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Stopping Female Nagging
    #19152058 - 11/17/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Please, I beg you, for the love of God, share your techniques for putting a woman's nagging to an end.

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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up] * 1
    #19152091 - 11/17/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Certain aspects of this universe are simply beyond ones control.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Irfan] * 5
    #19152274 - 11/17/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Move out of your mom's house.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #19152348 - 11/17/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Listen to her?

Or beat her at her own game.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Lynnch]
    #19152412 - 11/17/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
Move out of your mom's house.



:lol: Yessss


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: The5thElement]
    #19152658 - 11/18/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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The5thElement said:
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Lynnch said:
Move out of your mom's house.



:lol: Yessss




Exactly. She probably nags you to do basic, simple things that you are SUPPOSED to do, such as washing the dishes or feeding the cat or whatever. The fact that you have to be nagged to do it shows that you have no concept of responsibility and expect to be taken care of hand and foot by your mom. You're an adult. It's time to do things for yourself.

I love you chicken soup, but I find this is pretty embarrassing. Even more embarrassing if this is not your mom, but your girlfriend that is the one that nags you to do things.


Edited by Crystal G (11/18/13 02:09 AM)


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19152726 - 11/18/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

codependancy*


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #19152732 - 11/18/13 02:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Say they are nagging you to do [task].  Tell them "If I hear about [task] ONE more time, I'm NEVER going to do it!"

It works for a little while but the nagging comes back, it's part of the breed.  Wives, mothers, girlfriends, coworkers, sisters, aunts, grandmothers, they all do it at one time or another.  For the first little while I just nod my head and agree, then I resort to what I stated above.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #19152759 - 11/18/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just take more shrooms and be gay, hang out with dudes all the time.

they're easier to get along with


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19153948 - 11/18/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Start nagging her.
ex,
yo bitch clean clean up yo maxi pad wrappers.

yo bitch, your razor burn looks like herpies.

yo bitch, shut up.

I wish you much success.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Anonymous #3] * 3
    #19154203 - 11/18/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody likes being nagged, but I feel that sometimes it is needed. Otherwise shit wouldn't get done, or it wouldn't get done when it needed to be. Sometimes we need others to get us off our ass when we're being too lazy.

If you don't want to be nagged, be one step ahead of your partner and get things done before they have a chance to think about nagging you. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19154566 - 11/18/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ch1ck3n.s0up said:
Please, I beg you, for the love of God, share your techniques for putting a woman's nagging to an end.





If you put up with it and she gets what she wants, she will continue to do it and it will be self-reinforcing.

If you don't put up with that behavior, it will stop.

Refuse to engage with her on that level.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19155331 - 11/18/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Say they are nagging you to do [task].  Tell them "If I hear about [task] ONE more time, I'm NEVER going to do it!"





Here's the question though. Maybe he never does that task if she fails to nag him. Or maybe he will eventually do it, but it will be like 3 months later, and the room will be a pigsty in the meantime until he finally does it. If she's nagging you every 5 minutes that's one thing. But if she's nagging you every 3 days to complete a simple chore, she's completely justified. I'm just curious about the circumstances of this nagging.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19155338 - 11/18/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:whatshesaid:


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Ballerium]
    #19155663 - 11/18/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nobody likes being nagged, but I feel that sometimes it is needed. Otherwise shit wouldn't get done, or it wouldn't get done when it needed to be. Sometimes we need others to get us off our ass when we're being too lazy.

If you don't want to be nagged, be one step ahead of your partner and get things done before they have a chance to think about nagging you. :cookiemonster:




No it wouldn't get done when YOU want it to be done.

When there's an actual deadline, guys are great at meeting them.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19155693 - 11/18/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
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ch1ck3n.s0up said:
Please, I beg you, for the love of God, share your techniques for putting a woman's nagging to an end.





If you put up with it and she gets what she wants, she will continue to do it and it will be self-reinforcing.

If you don't put up with that behavior, it will stop.

Refuse to engage with her on that level.




OMG yes.

When she stops nagging, give her a chocolate. To reinforce the good behavior. Play your cards right and you just might train her to be the perfect women


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Patlal]
    #19155832 - 11/18/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think its rather unfair that all the women so far have assumed that nagging is always justified because the man is a lazy PoS. Its just as likely that the women is a nagging bitch :shrug:
skip to 2:30 he gives a pretty funny male perspective on women nagging haha


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19156172 - 11/18/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Say they are nagging you to do [task].  Tell them "If I hear about [task] ONE more time, I'm NEVER going to do it!"





Here's the question though. Maybe he never does that task if she fails to nag him. Or maybe he will eventually do it, but it will be like 3 months later, and the room will be a pigsty in the meantime until he finally does it. If she's nagging you every 5 minutes that's one thing. But if she's nagging you every 3 days to complete a simple chore, she's completely justified. I'm just curious about the circumstances of this nagging.




Or maybe he already did the shit and she just doesn't know what she's talking about.  Or maybe he already told her when he would do the task but she keeps nagging anyway because she wasn't listening.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: psyconaught]
    #19162365 - 11/19/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think its rather unfair that all the women so far have assumed that nagging is always justified because the man is a lazy PoS. Its just as likely that the women is a nagging bitch :shrug:
skip to 2:30 he gives a pretty funny male perspective on women nagging haha




:lol:

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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19162538 - 11/19/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Or maybe he already did the shit and she just doesn't know what she's talking about.




If he already did it then she wouldn't be nagging, the conversation would go more like this:

"Did you turn in those documents that were due today?"
"Yes honey I did it."
"Oh. Okay."

End of conversation. :facepalm:

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Or maybe he already told her when he would do the task but she keeps nagging anyway because she wasn't listening.




Unlikely. If he did set a date, he would have simply responded, "I told you I am going to do it on this date," and that would be the end of the nagging. The word NAGGING implies repetitive pestering to get somebody to do something. The fact that somebody has to nag means the person being nagged fails to respond by agreeing to do it at a certain date, or fails to do it at all, or continually postpones doing it.

FYI, I'm usually the one getting nagged by everybody else because I'm the ultimate procrastinator and fail-to-do almost everything on time unless it's super duper important, so I know what I'm talking about. :lol:

But to be frank, I am the kind of person that NEEDS to be nagged in order to get anything done. If I don't have somebody reminding me, or pushing me, it will pretty much NEVER get finished. Or it will get finished like 6 months later when I FINALLY remember to do it. A little pushing helps people who are lazy and completely unmotivated deep-down and forgetful with their memory.

I am the kind of person that probably would fail to plan my own wedding, and I'd postpone it until like 3 days before the ceremony, until I'd realize that all venues would completely booked by then, and then I'd have to get married at a public park or beach somewhere because I'm so shitty of a planner.

I've also been procrastinating applying for Obamacare, and I meant to do it like 3 months ago. I should probably do it now.... nah, I'll do it next week. :lol:


Edited by Crystal G (11/19/13 10:19 PM)


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19162555 - 11/19/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Anonymous said:
Or maybe he already did the shit and she just doesn't know what she's talking about.




If he already did it then she wouldn't be nagging, the conversation would go more like this:

"Did you turn in those documents that were due today?"
"Yes honey I did it."
"Oh. Okay."

End of conversation. :facepalm:

Quote:

Or maybe he already told her when he would do the task but she keeps nagging anyway because she wasn't listening.




Unlikely. If he did set a date, he would have simply responded, "I told you I am going to do it on this date," and that would be the end of the nagging. The word NAGGING implies repetitive pestering to get somebody to do something. The fact that somebody has to nag means the person being nagged fails to respond by agreeing to do it at a certain date, or fails to do it at all, or continually postpones doing it.

FYI, I'm usually the one getting nagged by everybody else because I'm the ultimate procrastinator and fail-to-do almost everything on time unless it's super duper important, so I know what I'm talking about. :lol:



god forbid a female be in the wrong for once :lol: impatient bitch? Fucking impossible! Lazy good for nothing man? Most definitely!


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: psyconaught]
    #19162615 - 11/19/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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god forbid a female be in the wrong for once :lol: impatient bitch? Fucking impossible! Lazy good for nothing man? Most definitely!




Are you fucking retarded? First of, NOT ALL FEMALES ARE THE ONES THAT NAG. MALES NAG ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY AT WORK, AND FRANKLY IF NAGGING DIDN'T EXIST NOTHING WOULD GET DONE IN THE CORPORATION EITHER.

Did you not read where I said I'M THE ONE THAT'S USUALLY GETTING NAGGED? I, A WOMAN, AM USUALLY THE ONE IN THE WRONG WHEN IT COMES TO FINISHING IMPORTANT TASKS. Unlike OP however, I RECOGNIZE that I'm a forgetful and lazy person, and I am actually grateful when somebody reminds me to do something.

If I hadn't been nagged, I never would have developed the work ethic that I have today. If I hadn't been nagged, I never would have gone to school, I never would have practiced piano, I never would have done my homework, I never would have paid my medical bills, and I would never have gone to get my yearly physical done at the doctor's. Nagging is often a good thing.

This is what I said in case you missed it:

FYI, I'm usually the one getting nagged by everybody else because I'm the ultimate procrastinator and fail-to-do almost everything on time unless it's super duper important, so I know what I'm talking about. 

But to be frank, I am the kind of person that NEEDS to be nagged in order to get anything done. If I don't have somebody reminding me, or pushing me, it will pretty much NEVER get finished. Or it will get finished like 6 months later when I FINALLY remember to do it. A little pushing helps people who are lazy and completely unmotivated deep-down and forgetful with their memory.

I am the kind of person that probably would fail to plan my own wedding, and I'd postpone it until like 3 days before the ceremony, until I'd realize that all venues would completely booked by then, and then I'd have to get married at a public park or beach somewhere because I'm so shitty of a planner.

I've also been procrastinating applying for Obamacare, and I meant to do it like 3 months ago. I should probably do it now.... nah, I'll do it next week. :lol:


Edited by Crystal G (11/19/13 10:30 PM)


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19162656 - 11/19/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

good for you getting nagged all the time?

i was responding to your auto response about the man being in the wrong. Without even taking into account both possible sides.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: psyconaught]
    #19162664 - 11/19/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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good for you getting nagged all the time?

i was responding to your auto response about the man being in the wrong. Without even taking into account both possible sides.




This is what I said.


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Anonymous said:
Say they are nagging you to do [task].  Tell them "If I hear about [task] ONE more time, I'm NEVER going to do it!"





Here's the question though. Maybe he never does that task if she fails to nag him. Or maybe he will eventually do it, but it will be like 3 months later, and the room will be a pigsty in the meantime until he finally does it. If she's nagging you every 5 minutes that's one thing. But if she's nagging you every 3 days to complete a simple chore, she's completely justified. I'm just curious about the circumstances of this nagging.




Quote:

The word NAGGING implies repetitive pestering to get somebody to do something. The fact that somebody has to nag means the person being nagged fails to respond by agreeing to do it at a certain date, or fails to do it at all, or continually postpones doing it.




NOWHERE did I bring man or woman into this. I used the definition of the word "nagging" and used the word "circumstance" to make my point. The fact that OP fails to elaborate on the details of this nagging, inclines me to believe that he might be the one who is in the wrong.

If he were being responsible, he would have come on here and defended himself and explained the situation. Yet, he didn't. All he did was +1 some stupid-ass video about women being nags. Or whatever that video was. I don't know, I didn't watch it. But his reaction sounds more like somebody who is irresponsible, yet continually wants to blame others for their lack of responsibility. I used to do the exact same thing when I was young.

Are you REALLY going to turn this into a feminist "woman can do no wrong" thing, because you fail to understand what I'm writing?


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: psyconaught]
    #19163354 - 11/20/13 02:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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psyconaught said:
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Crystal G said:
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Or maybe he already did the shit and she just doesn't know what she's talking about.




If he already did it then she wouldn't be nagging, the conversation would go more like this:

"Did you turn in those documents that were due today?"
"Yes honey I did it."
"Oh. Okay."

End of conversation. :facepalm:

Quote:

Or maybe he already told her when he would do the task but she keeps nagging anyway because she wasn't listening.




Unlikely. If he did set a date, he would have simply responded, "I told you I am going to do it on this date," and that would be the end of the nagging. The word NAGGING implies repetitive pestering to get somebody to do something. The fact that somebody has to nag means the person being nagged fails to respond by agreeing to do it at a certain date, or fails to do it at all, or continually postpones doing it.

FYI, I'm usually the one getting nagged by everybody else because I'm the ultimate procrastinator and fail-to-do almost everything on time unless it's super duper important, so I know what I'm talking about. :lol:



god forbid a female be in the wrong for once :lol: impatient bitch? Fucking impossible! Lazy good for nothing man? Most definitely!




Thank you!:thumbup:  That is exactly the point I was making, I had to post anonymously though, as I knew Crystal would pounce on anyone trying to make that point (like she has you).

Your explanations assume thought goes into nagging or before nagging.  In my experience, this is just simply not the case.  Females nag when they don't know what's going on, or what they are talking about, or what the circumstances are so don't act like women don't nag about shit when it has already been handled and they are just unaware.

I like you Crystal, I really do.  You just need to see other people's point of view here.:shrug:


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19163890 - 11/20/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why would somebody nag about something they have no authority or knowledge over? Maybe you can provide an actual example that has happened illustrating this so others can understand what you are saying.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Crystal G]
    #19163925 - 11/20/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Why would somebody nag about something they have no authority or knowledge over? Maybe you can provide an actual example that has happened illustrating this so others can understand what you are saying.





Nagging can be a form of bullying.

Sometimes when nothing is wrong, people have to make stuff up.

Other times nagging acceptable and helpful.  OP didn't specify the cause of his nagging problems, just asked how to make it stop.

One way to make it stop is to make sure you have everything done.  This stops some naggers, but not all.

If you let people treat you like crap, they will keep doing it.  People who put up with nagging that they do not deserve are part of the problem.


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Re: Stopping Female Nagging [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #19163974 - 11/20/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Nagging can be a form of bullying.

Sometimes when nothing is wrong, people have to make stuff up.

Other times nagging acceptable and helpful.  OP didn't specify the cause of his nagging problems, just asked how to make it stop.

One way to make it stop is to make sure you have everything done.  This stops some naggers, but not all.

If you let people treat you like crap, they will keep doing it.  People who put up with nagging that they do not deserve are part of the problem.




I understand this. Maybe chicken soup can clarify the circumstances surrounding the nagging. What does she nag about, are they simple things she nags about such as vacuuming the house or putting the dishes away, how often does she nag about them, is she irate when she nags or just asking calmly, do you do what she nags you to do, and does she continue to nag despite you doing these things?


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