Home | Community | Message Board

NorthSpore.com BOOMR Bag!
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]
OfflineScriabinAnime
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 355
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 3 months, 23 days
My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster
    #19153147 - 11/18/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't ask me how I got my thoughts, they just are what they are.

According to my current theories and beliefs, I believe the process of mushroom fruiting is simultaneously one that disassembles matter at the smallest unit, and becoming a "single unit" which can mix and reset the surrounding atmosphere following.

Basically I think mushrooms break things down, such as poop/plastic/viruses/cancer/radiation/etc.

So then we think "Can we grow mushrooms with spent fuel rods as a substrate" ?

No. However, I was thinking how urine, a bioform product along with feces, could be used on the fuel rod; someone pisses on it. That is however, not possible, because it would catch on fire because the fuel rods need to be cooled at all times.

What if however; an enormous amount of human urine was collected, and cooled, and was used to cool the spent rods. That would eliminate the otherwise impossibility of "urinating on the rods".  Would the metal oxidize? would it deconstruct, dissolve, break down? I believe it may be inevitable that it would break down into a substrate for mushrooms to quickly grow from; the hardest part has been done, figuring out the condition for the mushrooms to grow from would be easy, if not automatic.

In the end, essentially, the toxic waste would be completely de-atomized, reset, into something unharmful. It would simultaneously feed off of fuel rod, and radiation energy.

I envision green growing mushrooms all around the site and cooled urine waste. 
How ironic; that overpopulation of humans, to provide urine, would be a good thing.




Thoughts?

I thought of this theory about an hour ago, and it might be so solid that I advocate the word.

Edit: Perhaps, furthermore, Cannabis plants would grow on land and feed off of and neutralize the radiation (and consequently produce some dank ass buds, the more radiation the better)


Edited by ScriabinAnime (11/19/13 08:02 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefiddle
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/10/08
Posts: 1,769
Loc: PNW
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime] * 2
    #19153153 - 11/18/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Ya know what? They need more rocks. Rocks have been radioactive for millions of years and nobody has said a damn thing about it. Fill the damn thing up with rocks and let them soak up all the radiation. No more dead fish, no more cancer babies. Problem solved.


--------------------
Tickle my bassline.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNotTheDevil
Transhuman


Registered: 01/08/13
Posts: 5,436
Loc: US Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153170 - 11/18/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
What if however; an enormous amount of human urine was collected, and cooled, and was used to cool the spent rods. That would eliminate the otherwise impossibility of "urinating on the rods".  Would the metal oxidize? would it deconstruct, dissolve, break down? I believe it may be inevitable that it would break down into a substrate for mushrooms to quickly grow from; the hardest part has been done, figuring out the condition for the mushrooms to grow from would be easy, if not automatic.

In the end, essentially, the toxic waste would be completely de-atomized, reset, into something unharmful. It would simultaneously feed off of fuel rod, and radiation energy.




Thats not how mushrooms work. Mushrooms work with chemistry, not alchemy.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineScriabinAnime
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 355
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 3 months, 23 days
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19153211 - 11/18/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

t=52m50s

52:50-53:27 is that alchemy? I relate these two


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime] * 1
    #19153219 - 11/18/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I heard they could grow mushrooms in the area of radiation and concentrate the radiation. The only downside is you would have radioactive mushrooms you would have to put in barrels that don't decay, but yeah, that is a huge fucking mess.


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNotTheDevil
Transhuman


Registered: 01/08/13
Posts: 5,436
Loc: US Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153233 - 11/18/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
t=52m50s

52:50-53:27 is that alchemy? I relate these two



No, these mushrooms are just being mushrooms, eating poop and growing. They don't break things down in the way it seems you think they do, they don't break down cancer or radiation at least. They "break down" things in the same way humans break down food. Its all just really complex chemistry, this group of atoms is split/grouped into these other groups of atoms, either as a way to store or extract energy. Nowhere in these processes does an element become another element as would be required to de-atomize them into something else. Mushrooms can however use radiation as a source of energy in a similar way as to how plants can use sunlight, but this does not destroy the nuclear material.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #19153237 - 11/18/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly, the mushrooms would be full of radiation still. The radiation would be more concentrated though. They would have to put them somewhere where a hippie wasn't going to come by and eat like twenty though hahaha.


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19153239 - 11/18/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i say we nuke the Fuk. problem solved.


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19153244 - 11/18/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mindgnome said:
Exactly, the mushrooms would be full of radiation still. The radiation would be more concentrated though. They would have to put them somewhere where a hippie wasn't going to come by and eat like twenty though hahaha.




you could always bury the barrels in africa or iraqs desert.


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153251 - 11/18/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Not Responding said:
i say we nuke the Fuk. problem solved.




pfft, I am pretty sure that would spread the radiation like 20 miles further. Horrible idea. It would also put more radiation on the ground from the nuke itself.


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: mindgnome] * 2
    #19153254 - 11/18/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thats like, just an opinion man.


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNotTheDevil
Transhuman


Registered: 01/08/13
Posts: 5,436
Loc: US Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153256 - 11/18/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What you do is:
1,) stop the fission reaction
2.) remove the fuel rods
3.) remove as much contaminated material as is feasible
4.) grow radiation-accumulating mushrooms
5.) pick the mushrooms
6.) extract the radioactive substances from the mushrooms

After this you will have a much safer plot of land.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #19153261 - 11/18/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

in all seriousness....

im like 99% sure they have the top guys in the world working on this situation.

just sayin...

i guess it could be fun to think about if youre into that kinda thing, but i hope you guys dont actually believe what your are suggesting could work...


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19153262 - 11/18/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They definitely wouldn't want to extract the radiation because that would defeat the purpose of growing the mushrooms. They would want to put the mushrooms into a barrel made out of a material that was resilient to nuclear radiation.


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Edited by mindgnome (11/18/13 09:10 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153266 - 11/18/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah definitely...I never hurts to try to help out though. The scale of that mess is ridiculous. The people working on it are probably like "what the fuck?"


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: mindgnome] * 1
    #19153273 - 11/18/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

honestly, i quit reading about ages ago. it is what it is and what ever is happening or is going to happen is out of our hands. its kinda like death. i know im going to die, but i dont sit around thinking about it. ive done that in the past and pretty much depressed the fuck out of myself.

where is the fuk even at? any changes? last i heard it was hit by an earth quake.


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNotTheDevil
Transhuman


Registered: 01/08/13
Posts: 5,436
Loc: US Flag
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153286 - 11/18/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Not Responding said:
in all seriousness....

im like 99% sure they have the top guys in the world working on this situation.

just sayin...

i guess it could be fun to think about if youre into that kinda thing, but i hope you guys dont actually believe what your are suggesting could work...



You extract the radioactive materials, and then instead of needing like 1 million gallons of shielded storage space you need maybe like, 100.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblepassifloracaerulea
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/13/10
Posts: 10,485
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153301 - 11/18/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

bets on when this thread gets pushed to the conspiracy forum?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemindgnome
Wanderer


Registered: 10/30/13
Posts: 816
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19153306 - 11/18/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

but the mushrooms would already concentrate the radiation


--------------------
"As I walk on through troubled times my spirit gets so downhearted sometimes so where are the strong and who are the trusted? And where is the harmony? Sweet harmony. Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry. What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?" - Nick Lowe

"Psychedelic drugs don't change you - they don't change your character - unless you want to be changed. They enable change; they can't impose it...” - Sasha Shulgin


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #19153316 - 11/18/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

passifloracaerulea said:
bets on when this thread gets pushed to the conspiracy forum?




12:30 central time.


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineVsnares.Zappa
bend over


Registered: 05/04/11
Posts: 3,153
Last seen: 3 months, 16 days
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153328 - 11/18/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Not Responding said:
in all seriousness....

im like 99% sure they have the top guys in the world working on this situation.







Nah bro, nobody has a clue. :loldongs:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblepassifloracaerulea
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/13/10
Posts: 10,485
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Not Responding]
    #19153364 - 11/18/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Not Responding said:
Quote:

passifloracaerulea said:
bets on when this thread gets pushed to the conspiracy forum?




12:30 central time.



9:03 pacific.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIrfan
Stranger

Registered: 09/06/13
Posts: 180
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime] * 2
    #19153391 - 11/18/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I’m not trying to be an ass or anything; I just wanted to point out a few flaws with your logic.  It’s great that you’re thinking about this kind of stuff.

Radiation stems from instability in the nucleus of an atom.  Therefore chemical interactions (like metabolism for example) doesn’t affect the rate at which radiation is emitted.  Mushrooms that concentrate radioactive elements would retain them in the fruit body like everyone is saying.

Short of the fact that it would never work to begin with, nuclear fuel is probably the last thing you want to try and colonize with mushrooms.  Nuclear fuel is encapsulate by a highly non corrosive metal alloy, purposefully so because fission products (radioactive elements that are a byproduct of the fission process) are fairly nasty.  Even if urine could break this metal capsule down you would never want it to.  A breached fuel rod throws hundreds if not thousands of fission products into the environment.  Some of which are aerosols and go straight to the atmosphere out of reach of mushrooms forever.

Lastly, even if all of that wasn’t the case, the mushroom mycelium would never be able to survive close enough to a fuel rod to have a chance at metabolizing it.  The radiation levels are sufficiently high to cause enough DNA damage to kill the organism.  Lastly, the mushroom could never absorb enough fuel to become more concentrated with radiation than the fuel itself.  The fuel is already as concentrated as its going to get, your best waiting for it to cool off a bit (by that I mean decrease in activity) and then dispose of it they way we already do in a storage cask.

Mushrooms could be useful in fallout however..  When the release occurred, radioactive fission products were spewed across farm land and mountain ranges, resulting in a widespread dilute dispersion of radioactive elements.  If you could grow something in these areas that would bring the radioactive elements out of the soil and then carry that biomass away you could start to recover the soil in these areas.  Easier said than done however, different radioactive elements interact in a variety of ways in the environment.  For example, Cs-137 (a very common fission product) bonds to clay in soils.  So the likelihood that Cesium will be taken up by a plant or mushroom depends on the soil itself.  It readily liberates from sandy soil, and it is quite hard to separate from clay soils…

More likely what would be required is a multitude of different mushroom and plant secrecies that had an affinity for the different radioactive elements that you wanted to pull from the ground. This would have to be balanced with knowledge about how the soil retains the elements and how the plants or mycelium might break these forces down or over power them.  What we are talking about here is no easy task, think of the massive area of land this would need to be done on.  Not to mention that we lack much of the knowledge needed to do it…


Edited by Irfan (11/18/13 10:03 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblepassifloracaerulea
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/13/10
Posts: 10,485
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Irfan]
    #19153430 - 11/18/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you would also have fruiting temperature conditions which could never be met as some isotopes become liquid metal then gas in temperatures just above freezing. the amount of water exchange daily is astronomical. the contained atomic reaction is always supposed to be kicking off hydrogen atoms which are radioactive and known as tritium. this water could be colonized and filtered in tanks using many species of plants, animal, mushroom. as of yet we have no way to filter tritium waste water other than dilution.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIrfan
Stranger

Registered: 09/06/13
Posts: 180
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: passifloracaerulea] * 1
    #19153466 - 11/18/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You are right, tritium water is very difficult to deal with.  Primarily due to a phenomenon refereed to as hydrogen exchange.  Basically any material that comes in contact with tritium water exchanges hydrogen atoms with it, so eventually the filter or container becomes permanently contaminated with tritium because it has literally worked itself into the chemical makeup of the material...  Glass is good for tritium storage due to its low hydrogen content but its not really possible to utilize glass at the scale needed for fukushima.

A little fun-fact: tritium actually decays to He-3, a stable non radioactive isotope of helium.  Helium-3 is useful, rare, and thus valuable.  If the tritium could be isolated and then left in a tank to decay away to Helium-3, a large portion of the cleanup could be paid for..  Much much easier said than done :wink:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleNot Responding
Busted Liar...
Male

Registered: 09/17/13
Posts: 6,755
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #19153490 - 11/18/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Vsnares.Zappa said:
Quote:

Not Responding said:
in all seriousness....

im like 99% sure they have the top guys in the world working on this situation.







Nah bro, nobody has a clue. :loldongs:




:datass:


--------------------

Dear Kratom,

I've been numb for so long that I forgot how to feel
So I don't care if it will break my heart,
Just fuck me till I disappear





Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedontknow
It's all in the reflex


Registered: 07/05/13
Posts: 3,889
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #19153499 - 11/18/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Vsnares.Zappa said:
Quote:

Not Responding said:
in all seriousness....

im like 99% sure they have the top guys in the world working on this situation.







Nah bro, nobody has a clue. :loldongs:





--------------------
:box:

The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on folly. -Proverbs 15:14

:tripping2: :shroomer:  :trippinballs: :shroomin:

“Imagination is everything. It is the preview of Life’s coming attractions.”
Albert Einstein


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 65,499
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime] * 2
    #19153524 - 11/18/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This idea is the mushroom equivalent of stoners who think that hemp is the solution to all of the world's problems.


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKonyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Enlil]
    #19153536 - 11/18/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I saw a video that said

basically we get all the old sick dying and suicidal people and let them have at it cleaning the place up

eventually it will be done with and we can all go home


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 65,499
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Konyap]
    #19153538 - 11/18/13 10:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Right, because the old, sick, dying, and suicidal people are EXACTLY the kind of people we want handling an extremely delicate and dangerous task that has the potential to cause widespread harm to millions of people.


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKonyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Enlil]
    #19153559 - 11/18/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if left unchecked yea...


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKonyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Konyap]
    #19153564 - 11/18/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

they'd basically go in and dig

nothing your average high schooler couldn't handle


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblekoraks
Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 26,672
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153565 - 11/18/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
Don't ask me how I got my thoughts, they just are what they are.




Yeah: moronic. Sorry for being blunt like this, but you are either joking or just extremely ill-informed. Either way: dream on.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleschwarg
Male


Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 2,817
Loc: San Diego Flag
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: koraks] * 1
    #19153602 - 11/18/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

IMO we should build more reactors on the coasts near massive fault lines...sounds like a good idea to me.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleEnlilMDiscord
OTD God-King
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 65,499
Loc: Uncanny Valley
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Konyap]
    #19153631 - 11/18/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I see, so you think the fukushima reactors need only people with shovels to solve the problem.

Maybe you need to familiarize yourself with what needs to happen there before you start talking out of your ass.


--------------------
Censoring opposing views since 2014.

Ask an Attorney

Fuck the Amish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKonyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Enlil]
    #19153648 - 11/18/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

from my understanding it was a crisis


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegzuf
٩(̾๏̮̮̃̾๏̃̾)۶
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/13/09
Posts: 6,535
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153664 - 11/18/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They have people a lot smarter than you and I trying to figure out solutions, I mean other than being aware of it what is the point of trying to theorize solutions to something when you have 1000x less understanding of than the experts?


--------------------
+1 Post ٩(̾๏̮̮̃̾๏̃̾)۶



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineScriabinAnime
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 355
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 3 months, 23 days
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #19153691 - 11/18/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

4. the whole point of everything is how to make them exist. And not just after-fallout mushrooms, I mean radiating mushrooms. The radiation is used as energy for a mushrooms existence, and the total radiation drops with each mushroom


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIrfan
Stranger

Registered: 09/06/13
Posts: 180
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153704 - 11/18/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
4. the whole point of everything is how to make them exist. And not just after-fallout mushrooms, I mean radiating mushrooms. The radiation is used as energy for a mushrooms existence, and the total radiation drops with each mushroom




Not possible.  Mushrooms could only potentially move radioactive elements around, they cannot harness the energy of ionizing radiation.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblekoraks
Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 26,672
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153761 - 11/18/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
4. the whole point of everything is how to make them exist. And not just after-fallout mushrooms, I mean radiating mushrooms. The radiation is used as energy for a mushrooms existence, and the total radiation drops with each mushroom



No. Just stating nonsense repeatedly doesn't make it any more true. Get your head out of your ass already or just stop talking.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineScriabinAnime
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 355
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 3 months, 23 days
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Irfan]
    #19153783 - 11/18/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What about the molds that grew on Chernobyl's concrete walls under 1,000,000 rads, which was concluded to have used gamma radiation for cellular metabolism?



47:20 - 50:18


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIrfan
Stranger

Registered: 09/06/13
Posts: 180
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153837 - 11/18/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I miss spoke.  While the gamma radiation may be able to be utilized for metabolism, the fungus does not decrease the radioactivity. That fungus is not making the area less radioactive, it is simply benefiting from the radioactivity.  In a similar fashion plants may harness the energy from the sun, but they don't deplete the sun.  Likewise the fungus is not making the radiation decay away at a higher rate than it already is naturally.  In fact its not affecting the source of the radiation at all.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineIrfan
Stranger

Registered: 09/06/13
Posts: 180
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153926 - 11/18/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Also; the way he reported the radiation exposure is suspect.  "1,000,000 rads" is kind of a meaningless measurement; it’s an exposure when it should be an exposure rate.  For example, if the fungus was in the radiation field for 1 hr, and the exposure rate was 1,000,000 rads/hr then you could say that the fungus was exposed to 1,000,000 rads.  But the fungus lives in the radiation zone, it should really be reported as an exposure rate.  I can only guess that they took the exposure over the lifetime of the fungus to get a big number for more impact.

Say hypothetically the fungus lives 5yrs, ~ 8760 hrs in a year.
1,000,000 rads / (5*8760 hrs) = 22 rads/hr  Not quite as impressive of a number is it?

It's only proper to report radiation exposure rate unless the subject was exposed to the radiation field for a specified time duration, only then you can compute an actual exposure and then dose.  But again, the fungus has an ongoing exposure because it lives in the field.  Translation: while this dude may know a lot about mushrooms, I can immediately tell that he doesn't know much about radiation.

Without knowing what kind of arbitrary time frame they used to convert this from an exposure rate to an exposure, we really don't know shit about the radiation field that the fungus was actually found in.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblekoraks
Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 26,672
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19153987 - 11/18/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
What about the molds that grew on Chernobyl's concrete walls under 1,000,000 rads, which was concluded to have used gamma radiation for cellular metabolism?




I know about them. They don't neutralize radiation to any usable extent. And their use of gamma radiation for metabolism is a disputable theory in any case.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineScriabinAnime
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/15/13
Posts: 355
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 3 months, 23 days
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: Irfan]
    #19154284 - 11/18/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My theory disagrees


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebilly jowl
blah
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/11/12
Posts: 1,496
Re: My theory on how to completely handle the Fukushima Disaster [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #19154605 - 11/18/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
However, I was thinking how urine, a bioform product along with feces, could be used on the fuel rod; someone pisses on it.




This definitely would probably be considered, after all the japanese are notorius for always playing that joke where they put pp in your coke. :rimshot:


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Kratom Capsules for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Mix


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The Continuing Fukushima saga. (you thought it was safe now.)
( 1 2 3 4 all )
PassiveAgressive 4,917 66 08/18/11 08:19 AM
by pothead_bob
* Disaster at sea: global warming hits UK birds ekomstop 1,956 18 08/02/04 11:52 AM
by MyInsanityTrip
* Very interesting article on cigs, radiation, and cancer READ _Shrew_ 2,077 6 11/07/03 11:18 PM
by Quintessence
* Theory on why there are more BOYS than GIRLS @ shroomery w/ POLL
( 1 2 all )
PsillyNilly 6,170 35 11/13/04 05:22 PM
by abhi
* Possible Fukushima Fallout GGTBod 2,690 16 03/15/11 09:49 AM
by JesusGoneRogue
* TEPCO admits nuclear meltdown occurred at Fukushima reactor 16 hours after quake henk600 693 11 05/17/11 11:14 AM
by Rectangle 3D
* Moments of complete unfamiliarity RespectTheFungus 1,199 10 08/16/03 10:51 AM
by RespectTheFungus
* I thought my dishwasher could handle it!!! Shit... MOTH 1,112 7 03/22/04 11:54 PM
by MOTH

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
2,757 topic views. 4 members, 37 guests and 50 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.038 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.