiced in the U.S. is absolutely bizarre and unlike anything else in the world. The same arguments used against Christianity are applicable to most dominant religions (control based on fear - is there any other kind?), fundamentalism, cultural imperialism etc.




Oh I agree. :satansmoking:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19168380 - 11/21/13 01:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think Christianity in the many forms it takes at the moment in the west will probably die out, especially considering that there is an active agenda to do so (not just destroy the religion but also it's core values in humanity), but as long as there are humans Christ & what he taught will be alive within them, even if every bible on the planet is destroyed, you can destroy peoples beliefs & their books, and you can distract them with shitty movies, music & sex, but you can't totally destroy peoples urge to find the truth of their Being, you can't destroy eternal wisdom, and that what's Christ truly is, so Christianity is a fad, but Christ isn't


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Chronic7]
    #19168400 - 11/21/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

but as long as there are humans Christ & what he taught will be alive within them

No offense dear boy

but

I don't see how you could possibly know this.  I love it how people make these proclamations, from the pulpit so to speak and then expect it to be taken as a self evident truth. :lol:


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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19168461 - 11/21/13 02:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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but as long as there are humans Christ & what he taught will be alive within them

No offense dear boy

but

I don't see how you could possibly know this.  I love it how people make these proclamations, from the pulpit so to speak and then expect it to be taken as a self evident truth. :lol:




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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Icelander]
    #19169028 - 11/21/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
but as long as there are humans Christ & what he taught will be alive within them

No offense dear boy

but

I don't see how you could possibly know this.  I love it how people make these proclamations, from the pulpit so to speak and then expect it to be taken as a self evident truth. :lol:




None taken :smile:

I far from expect what I say to be taken blindly as truth & enjoy chatting to you about these things

What i meant is that the realizations of Sages can be realized within yourself without even ever having heard the teachings before, like there is timeless wisdom in us all waiting to shine, of course I can only speak for myself but I've heard others mention the same thing, so as i see it as long as humans exist they have the potential for those realizations to blossom within themselves

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Re: Chrisitanity is just a fad [Re: Chronic7]
    #19170096 - 11/21/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fact is i just don't know what to believe ever since i saw a polka version of 999's homicide at sun after bingo smoothy bar


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