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First Time Grow! **12/24** Complete Loss
#19152636 - 11/18/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ordered a simple kit from MWG and inoculated my jars with lil spores syringes 4 days ago. Small amount of Mycelium growth. Very excited! I was going to wait a few days more before checking but I just couldn't wait any longer!! Using a aquarium heater in water with tote then the next tote on top for the incubator! So about how long will it take from here? Just curious on how often I should check them?
This calls for a bowl
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19152646 - 11/18/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your right on track. Give em a week and check on em. Chillax and enjoy yourself
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Bass808]
#19152651 - 11/18/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It will probably take around a month to see full colonization.
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Great thanks guys! Want some pics? I got a free PESA syringe with the ones I ordered. So I put some of my other with that in one of the jars. Know anything about this strain?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19152673 - 11/18/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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daltonvz said: Great thanks guys! Want some pics? I got a free PESA syringe with the ones I ordered. So I put some of my other with that in one of the jars. Know anything about this strain?
PESA is not a strain, it is a variety of cube.
Cubes are cubes....
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19152692 - 11/18/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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daltonvz said: Great thanks guys! Want some pics? I got a free PESA syringe with the ones I ordered. So I put some of my other with that in one of the jars. Know anything about this strain?
I want pics.
I know that the variety PESA will get you fucked up
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daltonvz said: Great thanks guys! Want some pics? I got a free PESA syringe with the ones I ordered. So I put some of my other with that in one of the jars. Know anything about this strain?
I want pics.
I know that the variety PESA will get you fucked up 
It got sent to me for free. Here are some pics. There are a couple slow ones, and some good movers too! Enjoy Super excited-->any helpful hints would be much appreciated! What can I do to have a better yield?


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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19157356 - 11/18/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn yours is doing better than mine my 1st to it's been 8 days I got about the same growth. I had bought Costa Rica cubes! So far so good what type of fruiting chamber are you going to try.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: NOTFALL3N]
#19157385 - 11/18/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am using the shotgun. Already have it set up. Just have to buy the extra vermiculite
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19157679 - 11/18/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Remove the foil already...this should have been done after sterilization.
The dry verm layer is your filter, and you want it to stay dry, so remove the foil so it does not absorb moisture from the substrate.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#19157814 - 11/19/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Remove the foil already...this should have been done after sterilization.
The dry verm layer is your filter, and you want it to stay dry, so remove the foil so it does not absorb moisture from the substrate.
I literally just got doing this. Is it alright to have it in my incubator with towels wrapped around it and inside another tote to keep the temp and light right? Is there enough GE happening this way?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19157816 - 11/19/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years. Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger. RR
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#19157852 - 11/19/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you for your help! Ill post updated pics in a week or so
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19159903 - 11/19/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Should I wait till my next batch to try and spawn to bulk? I have read that different substrate other than verm works best for this.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19176844 - 11/22/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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9 days after inoculation. Have one that is all the way down to the bottom of the brf. I have done a couple comparisons and seems as these are growing faster when in complete darkness all the time. Do they seem on track?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19176892 - 11/22/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its ms so your comparison is not very solid lol, but its looking good and I like your pic of frank in your avatar lol
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19176951 - 11/22/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still I just wanted to say it lol. Thanks
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19176961 - 11/22/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's probly what state he's in by now too lol!
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19176974 - 11/22/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know Frank but he sounds like a pretty cool guy
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19176995 - 11/22/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's the tc in your thread, and I'm sure he's a little wobly atm
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19177021 - 11/22/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am certainly not sober 
And I am a TC, aren't I? That still boggles my mind. How fucking crazy is that?
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Hi! 
Your jars look good
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Its fucking awesome that your a tc frank! I got your first post in my journal just to show some people how far one can come along in just a short couple years,shroomery fucking rocks, I don't even have a facebook anymorelol
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19177155 - 11/23/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the stamp of approval Frank. Ill keep it updated as I progress!
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19189741 - 11/25/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#19190069 - 11/26/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You say remove the foil after inoculation. Should I remove the masking tape on my jars as well?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Periscope]
#19190125 - 11/26/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Periscope said: You say remove the foil after inoculation. Should I remove the masking tape on my jars as well?
Doesn't matter as long as the masking tape isn't obstructing gas exchange. I'm assuming you mean that you put masking tape on for the boiling and then inoculated through it and left the holes open. If you applied fresh masking tape after inoculation then you should remove it.
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My jars are at about 80-85% colonization 17 days after inoculated. I am leaving this coming Friday for a week. I think the jars will be fully colonized Wednesday. My question is should I leave them be in their jars in the incubator for a full week without me being around, toss them in the fridge to pause myc for a week, or spawn to a bulk? Remember first grow, first cakes.
Ill post pics later today.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19211042 - 12/01/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If your jars are colonizing fine then change nothing. They will be fine for one week with or without incubation but absolutely under no circumstances should you put them in the refridgerator. Just leave them where they are and enjoy your vacation and FORGET ABOUT THEM while you're relaxing.
When you get home you will have a nice surprise of fully colonized jars.
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There have been so many discussions about putting them in the fridge to stall the myc. Then taking them out, letting get to room temp and birth them. They will be fully colonized by this wed just not consolidated, two days before I leave. Just worried is all, I would rather not mess them up.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19211794 - 12/01/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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daltonvz said: There have been so many discussions about putting them in the fridge to stall the myc. Then taking them out, letting get to room temp and birth them. They will be fully colonized by this wed just not consolidated, two days before I leave. Just worried is all, I would rather not mess them up.
Anyone??
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19213733 - 12/01/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Trust me dude. Just leave them. Don't put them in the fridge. They need to consolidate for a week after full colonization anyway. You have nothing to worry about.
Just to clarify, consolidation needs to be AT LEAST a week. Even RR says a month long consolidation is better. Your cakes are going to be fine.
You may even have some cute little pins when you get back.
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Don't bother refrigerating them. Many cultivators here even theorize that long consolidation leads to improved potency.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139#15181139
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: TheWiz]
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Pinning inside the jar is ok? That would worry me!
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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I don't think it hurts any. Just pick them off after birthing.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: TheWiz]
#19214207 - 12/01/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alrighty. Will do. Ill just leave them in the incubator for about a week n a half to consolidate.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19214261 - 12/01/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheWiz said: Don't bother refrigerating them. Many cultivators here even theorize that long consolidation leads to improved potency.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139#15181139
If this were true, pf cakes would always produce the most potent mushrooms for a given set of genetics, since we consolidate them for at least one week.
And wouldn't invitro pins be the most potent as well? 
This has not been the case IME.
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Future advice, from one to another(OP),
Make your own jars, don't do cakes in anything larger than 8oz, patience.
Jars are looking good bud. Probably would have been quicker if you had gotten smaller jars.
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TheWiz said: Don't bother refrigerating them. Many cultivators here even theorize that long consolidation leads to improved potency.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15181139#15181139
If this were true, pf cakes would always produce the most potent mushrooms for a given set of genetics, since we consolidate them for at least one week.
This has not been the case IME.
To clear up any confusion, I don't believe Frank was recommending refrigeration. Don't refrigerate them.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Forrester]
#19214681 - 12/01/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oops, good catch.
Don't refrigerate them.
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Alright I won't refrigerate. Thanks guys
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19241475 - 12/07/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello everyone!! I am gone from my babies till Thursday of next week. I left them with about a penny left to consolidate. I would really like to know how big of a monotub I would need for 6 half pints. I am planning on doing franks tel but I am not using quarts. But to be honest I have no idea how big of a tub to get to have about 4 inches worth of substrate? I am just having a hard time wrapping my head around how much vermiculite and coir I should use for 6 half's and also how big a tub I should pick up.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19241635 - 12/07/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't want to buy more half pints. So I just want to buy quarts to pasteurize in so I can move my future grows to quarts and not have all these half pints laying around.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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Did you need to make one of those still-air boxes for the inoculation? You know, a box with holes you stick gloves in?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Edgar Poe]
#19241744 - 12/07/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No sir, I used the oven method. Working great, just make sure you are using a lighter and rubbing alcohol after each inoculation.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19241855 - 12/07/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No sir, I used the oven method. Working great, just make sure you are using a lighter and rubbing alcohol after each inoculation.

The oven method is bunk....I would not recommend doing sterile work in an oven EVER.
The next best thing to a Laminar Flow Hood is still air, not a dirty oven that constantly has heat currents blowing contams all over your work.
Also, wiping a flame sterilized tool with an unsterile substance like alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower.
Flame sterilize between jars without wiping the needle with anything afterwards...just expunge a drop or 2 of spore solution to cool the needle prior to inoculation.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
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Edgar Poe said: Did you need to make one of those still-air boxes for the inoculation? You know, a box with holes you stick gloves in?
No sir, I used the oven method. Working great, just make sure you are using a lighter and rubbing alcohol after each inoculation.

The oven method is bunk....I would not recommend doing sterile work in an oven EVER.
The next best thing to a Laminar Flow Hood is still air, not a dirty oven that constantly has heat currents blowing contams all over your work.
Also, wiping a flame sterilized tool with an unsterile substance like alcohol is like wiping shit on your face after a shower.
Flame sterilize between jars without wiping the needle with anything afterwards...just expunge a drop or 2 of spore solution to cool the needle prior to inoculation.
Listen bud. He asked me what I used, so I told him..I don't need you being a dick on my posts. This option worked great for me because my oven was brand new never used. I also did not do it inside I set them on the door. So that the extremely hot air was blowing out and sucking into my hood system. Maybe answering my question would be a better use of your time instead of mocking my method. Which worked great.
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It's piss poor technique, discussed over and over here. That's all he was saying. I'm glad it worked for you though.
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It's piss poor technique, discussed over and over here. That's all he was saying. I'm glad it worked for you though.
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Think I'll stick with the tired and true methods, these new metas seem detrimental to new cultivators.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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Frank. Could you help with my questions? Not sure what to do.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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get a small tub, dump pints of water in it till you get your 4 inch mark, do the math
 i used 5 or 6 for this one, i believe it was only a 5 qt or something i can't really remember
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
#19272683 - 12/13/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spawned 6 1/2 pint of brf (gt) to 70% cow manure, 20% gypsum, 10% poultry manure. Going to case with MGMC. Brought to field capacity and put in mini mono/hybrid tub. Substrate was 70-80 degrees and 4" when mixed. Excited to see how it turns out.
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
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should have added verm, cow manure is heavy but
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
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I apologize I had the ingredients wrong. It was 50% cow manure, 30% medium verm, 10% gypsum, 10% poultry manure. It was nice and fluffy after pasterization.
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
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 that looks awesome but shouldn't those holes be covered during colonizing?
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: newera]
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 that looks awesome but shouldn't those holes be covered during colonizing?
I believe you still need proper ge during it. I have it wrapped in two towels keep it at good colonization temp.
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
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an imperfect lid is all that needed for ge, you might wanna do something about that or your sub will probly be dry or getting too much fae during colonization
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: cronicr]
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Just took care of it with some more duct tape and I will remove that during fruiting. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Bass808]
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Colonization begins at only a day and half after spawning. Must I be misting during this period or not?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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no misting,just patients
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
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Alright. Ill post another pic on Tuesday of next week. Thanks
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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Also, you may want to stop opening the lid to look/take pictures
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Forrester]
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Why?
Opening the tub to take a quick pic is not going to harm anything.
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Notahacker420 said: Opening the tub to take a quick pic is not going to harm anything.
I'm sure it isn't. I just meant in general, leaving it alone to do it's thing is probably better than opening it multiple times a day to check progress, like some people tend to want to do on their first grows.
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I dont open it everyday. I just wanted to see the progress make sure everything is ok. I have to agree with notahacker420 it doesn't hurt anything, but I don't know a lot yet and he hasn't led me down the wrong path yet.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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daltonvz said: I dont open it everyday. I just wanted to see the progress make sure everything is ok. I have to agree with notahacker420 it doesn't hurt anything, but I don't know a lot yet and he hasn't led me down the wrong path yet.
I'm sure he won't! Definitely keep following his advice
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: Forrester]
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Cool stuff. On your next tub, you're going to want to put a thick, black, plastic liner on the bottom of your substrate. You'll be fine on this tub, but make sure you don't have any light coming through the bottom. You'll likely get side and bottom pins/mushies regardless of having light from the bottom after your first flush. No biggy, just annoying. You can leave the bottom ones if you feel like it, they wont rot (so I've heard.) I'd really focus on maybe even putting another layer of plastic on the outside or another layer of duct ape if the tape you used is transparent at all. Some duct tape is. They make cool gold and silver colored tapes now that aren't transparent at all. Still, better to use a thick black liner because it will shrink with your substrate as it gets smaller flush to flush. Also makes it easier to dunk... depending on if/how you choose to dunk.
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Has about 7 layers of duct tape on it, found the tape laying around. Seen I would have light issues in the future.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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3 days of colonization. I think its looking pretty good! Cant wait to see what follows! How much longer do you think until fully colonized?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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If its come that far in 3 days it should be fully colonized in no time. Let it sit and consolidate for a couple of days after 100% colonization before you put in fruiting conditions.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: MudaFuka]
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Alright will do. Just needed some assurance and advice. Excited to case it!
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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What type of grow is this? Grain and substrate? Brf crumbled?
If its grain and substrate there is no need to consolidate I believe. You fruit it once it hits full colonization.
If its a giant brf cake, yes, consolidate for a week.
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Re: First Time Grow! **Updated with more pics** 30 days-Spawned [Re: daltonvz]
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6 1/2 pints of brf
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If its grain and substrate there is no need to consolidate I believe. You fruit it once it hits full colonization.
If its a giant brf cake, yes, consolidate for a week.
Consolidation is definitely mure important with brf cakes but a couple of days still dose grain good.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: MudaFuka]
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Alright, its been 11 days after spawn to cow manure. I am wondering if I should fruit at this point. In the first picture you can see some pins that are going to be starting in the very near future on the clump in the middle. In the second pic you can see some small pins beginning, I suppose I have about 15 of them scattered around the tub. To fruit or not to fruit that is the question.

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yep hurry up and fruit it
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
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I have a 10 foot rope light I'm going to string around the tub on a 12\12 timer. Think that will work? Then set the rest of the cord on top of the lid with holes in it. Should I mist right away too? Leaving a couple puddles of water on the mycelium?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
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This is my fruiting process, small fan blowing about 15 feet away towards chamber, I did mist the walls a tad bit. We Will see how it looks in the morning.
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This is my fruiting process, small fan blowing about 15 feet away towards chamber, I did mist the walls a tad bit. We Will see how it looks in the morning. Light attached to a 12/12 timer
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if you got nice beads of moisture on the surface there's no need to mist, let that dry up before you do and being that you have holes for a sgfc i'd say it's gonna be every hour or 2 but keep us posted on info like that so we know
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Have the fan oscilating NOT pointed towards the tub.
And misting the walls is pointless....we want humidity coming from water evaporating off the substrate....so mist the substrate and not the walls.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
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Why the tape on the bottom?,I don't see any holes in that.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: highc]
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Thank you. Its a monotub. Holes are above it. Please read my post.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
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Its a hybrid because the tub was so small.
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Its a hybrid because the tub was so small.
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Have the fan oscilating NOT pointed towards the tub.
And misting the walls is pointless....we want humidity coming from water evaporating off the substrate....so mist the substrate and not the walls.
I couldn't ever get my conditions dialed in just right with an oscillating fan. I just find a stationary spot where it creates a nice draft around the room. I usually blow it towards the corner of the room.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
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I suspect a ceiling fan would create a sufficient amount of flow in a given room in most situations?
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Alright guys. I haven't taken my duct tape off yet of the holes(its off right now for picture purposes). I misted and fanned today about 4 times. I had a few little pins develop around the tub and I just cased tonight. Here are a couple pictures, of the pins first and then the second picture is of the MGSC its about a 1/4 inch thick. Basically covering the myc. Now what should I do with it? Put it back into fruiting or leave it incubating for awhile?
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Its thin enough to fruit right away
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19313550 - 12/22/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From what ive read, it is best to let the casing partially colonize before you put it into fruiting (which is fine and many people do it). At a minimum, wait until you see the mycelium "break through" the casing in a few spots and then put it into fruiting. Patching these spots and waiting a bit longer is even better if you have the patience. But I also would listen to cronicr, he knows what hes talking about :P
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Should I mist the casing even if my substrate had very very small puddles of water before I cased??
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letterbomb325 said: From what ive read, it is best to let the casing partially colonize before you put it into fruiting (which is fine and many people do it). At a minimum, wait until you see the mycelium "break through" the casing in a few spots and then put it into fruiting. Patching these spots and waiting a bit longer is even better if you have the patience. But I also would listen to cronicr, he knows what hes talking about :P
Thats for thicker casing layers at1/4inch it would be colonized the next day so just fruit it,its common practice with species like pans Mist only when your sub needs it, if theres visible moisture thers no need to
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19313765 - 12/22/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you sir,should I do a thicker casing? I just read A quarter inch is kind of a sweet spot.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19313770 - 12/22/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No thats fine
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19318272 - 12/23/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No difference in cased substrate a day after besides the mgsc getting darker in spots(looking damp).
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19318285 - 12/23/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe I'm alone here but I'm not sure that substrate is going to fruit.
Thick fluffy mycelium, yellow spots, excess moisture. Looks like a real bad bacterial problem to my eyes
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Frank, that is very disappointing if that is true. I saw pins coming through before I cased. Its also not fluffy, that is some of the chunks that I couldn't get broken up well enough, also that picture is right after I misted.
Better picture of pins

Edited by daltonvz (12/23/13 08:44 PM)
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19318373 - 12/23/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those dots aren't pins..those are metabolites or possibly wet blotch
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So you think I'm shit out of luck? No one has said anything before??
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19318637 - 12/23/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry bud but hes right...we should have spotted that
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19318679 - 12/23/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, i was waiting, hoping to be wrong. But i took a close look and that mycelium looks like it is suffering.
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Anything I can do?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19318778 - 12/23/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not at this point. Wait it out.
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Alright, that's very disappointing. Think I had the substrate to wet?
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19318992 - 12/23/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Was that casing pure peat moss? Looks like seed starter w/o verm.
Yeah Frank. Looks bad. His substrate mix seems odd to me, but I don't know about working w/ poo so I may be wrong. 20% gypsum?
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It is miracle grow surface control put a 1\4 inch thick. This is extremely disheartening
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Maybe I'm alone here but I'm not sure that substrate is going to fruit.
Thick fluffy mycelium, yellow spots, excess moisture. Looks like a real bad bacterial problem to my eyes 
smell it
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: twistedty]
#19319114 - 12/23/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have, it smells a little like cow poo, but mostly mushroomy smell.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19319146 - 12/23/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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give it lots of fresh air and pray
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: cronicr]
#19319173 - 12/23/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: give it lots of fresh air and pray
lol been praying ever since you guys told me all of this Should I take the lid off?
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You asked if there is anything you can do.
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FrankHorrigan said: Not at this point. Wait it out.
Just fruit it and fan it out once a day.
If that doesn't work, it's not going to fruit.
Next time, make sure you use clean grain spawn and a more suitable (and properly pasteurized) substrate.
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Thanks Frank. I thought that I was using a suitable sub. I have heard great things from cow manure, and it was properly pasteurized I believe. I'll update ya'll a couple days after Christmas.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19320032 - 12/24/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Decided to cut into a little piece of my substrate and sure enough, horrible manure smell. Hardly colonized and wet as shit. Complete loss. I am not sure, I think that I may have killed the myc as it may have gotten to hot inside my closet. I know that I properly pasteurized the cow manure, but I will be doing horse manure this coming time around. 
Thank you for everyone's help through this, I probably should have just fruited my cakes so I had something...but I am a gambler-->all or nothing
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19320116 - 12/24/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel ya there with gambling. But you could always get into cultures, and keep one culture going for months.
So you never actually lose out :-)
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Your substrate sounds way too dense man. And it probably wasn't at field capacity from the sound of it. You'll get it next time. Just follow a successful substrate ratio. Once you get a few grows in, then start experimenting.
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Knowledge in failure Merry x mas bud
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No, it is certainly bacterial contam.
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That.
If you had a lighter substrate it would have probably been ok with that ratio... Not great but it probably would have worked.
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What do you mean by dense? I think it was to wet like you said. I pasteurized everything together. Maybe that is why? Mushrooms have not seen the last of me. Should have known better when it smelled like cow shit in my house. Thought that was normal with that stuff. I know horse shit doesnt!! Merry christmas to all. Happy tripping!
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19322090 - 12/24/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dense... as in too wet... not enough air in the mixture... all of the above.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19322205 - 12/24/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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daltonvz said: It is miracle grow surface control put a 1\4 inch thick. This is extremely disheartening
theres your problem. Miracle grow products contain fertilizer and a bunch of other crap. Even theyre perlite contains fertilizer. I haven't kept up with the thread so I don't know how you prepared the substrate and whatnot but I know using any miracle gro product in your grows will cause your shrooms to mutate or die
Your mycelium is probably dying from ammonia or some chemical in the miracle gro you used for casing, I don't think it can be helped at this point.
I wish scotts would go out of business. Theyre products are the most cheap, processed, chemical laden garden supplies on the market. Unfortunatly, theyre also the most popular.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: gman7104]
#19322283 - 12/24/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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gman7104 said: I wish scotts would go out of business. Theyre products are the most cheap, processed, chemical laden garden supplies on the market. Unfortunatly, theyre also the most popular.
And they are Monsanto's exclusive agent for the marketing and distribution of consumer Roundup, which causes all types of cancers and diseases.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: PussyFart]
#19322455 - 12/24/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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gman7104 said: I wish scotts would go out of business. Theyre products are the most cheap, processed, chemical laden garden supplies on the market. Unfortunatly, theyre also the most popular.
And they are Monsanto's exclusive agent for the marketing and distribution of consumer Roundup, which causes all types of cancers and diseases.
Go figure. One thing I hate most about this world is selfish corporate fucks who have the power to change the world, and they use that power to make themselves rich while everyone else suffers in some way.
I personally couldn't sleep for a second knowing the harm im bringing to others, if I was in that position. It's a shame how money and greed affects the mind, it's the same mechanism that causes crackheads to take a life for their next puff.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: daltonvz]
#19322631 - 12/24/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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daltonvz said: Decided to cut into a little piece of my substrate and sure enough, horrible manure smell. Hardly colonized and wet as shit. Complete loss. I am not sure, I think that I may have killed the myc as it may have gotten to hot inside my closet. I know that I properly pasteurized the cow manure, but I will be doing horse manure this coming time around. 
Thank you for everyone's help through this, I probably should have just fruited my cakes so I had something...but I am a gambler-->all or nothing
you mite consider a mix of 80%coir and 20%vermiculite next time coir is super easy to work with and fairly contam resistant.
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Re: First Time Grow! [Re: MudaFuka]
#19323849 - 12/25/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the advice!
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