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Threshold Dose of DMT?
    #19152397 - 11/17/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone ever taken a threshold dose of DMT to produce profound thoughts and thinking? Probably more likely in a brew rather than smoking, as the onset would be slower, and the duration is longer and more consistent. But if it was smoking and had an insightful experience, please do share!

What did it feel like?
How well did it work?
Would you consider it useful to enhance some everyday activities? :peace:


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: LSDreams]
    #19152432 - 11/17/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My first time smoking dmt i only took one hit and got paranoid and quit i dunno why but i over came it.  Everything seemed to drift apart and i felt a wave of like a weird kind of euphoria but sedated and wanting to let go.  The cev's appeared but sorta seemed dead and still.  Noticed a change in hearing like more clear and could feel myself being sucked into the void but not fully and then being released from it and coming back


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: Fuckspice]
    #19152518 - 11/18/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting. So, physically you didnt feel very well? Same duration as usual, or shorter?


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: LSDreams]
    #19152567 - 11/18/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have a naturally high tolerance to DMT, and first began by working my way up. At around 10mg all I get is a relaxing body high (feeling of gentle waves of energy etc) and calm thoughts with no OEV/CEVs - I can still get up and walk around like this, just a little wobbly.

I wouldn't choose to do this in combination with everyday activities, but both myself and my GF enjoy these threshold experiences every now and then as a means to deal with stresses and promote a really great sleep afterwards. Actually my GF invariably starts to giggle and laugh during these trips because - according to her - she feels "funny", like her limbs are floating, but she doesn't report anything further than that (ie. no OEV/CEV)


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #19152681 - 11/18/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Very cool man! So is the relaxing body high actually pretty calm and subtle? Or is it more of a stimulant-like, tingly feeling?


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: LSDreams]
    #19153350 - 11/18/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like a waste of DMT in my opinion
You won't know if it's DMT or placebo/natural endorphins that you are feeling

Suggest taking a large enough dose so you know... But prepare for it

Set and setting...

Just my 2 cents


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: HarryL]
    #19155477 - 11/18/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not really a waste - if thats the high you're after then its great. Of course I like to go much deeper from time to time also. Definitely not placebo - I don't normally stagger around with a grin on my face (on the odd occasion I choose to or need to get up). Set and setting always important - I usually listen to some relaxing psyambient beforehand and meditate until I feel I'm ready.

IMHO, threshold dose of DMT is a better relaxant than MJ. Although I do acknowledge that many people report that threshold DMT trips are unpleasant, but its just the opposite for myself and my GF.

For me, the feeling is relaxing and subtle, not really a stimulant - kind of gives me an open headspace accompanied by a very gentle body trip. Sometimes I feel slow waves of energy pulsing through me, other times I get a warm feeling at the base of my neck, in other instances it feels like I'm being slowly washed back and forth by waves on a beach. With the right set/setting its a great aid in relaxing... and lasts just long enough to feel completely reset.

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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #19156260 - 11/18/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've taken DMT before multiple times (all orally) where I only received the threshold dose either due to poor usage/timing of MAOI or puking up the DMT (usually the brew) too quickly to absorb all of it, so I ended up with a partial dose (each time I was shooting for heavy dose but failed).

They can be pretty nice and mellow. I feel very lethargic even on a threshold dose. It can be hard to harness my thoughts still or steer them in a specific direction, but the thoughts I have can be pretty profound and pleasant. Last time I got a threshold dose and nothing more my thoughts seemed to appear in my mind like a slide show as I thought about them, but they were not hallucinations. Hard to explain.

It is a worth while endeavor in my opinion just to experience it and know what it's like.


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19157332 - 11/18/13 10:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Acknowledged. I wasnt aware that any of this would happen from a threshold dose. Also youre saying that you purge way too soon? Do you get nauseous instantaneously or something? What are you using for MAOI?


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: LSDreams]
    #19162497 - 11/19/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Acknowledged. I wasnt aware that any of this would happen from a threshold dose. Also youre saying that you purge way too soon? Do you get nauseous instantaneously or something? What are you using for MAOI?



Well the first 4 or 5 times I used MHRB in a tea form. Made me purge every time. Often I would purge right as I started feeling it. One time I took the same dose twice and purged after I started feeling the effects heavily and trip was immensely more powerful, it was very surprising.

I tried using caapi twice and both times I screwed it up. Pretty sure I didn't brew it long enough or use enough. Either way, I didn't get the effects. I have used syrian rue ever since and it never fails. I also stopped making MHRB tea because it is the worst tasting thing I've ever had and it makes me puke no matter what.

Now I use MHRB extract, directions for which can be found on Shroomery. The tek is by Ice House Shaman. It doesn't make me sick and I have just as good an experience as tea, or better. I just finished making another batch of extract a few nights ago. Out of 172g bark I used I got 54g extract
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I probably would've taken a journey yesterday or today but I am sick as heck in bed with a nasty cold. I use 3g rue (powdered in a coffee grinder) and then about 8-10g bark worth of extract. Usually falls in the 3g range of extract for a good intense experience, but i've had pretty strong experiences off of less.

edit: to clarify in case that sounded strange, to figure out the amount of extract I need for this last batch, let's say I want a pretty heavy experience so I want 10g bark worth of extract.

172g bark/10 = 17.2
54g extract/17.2 = 3.14g extract (for this specific batch)

I hear Caapi is a different experience than rue when used as an MAOI so I would still like to get some more and try to do it right.


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Re: Threshold Dose of DMT? [Re: V1rusH0st]
    #19167880 - 11/20/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry i responded late but the duration was much shorter only about 5 min and then the afterglow for maybe 45min


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