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Rafiikii


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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19154473 - 11/18/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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im pretty sure dispensaries allow up to a certain PPM (parts per million) of contaminates in there concentrates.
regardless this number is incredibly small, and methods are only getting more advanced
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Heisenburn
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: fungusmuncher]
#19154730 - 11/18/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's all I'll be smoking tonight. 2 more months to go.
Hang in there
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Moorning Due
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19154748 - 11/18/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heisenburn said:
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fungusmuncher said:

That's all I'll be smoking tonight. 2 more months to go.
Hang in there
Yeah, I had to quit for 3 years once for probation. Sucked ass... Quit cigs about 6 months ago (who's counting?) and haven't turned back.
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Heisenburn
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Rafiikii]
#19154765 - 11/18/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rafiikii said: im pretty sure dispensaries allow up to a certain PPM (parts per million) of contaminates in there concentrates.
regardless this number is incredibly small, and methods are only getting more advanced
^ what he said. Finally someone that has a brain that hasn't reached its intellectual capacity!
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Moorning Due
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19154802 - 11/18/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heisenburn said:
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Rafiikii said: im pretty sure dispensaries allow up to a certain PPM (parts per million) of contaminates in there concentrates.
regardless this number is incredibly small, and methods are only getting more advanced
^ what he said. Finally someone that has a brain that hasn't reached its intellectual capacity!
Honestly man, the only way you would be 100% sure is to make your own and then get that tested, because let's face it, even though these are "Legal" dispensaries for MMJ, it's still a high risk field and there are ALWAYS going to be people looking to make a quick buck, including long time dispensaries. Also, people make mistakes.. I trust my sources, they want me to come back and are truly compassionate and are looking out for their patients. Plain and simple, don't buy shit from people you don't trust.
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19154814 - 11/18/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I make my own but don't test it. I heat purge then vac purge for 24hrs and yes I'm aware that there are still tiny amounts but that's the same amount or less than when smoking with a butane lighter
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BIGS
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19154854 - 11/18/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bro you are so incorrect. Just because a dispensary tells you its vac purged doesnt mean there are no impurities left behind.
BHO, the butane most folks use will leave behind a residual oil. When you extract BHO you area also pulling out plant waxes and so forth. You are still left some some impurities, unless youve seen the product made yourself or made it yourself, you cant say for sure if that product is clean or not, and by looking at the pics you posted of the nasty ass budder balls, makes me feel sad for you. Clean purged Shatter over anything else.
BHO can be harmful if the person making it doesnt know what they are doing, and most do not. Living in Cali i cant tell you 90% of the BHO out here is Garbage, butane filled and plant wax infested. Only a few extract artist out here get the true stamp of approval for good clean BHO.
Yes, some folks allow your concentrates to be at a low PPM, but test vary from place to place. and some places give you the "all clear" when you are in the 1000-1500ppm range, which IMO is still way to fucking high.
When all else fails, stick to High quality Ice water Extracts
Edited by BIGS (11/18/13 03:44 PM)
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: BIGS]
#19154877 - 11/18/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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nexxone said: yeah dabs are cool i guess, i personally have concerns about butane tho. granted i have no scientific data behind my concerns, but i also have no data that says its safe either so i keep it to a very very occasional thing. plus why smoke bho when u can taste grapes lol
Do you use a lighter? If so you inhale more butane than I do and it's also not harmful you can research it.... Why would every dispensary sell it? If it is vacuum purged after it is heat purged there are no impurities left in the product so how do you consider it unsafe?
bro you are so incorrect. Just because a dispensary tells you its vac purged doesnt mean there are no impurities left behind.
BHO, the butane most folks use will leave behind a residual oil. When you extract BHO you area also pulling out plant waxes and so forth. You are still left some some impurities, unless youve seen the product made yourself or made it yourself, you cant say for sure if that product is clean or not, and by looking at the pics you posted of the nasty ass budder balls, makes me feel sad for you. Clean purged Shatter over anything else.
BHO can be harmful if the person making it doesnt know what they are doing, and most do not. Living in Cali i cant tell you 90% of the BHO out here is Garbage, butane filled and plant wax infested. Only a few extract artist out here get the true stamp of approval for good clean BHO.
When all else fails, stick to High quality Ice water Extracts
That was before it went into the vac. When my product is finished I have honeycomb wax. I'm not here to argue. I know the quality of my product. It's completely clear when it's shatter then it goes longer and goes into wax. None of what I produce is GARBAGE. Your ego is now getting in the way of your intelligence, I feel sorry for you.
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19155236 - 11/18/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You say your not here to argue but you provide no scientific facts about concentrate production
Shatter shouldnt ever turn into Wax/honeycomb, you are using to much heat But then again you probably dont even have a Vac Oven, to truly know how much heat you are using
WHO in there right mind puts un-purged product in Oil slick balls and takes photos of "what there smoking on", you arent fooling anyone Shit should be thinned out and on some parchment in the Vac oven, not in personal consumption containers
Honeycomb/wax still contain by products/ Plant fats and waxes trapped in them and are not truly clean Unless you paid to have your products test by a trusted Test lab, you cant say you know the quality of your product, please stop fooling yourself
Your pseudo intellect is your biggest down fall, Youtube videos are not meant to teach you how to make concentrates. When you collapse a lung from your GARBAGE, youll see how wrong you are in a painful way
Shatter > Wax all day
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Heisenburn
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: BIGS]
#19155484 - 11/18/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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BIGS said: You say your not here to argue but you provide no scientific facts about concentrate production
Shatter shouldnt ever turn into Wax/honeycomb, you are using to much heat But then again you probably dont even have a Vac Oven, to truly know how much heat you are using
WHO in there right mind puts un-purged product in Oil slick balls and takes photos of "what there smoking on", you arent fooling anyone Shit should be thinned out and on some parchment in the Vac oven, not in personal consumption containers
Honeycomb/wax still contain by products/ Plant fats and waxes trapped in them and are not truly clean Unless you paid to have your products test by a trusted Test lab, you cant say you know the quality of your product, please stop fooling yourself
Your pseudo intellect is your biggest down fall, Youtube videos are not meant to teach you how to make concentrates. When you collapse a lung from your GARBAGE, youll see how wrong you are in a painful way
Shatter > Wax all day
Your are more likely going to collapse a lung from combusting dried plant material than smoking BHO or wax. I was a medic and you can stop being a jackass think you know it all. No fucking shit you spread it out on parchment and yes I do have a real vac I don't have some jerry rigged mason jar shit that you see all over YouTube. I have a pro vac. Stop talking your shit and show me your extracts. Better yet, just shut the fuck up. I gave your props for thinking you had intelligence but clearly you lack every bit of what you think you have by judging me based on what you saw in a picture. I can read you like a book. Pseudo intellect? I'm just gonna stop at that. Considering that all of your knowledge probably came from the money that mommy and daddy put your bitchass through school with. I worked for my shit, fought for my country and saved lives. I earned my college education and you want to ramble on about how my shit looks bad and you feel sorry for me? You are the exact reason Muslims hate this country. You don't appreciate anything not even the comment I gave you about your intelligence. Go crawl in a hole.
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19155603 - 11/18/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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By the way, it never goes above 120 degrees
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Moorning Due
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19157805 - 11/19/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Godfather1376
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19157829 - 11/19/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heisenburn said:
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nexxone said: yeah dabs are cool i guess, i personally have concerns about butane tho. granted i have no scientific data behind my concerns, but i also have no data that says its safe either so i keep it to a very very occasional thing. plus why smoke bho when u can taste grapes lol
Do you use a lighter? If so you inhale more butane than I do and it's also not harmful you can research it.... Why would every dispensary sell it? If it is vacuum purged after it is heat purged there are no impurities left in the product so how do you consider it unsafe?
bro you are so incorrect. Just because a dispensary tells you its vac purged doesnt mean there are no impurities left behind.
BHO, the butane most folks use will leave behind a residual oil. When you extract BHO you area also pulling out plant waxes and so forth. You are still left some some impurities, unless youve seen the product made yourself or made it yourself, you cant say for sure if that product is clean or not, and by looking at the pics you posted of the nasty ass budder balls, makes me feel sad for you. Clean purged Shatter over anything else.
BHO can be harmful if the person making it doesnt know what they are doing, and most do not. Living in Cali i cant tell you 90% of the BHO out here is Garbage, butane filled and plant wax infested. Only a few extract artist out here get the true stamp of approval for good clean BHO.
When all else fails, stick to High quality Ice water Extracts
That was before it went into the vac. When my product is finished I have honeycomb wax. I'm not here to argue. I know the quality of my product. It's completely clear when it's shatter then it goes longer and goes into wax. None of what I produce is GARBAGE. Your ego is now getting in the way of your intelligence, I feel sorry for you.
Heisen, have you heard about winterization processes? They remove those exact plant waxes that he's talking about. Look up some of Bret Maverick's work in WA. I forget the exact equipment, but it has specialized scientific filters keeping lipids and such from the oil. As far as plant waxes go, I am not completely against them. They could have some value and the end result hash is "purer" than smoking bud. My main concern is keeping butane PPMs down. While I'm sure people get more from a lighter, when I vaporize I want as little solvent residue as possible.
Like I said, I am not knocking your "product", I bet it's bomb and tastes awesome, I'm just saying there are still impurities in just every batch of oil. We extractors try to avoid that as much as possible, some go the extra mile.
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Rafiikii


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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Godfather1376]
#19157839 - 11/19/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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anybody heard of a certain dispensaries new "clear concentrates"?
apparently solvent free
https://www.harborsidehealthcenter.com/the-clear-concentrates.html
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Rafiikii]
#19157936 - 11/19/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every extraction process uses some kind of solvent. Water, CO2, butane, even propane or O2 oil can be made. They just don't say what it is, but I assume if they are trying to "stay solvent free" its O2 or CO2, which IMO don't always make the best oil. It might test high, but most CO2 oil is definitely not as good as well done BHO.
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Moorning Due
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Godfather1376]
#19157966 - 11/19/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not that they don't use a solvent (they don't actually say this), it's clever marketing and probably really clean product (haven't tried it). They merely say that the product is "Solvent Free"... Using a younger (immature tric imho) buds from various strains will give you that golden light oil very consistently. Not worth $60/gm. but probably pretty good.
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Rafiikii]
#19158084 - 11/19/13 02:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rafiikii said: anybody heard of a certain dispensaries new "clear concentrates"?
apparently solvent free
https://www.harborsidehealthcenter.com/the-clear-concentrates.html
that stuff is INSANE... from what ive heard 
great flavor, and the potency is unreal apparently
Edited by c0exist (11/19/13 02:28 AM)
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Moorning Due]
#19158088 - 11/19/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moorning Due said: It's not that they don't use a solvent (they don't actually say this), it's clever marketing and probably really clean product (haven't tried it). They merely say that the product is "Solvent Free"... Using a younger (immature tric imho) buds from various strains will give you that golden light oil very consistently. Not worth $60/gm. but probably pretty good.
i dont know much about butane making admittedly, but i insist that you try it before you knock it.
like i stated before, its flavorful, and its clean, there is NO burnout, you just very calmly go back to sober. unless you smoke too much. then you go to bed.
might as well contribute though

Edited by c0exist (11/19/13 02:49 AM)
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Heisenburn
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: c0exist]
#19159129 - 11/19/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is always going to be a little impurity but not enough that it's going to cause any concern that's all I was trying to say
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Heisenburn
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Re: This is what I am smoking tonight.... How about you?? [Re: Heisenburn]
#19159135 - 11/19/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have a better chance of a person not seasoning their nail and harming themselves that way then smoking wax. I think as long as you know what you're doing you're fine
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