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SgtPepperNo9
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Is this textbook cobweb? Grew over colonized myc.
#19153347 - 11/18/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I have 2 cakes in the sgfc they are looking good. So far just some aerial myc which is a little concerning but thats not what this post it about.
I was anxious to get these next two jars birthed because the 2 cakes were lonely in the big sgfc and today was the day. 2 days ago I noticed 1 jar had some really fluffy white areas on top of the myc but they were consolidating and I wasn't too worried at this point. 1 day ago I noticed this same jar producing what I had hoped were metabolites (yellow liquid drops.) This made me even more excited for this morning because I wanted to make sure everything was ok.
1 jar looked perfect from the exterior but had this strange smell. Not pleasant but not horrible either. Rhizo stranding type growth all over it, fully colonized on the outside, felt normal. Its dunked in water right now and I am not sure what to do with it. The smell definitely seemed not normal but I can't say I'm familiar with the "mushroom smell" everyone refers to.
Here is the jar that is bad IMO. The same one that had those fluffy areas. I took pics rotating the jar so you can see everything.


Here is the border of where the thicker areas appear.

Straight on.

Close up of what I was hoping were just metabolites. Still could be I guess if the myc was fighting this stuff.

The other bordering area.

The bottom, thicker area of concern is at the 12 o clock position.

I popped the jar open today since it was time to dunk and thats when I noticed this. Some of the verm layer already scraped off.
Side view (couldn't see this with the lid on.)

Top view, coming through the verm!

So I feel this is cobweb or some similar mold from everything I have looked up. Do you guys agree? I just found it weird that I would have a cake that is fully colonized and looking great on the outside only to have this grow ON TOP of the myc.
And what do I do with this thing? I was considering h202 with water for the dunk. I will have to look up the exact ratio later. If I do that should I toss the funky smelling cake in there with it?
Finally, do you suggest I fruit these elsewhere? I have this big sgfc built to spec that could probably fit 10-12 cakes and only 2 are in there now. I probably wont have another few jars ready to birth for another 1-2 weeks so those 2 will be alone.

Thanks for your help! My excitement for getting to birth these things and add them to the chamber was suddenly halted by all this.
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Re: Is this textbook cobweb? Grew over colonized myc. [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
#19153622 - 11/18/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The pics all look fine except the one showing the very bottom, which could indicate bacteria.
Birth the cake and then wash it under the faucet. Afterwards, give it the smell test. If it smells like fresh mushrooms, fruit it or break up to spawn to bulk. Don't mix it with any stinky cake. If anything doesn't smell like fresh mushrooms, toss it out or bury in the garden or flowerbed area. RR
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Re: Is this textbook cobweb? Grew over colonized myc. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19153718 - 11/18/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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well try to fruit it as RR said, did it take long for the cake to colonize?
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SgtPepperNo9
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Re: Is this textbook cobweb? Grew over colonized myc. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19155718 - 11/18/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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RR, first off this may sound silly but its an honor having you respond to a post of mine. After studying your videos and reading your posts on shroomery for months and months in preparation for my first shot and even more studying/reading since I have started you are like a shroom celebrity (shroomlebrity?) in my mind. Your grow area for shitakes (atleast what I saw on mushroomvideos) looks amazing by the way.
I will do what you said and go ahead and fruit this cake. I guess I just hadn't seen many pics where the myc was all light and whispy at the top through the verm so I started stressing myself out. Should I be concerned at all about throwing this one in with the cakes that have been in the FC for 6 days? I don't have much time (at least in the next couple of days) to set up another tub for quarantining it.
I will definitely not be adding the smelly cake to the FC per your instructions. I guess my lesson here is sometimes smell trumps the visual inspection? Unless its obviously green or something of course. I was thinking about trying to fruit it in another chamber since it looks perfect from the outside but like I mentioned before, I don't have much time tonight to do that so probably wont.
Aero, thanks for responding as well. These too (EDIT:two) cakes took about a month give or a take a few days to colonize and consolidate. So not an unusually long amount of time?...I think.
Edited by SgtPepperNo9 (11/18/13 05:48 PM)
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Re: Is this textbook cobweb? Grew over colonized myc. [Re: SgtPepperNo9]
#19155776 - 11/18/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My opinion as I've voiced many times before is the same depending on the region you live as if its still warm and humid outside.
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If anything doesn't smell like fresh mushrooms, toss it out or bury in the garden or flowerbed area.
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