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Snktido
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Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz.
#19147643 - 11/16/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So far what I have read from other forums about using White flour is to quit on plain WF+verm substrate, do not add fertilizers, but nothing in detail about salvaging WF or WF hybrid substrate mixture. Others claim that WF+Verm will fruit but magic potency will be weak or nonexistent but have not read any input results with gourmet strains. Im working currently with blue oyster, shitake, and hopefully King oysters (syringes are expensive and cant find any dowels for sale).
I am really interested in hearing about successful ventures with various substrate mix.
If you are not totally offended and would like to hear about my ventures and give inputs, Please read on.
To start, my noobish self accidentally purchased a few bags of WF off amazon and now am stuck with some. I know that Brown Rice Flour beats all. I intend to make proper substrate mixtures, but I wonder if I can mix some of that WF with other substrate. I have bird seed, cardboard, BRF, dextrose, wood dowels, honey. I do not want to waste the WF if it can be used in other mixtures.
This may be a critical noob move (chew me out if you want, would be fun to hear). Instead of using Liquid cultures from suppliers, I purchased colonized wood dowels (log plugs) since its at lease half the price. So far I am trying to so spawn some bags with it but I will have to wait a few days to see some results. My logic is that wood plugs in logs work, why not with any other substrate? Anyone with experience?
Also I have made some liquid cultures with the wooden dowels. I made some 50/50 malt+dextrose, 2 with H2O2 5ml/500ml with 4 dowels, and 2 without H202 and 2 dowels. For the first few days I saw no growth, and I read that adding glass can help so I added a piece to each jar on day 3. The H202 mix is starting to show clear mycelium growth. The ones without H2O2 got cloudy, I assume due to bacterial growth, but I think the mycelium is fighting back and its starting to clear up. I have never made LC before. Does lots of gas + and or weird smell mean bacterial growth? To my knowledge good LC should be clear with puff of localized growth and bacterial is cloudy. Most if not all forums never comment about the gas and smell of LC due to the fact that LC containers are never opened and are extracted with a syringe via self healing port.
What do you guys think about using colonized dowels? In my opinion, it can be used in various ways similar to colonized rye berries. It is definitely cheaper than buying spore syringes but I am not sure how the results will turn out.
I have only started experimenting with this project for less than a week. Still waiting on other supplies to arrive so I can proceed. I am on a very limited budget cause I am a poor person. Any money saving tips would be extremely useful.
If you have read this far, thanks for your patience and sorry if my terminologies are off key. LOL
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Snktido]
#19147671 - 11/16/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey bud WF Is for making bread but seriously Im a newb and haven't moved to edibles yet but I do know (from reading both forums every day) you will get a better response posting this in the edibles forum and yous the search bar for white flour before you do to see if it's been answerd.
Good luck in your endeavors.
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Snktido
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Rubestoad]
#19147741 - 11/16/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL I typed in brown rice flour and saw a great deal on amazon. I didn't read the product page and assumed it was what I wanted. I immediately went to check out. Got the product and realize it was white flour. Anyhow thanks for the tip XD.
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Snktido
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Rubestoad]
#19147748 - 11/16/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moving to gourmet.
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Psilicon
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Snktido]
#19149387 - 11/17/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you plan to do a lot of BRF in the future, consider getting a coffee grinder and grinding up some brown rice yourself. It's so much cheaper it's insane, and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the difference it makes with coffee as well.
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Snktido
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Psilicon]
#19152487 - 11/17/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilicon
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Snktido]
#19152541 - 11/18/13 12:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get the cheapest one at the supermarket. In general mushrooms aren't picky about which grain they like to colonize, so it's fine to use whatever comes to hand. Some people have even succeeded in making cakes out of ground-up wild bird seed.
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Snktido
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Re: Colonized wood dowels to LC/substrate, WF mixtures/Salvaging, other substrate ventures. Inputs Plz. [Re: Psilicon]
#19152586 - 11/18/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, I think I will go for the 15 lbs one which is cheapest per pound, and I can also eat some. I did add some birdseed blend into white flour substrate. I hope that does the nutrition trick. but yeah, thanks for the input.
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