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dstark
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FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin"
#19152817 - 11/18/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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For years we have been told that raw, crude marijuana plants do not meet the Food & Drug Administration’s (FDA) guidelines for a safe, effective medicine. Cannabis remains a Schedule I substance, deemed to have no medicinal value, is dangerously addictive and holds a high potential for abuse.Now, that same FDA has approved a new painkiller called Zohydro. This is a pill that contains 10 times the opioid hydrocodone as found in the often-abused Vicodin. Worse, the drug is the first approved hydrocodone drug that is not cut with acetaminophen or ibuprofen. Unlike the recently reformulated OxyContin, Zohydro does not contain any additives to prevent
Full story at Hight Times. (The site doesnt let me copy the article).
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NotTheDevil
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: dstark] 1
#19152896 - 11/18/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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dstark said:
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For years we have been told that raw, crude marijuana plants do not meet the Food & Drug Administration’s (FDA) guidelines for a safe, effective medicine. Cannabis remains a Schedule I substance, deemed to have no medicinal value, is dangerously addictive and holds a high potential for abuse.Now, that same FDA has approved a new painkiller called Zohydro. This is a pill that contains 10 times the opioid hydrocodone as found in the often-abused Vicodin. Worse, the drug is the first approved hydrocodone drug that is not cut with acetaminophen or ibuprofen. Unlike the recently reformulated OxyContin, Zohydro does not contain any additives to prevent
Full story at Hight Times. (The site doesnt let me copy the article).
Good thing they don't have acetaminophen, when used for chronic pain management, shit kills the liver
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Icyus
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19152941 - 11/18/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well many doctors administer scopolamine... the thing that causes loss of free will...
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Icyus]
#19152959 - 11/18/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icyus said: Well many doctors administer scopolamine... the thing that causes loss of free will...
Wtf? 
Back up yo claim...
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theonlysun81
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Lizard Eyes]
#19153038 - 11/18/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean......
yay!
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EdibleStereos
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Icyus]
#19153059 - 11/18/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Icyus said: Well many doctors administer scopolamine... the thing that causes loss of free will...
In very low doses it has medical properties as an antiemtic.
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NotTheDevil
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: EdibleStereos]
#19153079 - 11/18/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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EdibleStereos said:
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Icyus said: Well many doctors administer scopolamine... the thing that causes loss of free will...
In very low doses it has medical properties as an antiemtic.
I may be wrong, but isn't it also used in flight anxiety medications?
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: NotTheDevil]
#19153100 - 11/18/13 07:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Absent Minded]
#19153131 - 11/18/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow fuck high times. What a bunch of biased shits. "what's worse? The government doesn't lace your precious medical marijuana with gasoline to keep abusers from lighting it".
Thank god they didn't put acetominophen in it
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badchad
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19153178 - 11/18/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There are much more obvious reasons why MMJ isn't "approved". One simple reason is that approved medicines are incredibly consistent and have well-defined chemical properties. Most tablets are probably 99.9% similar.
All you have to do is walk into a dispensary, and you'll see there are hundreds of different "strains", with different chemical compositions. No approved medicine is like that.
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: badchad]
#19153216 - 11/18/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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badchad said: There are much more obvious reasons why MMJ isn't "approved". One simple reason is that approved medicines are incredibly consistent and have well-defined chemical properties. Most tablets are probably 99.9% similar.
All you have to do is walk into a dispensary, and you'll see there are hundreds of different "strains", with different chemical compositions. No approved medicine is like that.
Yes, obviously the current system of medical marijuana is completely poor form, but there are ways of isolating compounds and distributing them in tablets that would be consistent with the distribution of other medications. I have yet to see CBD or THC pills behind the counter of pharmacy's
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#19153225 - 11/18/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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smoking weed is the best
unless you have some extract which could very well save cancer patients instead of numbing them until they starve to death ...
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Konyap

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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Konyap]
#19153229 - 11/18/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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if weed wasn't scedule 1 they could do far more studies people clone plants all the time, I could get a CBD strain right now with NO THC! or vice versa
FDA and the Federal government are just biased shits when it comes down to it if you see one on the street let them know!
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Can-i-bus
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: badchad]
#19153422 - 11/18/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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badchad said: There are much more obvious reasons why MMJ isn't "approved". One simple reason is that approved medicines are incredibly consistent and have well-defined chemical properties. Most tablets are probably 99.9% similar.
All you have to do is walk into a dispensary, and you'll see there are hundreds of different "strains", with different chemical compositions. No approved medicine is like that.
Agreed, but cannabis is remarkably non toxic compared to most approved medicines.
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Can-i-bus] 1
#19153596 - 11/18/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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People are gonna abuse the shit out of Zohydro!
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: KingKnowledge] 1
#19153692 - 11/18/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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10 times the hydro with no apap? Sounds like a pretty fun pill
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Eminence]
#19154692 - 11/18/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This story just backs up why I hate the FDA, clearly their law passing is affected by greed. I wonder how much the pharm industry bought them off for? And about the thc behind the counter look up merrinol.
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badchad
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Can-i-bus]
#19155148 - 11/18/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can-i-bus said:
Agreed, but cannabis is remarkably non toxic compared to most approved medicines.
True, although the chemistry issues (e.g., a consistent, well-characterized tablet/product of known composition), are separate from toxicity.
That is, toxic or not, approved drugs still have to meet purity standards.
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: badchad]
#19155332 - 11/18/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a hypocracy I tell ya!
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Re: FDA: No to Medical Marijuana, Yes to "Super-Vicodin" [Re: Hudson]
#19155377 - 11/18/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I want that SUPER VICODIN!! AHHH!!
But naw seriously who cares Feds already cool with state medical marijuana..I'd love to see it go national but I think the market is better when some states stay anti-medicinal..
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