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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19152050 - 11/17/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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blankk said:

:dumbass:



the rules of taking advise kinda breaks down, when no one in any one party is doing it. stop using this as any statement. go to previous posts to see me stating what i am stating now, in much more polite and seemly manner. oh and waht are you here for again? you wanna get in on this? i mean, what are you fighting me for? me insulting some of your e-friends?


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19152064 - 11/17/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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see, why can't you just leave him with his personal opinion? he thinks you're a nutter, but you don't see him trying to annoy you.




Because I have a really, REALLY hard time allowing ignorance to persist, especially when that ignorance is trying to spread itself like a virus and infect other minds.  You might consider that to be a failing, but I don't.



you fail to realize you're not perfect.




No, I completely recognize my limitations.  I am not a scientist.  I am an Android programmer, Vector graphic artist, pretty good at math, understanding abstract concepts, highly creative and intuitive... and that's about it.

I have four major advantages over most people, though:

1) I am extremely intelligent.  I don't want to put a number to it because IQ tests are misleading, but just know that I am not your average Joe.

2) I have been using the internet since 1989, am prone to self learning, love to read, and have a thirst for knowledge, facts and figures.  I tend to remember numbers very well.

3) I have cultivated an almost completely logical outlook on life and an eagerness to change my mind about things (if enough evidence is provided) in order to accommodate the volatile nature of scientific progress, and I make a concerted effort to keep up with the current state of understanding in the areas which are of most interest to me, although sometimes I fall short and find my knowledge outdated.

4)This is the most important one:  I actively root out any 'beliefs' I have about things on a daily basis.  I meditate, clear my thoughts and try to 'believe' absolutely nothing.  My opinion of the world is based on my understanding of the current knowledge of the scientific disciplines.  It does not matter how personally attractive or comforting I find a particular 'belief' to be;  if the evidence changes and points in another direction, I will adjust my worldview to match that new understanding.  I hold onto nothing simply because I WANT it to be true.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19152067 - 11/17/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hahahahhahahaha you keep telling everybody that they don't add anything yet here you are, not adding anything.  Stop being a huge fucking flake and defend your awful position.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: chutney]
    #19152072 - 11/17/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chutney said:
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akira_akuma said:


you people got to learn something (anything really) about how to pick your fights.

no one is denying that climate change exists or that humans may have caused it... people are however, asking for prove on how "things are only gonna get worse and we're DOOMED!"

explain that BULLSHIT, and maybe some of your detractors will listen to your drivel.





I see what you're saying man and I definitely agree. I was never here to spread gloom and doom, that was never my intention...

But these guys will NEVER listen to anything that runs counter to their opinions, no matter what. If you can't see that, then you might as well be out on the curb...

I genuinely mean that as non-offensively as possible btw.


i'm gonna post this up, so you fools can riff on what i originally said.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19152076 - 11/17/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I never said climate change or global warming wasn't real.  I just said I haven't seen valid statistical data that is correlated with all variables that affect climate change.

So until someone shits some valid statistics AND disproves any other hypothesis that could account for 'global warming' its just a hypothesis and the reason I say this is for one reason:

It isn't worth the country going broke and being regulated to death because of someones hypothesis.

Global Climate change/global warming et. al. needs serious scientific debate.  What it doesn't need is people slamming their assholes shut and saying "The Debate is Over' anyone who doesn't believe it is a moron."


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152078 - 11/17/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it doesn't fucking matter what you originally said, you are worthless to this thread.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152081 - 11/17/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not here to spread doom and gloom either. If I rained on your parade, that is on you. Seriously, look into Antarctica. It's gonna be like California come retirement time.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152082 - 11/17/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
you wanna get in on this?




get in on what?  there is nothing to get in on other than your flamboyant emotionalism.  i'll keep eating my popcorn, you keep on flipping out.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19152084 - 11/17/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
I never said climate change or global warming wasn't real.  I just said I haven't seen valid statistical data that is correlated with all variables that affect climate change.

So until someone shits some valid statistics AND disproves any other hypothesis that could account for 'global warming' its just a hypothesis and the reason I say this is for one reason:

It isn't worth the country going broke and being regulated to death because of someones hypothesis.

Global Climate change/global warming et. al. needs serious scientific debate.  What it doesn't need is people slamming their assholes shut and saying "The Debate is Over' anyone who doesn't believe it is a moron."





It's all over the internet, there are plenty of stats for you to digest.  It's so fucking sad that you are more inclined to mirror your politician's opinion than make your own.

It's actually more than sad, it is pathetic and disgusting.

The future of energy consumption is going to be based on renewable energy.  If you refuse to accept that, you're part of the reason America won't be a world power in 100 years.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19152086 - 11/17/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Schmendrick said:
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akira_akuma said:
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Schmendrick said:
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see, why can't you just leave him with his personal opinion? he thinks you're a nutter, but you don't see him trying to annoy you.




Because I have a really, REALLY hard time allowing ignorance to persist, especially when that ignorance is trying to spread itself like a virus and infect other minds.  You might consider that to be a failing, but I don't.



you fail to realize you're not perfect.




No, I completely recognize my limitations.  I am not a scientist.  I am an Android programmer, Vector graphic artist, pretty good at math, understanding abstract concepts, highly creative and intuitive... and that's about it.

I have four major advantages over most people, though:

1) I am extremely intelligent.  I don't want to put a number to it because IQ tests are misleading, but just know that I am not your average Joe.

2) I have been using the internet since 1989, am prone to self learning, love to read, and have a thirst for knowledge, facts and figures.  I tend to remember numbers very well.

3) I have cultivated an almost completely logical outlook on life and an eagerness to change my mind about things (if enough evidence is provided) in order to accommodate the volatile nature of scientific progress, and I make a concerted effort to keep up with the current state of understanding in the areas which are of most interest to me, although sometimes I fall short and find my knowledge outdated.

4)This is the most important one:  I actively root out any 'beliefs' I have about things one a daily basis.  I meditate, clear my thoughts and try to 'believe' absolutely nothing.  My opinion of the world is based on my understanding of the current knowledge of the scientific disciplines.  It does not matter how personally attractive or comforting I find a particular 'belief' to be;  if the evidence changes and points in another direction, I will adjust my worldview to match that new understanding.  I hold onto nothing simply because I WANT it to be true.



good. awesome. you're a standout. you can adjust your world view, accordingly, when nothing but a few big bad storms happen, and no big "climate change" occurs for the next decade... and you can study it too!

for real. seriously. i believe in you, because you've shown yourself to be nothing but completely concise and honest with your assertions and aren't peddling platitudes and self-righteous crap about how idiotic everyone is for not paying attention to a non-existent issue.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152095 - 11/17/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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good. awesome. you're a standout. you can adjust your world view, accordingly, when nothing but a few big bad storms happen, and no big "climate change" occurs for the next decade... and you can study it too!

for real. seriously. i believe in you, because you've shown yourself to be nothing but completely concise and honest with your assertions and aren't peddling platitudes and self-righteous crap about how idiotic everyone is for not paying attention to a non-existent issue.




And yet you add no intelligent discussion to the conversation.

Congrats.  You've proved your intelligence.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Hobozen]
    #19152098 - 11/17/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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blankk said:
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akira_akuma said:
you wanna get in on this?




get in on what?  there is nothing to get in on other than your flamboyant emotionalism.  i'll keep eating my popcorn, you keep on flipping out.



how do i stop flipping out. stop posting in this gay thread? naw, that's not it. so what makes me "less emotional"? agree with your e-friends? solely pandering to your world view? seriously, why do i even bother. we've never had a reason to speak ill of each other and now you're talk shit to me, because you see what that you don't like? whatever. you're basically parroting dissent for "my posts".

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:



good. awesome. you're a standout. you can adjust your world view, accordingly, when nothing but a few big bad storms happen, and no big "climate change" occurs for the next decade... and you can study it too!

for real. seriously. i believe in you, because you've shown yourself to be nothing but completely concise and honest with your assertions and aren't peddling platitudes and self-righteous crap about how idiotic everyone is for not paying attention to a non-existent issue.




And yet you add no intelligent discussion to the conversation.

Congrats.  You've proved your intelligence.



yeah, you can't keep saying that and have it mean any more then it did before. sorta like this most of this thread. i did add more then a nice kinda complimental post towards another user... i added the viewpoint that "you can't prove anything past a subtle change in climate warming due to human activity" which is a truer fact that any of the other "facts" presented in this thread

so i think i proved to give some quite good conjecture in this thread.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152101 - 11/17/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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get in on what?  there is nothing to get in on other than your flamboyant emotionalism.  i'll keep eating my popcorn, you keep on flipping out.


how do i stop flipping out. stop posting in this gay thread? naw, that's not it. so what makes me "less emotional"? agree with your e-friends? solely pandering to your world view? seriously, why do i even bother. we've never had a reason to speak ill of each other and now you're talk shit to me, because you see what that you don't like? whatever. you're basically parroting dissent for "my posts".





And your intelligence shows once again.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19152106 - 11/17/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:

It's all over the internet, there are plenty of stats for you to digest.






Then shit me some.  I will be glad to study them.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #19152111 - 11/17/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't debate climate-change deniers on the internet.  The evidence is easily accessible.  The preponderance is easily verified.  If you deny climate change, and it's acceleration by humans then you're ... well, I can't say what you are without being banned.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19152113 - 11/17/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
I don't debate climate-change deniers on the internet.



no, you just give us platitudes.
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BlindSophist said:
I'm not here to spread doom and gloom either. If I rained on your parade, that is on you. Seriously, look into Antarctica. It's gonna be like California come retirement time.



i never said you were. did i ever talk to you in this thread, before you berated talked to me? go look, did i? (well maybe you didn't berate me so much as you said people don't know wtf they are talking about, which i'd agree with, if anyone once stated that "climate change doesn't exist", which no one did)


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #19152116 - 11/17/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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good. awesome. you're a standout. you can adjust your world view, accordingly, when nothing but a few big bad storms happen, and no big "climate change" occurs for the next decade... and you can study it too!

for real. seriously. i believe in you, because you've shown yourself to be nothing but completely concise and honest with your assertions and aren't peddling platitudes and self-righteous crap about how idiotic everyone is for not paying attention to a non-existent issue.




Thank you for that, and as I said previously, I think you are a smart fella too.  However, at this point, with the direction this thread has gone, I think maybe you should take a few minutes, calm down and try not to react to some of the negativity being thrown your way.  Chill out, take a deep breath, and find your 'Spock' mode :smile:

Edit:  Fuck I wish I was capable of taking my own advice sometimes.  Emotions are a hard thing to control.


Edited by Schmendrick (11/17/13 10:05 PM)


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #19152120 - 11/17/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't debate climate-change deniers on the internet.





You said there are plenty of stats.  I want to see them.  Make a believer out of me.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #19152126 - 11/17/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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Mush4Brains said:
I don't debate climate-change deniers on the internet.





You said there are plenty of stats.  I want to see them.  Make a believer out of me.




www.google.com

Pretty fucking simple for someone who claims to be so fucking smart.


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Re: Are you guys seeing this weather report?? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #19152131 - 11/17/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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blankk said:
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akira_akuma said:
you wanna get in on this?




get in on what?  there is nothing to get in on other than your flamboyant emotionalism.  i'll keep eating my popcorn, you keep on flipping out.



how do i stop flipping out.




you can start by not investing so much emotion into your arguments.

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stop posting in this gay thread? naw, that's not it. so what makes me "less emotional"? agree with your e-friends?




^^ this is an example of you assuming things based on emotionalism.  none of these guys are my "e-friends".  you just like to think that way because i disagree with you.  and so you make shit up based on your emotions.


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