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underfliptown
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What's the best mushroom strain? 1
#19151738 - 11/17/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's the best strain of mushroom?
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151742 - 11/17/13 08:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151744 - 11/17/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151745 - 11/17/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19151749 - 11/17/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Read the rules. 6. Do NOT ask strain questions in cultivation. There is a sticky thread at the top of the page for such nonsense. 'Strain' in mushrooms is not the same as strain in pot growing, thus we keep 'strain talk' sequestered in it's own dungeon so people won't think it actually matters.
Provided courtesy of RR.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: Cavemen]
#19151752 - 11/17/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151761 - 11/17/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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JMcDoogle said: Read the rules. 6. Do NOT ask strain questions in cultivation. There is a sticky thread at the top of the page for such nonsense. 'Strain' in mushrooms is not the same as strain in pot growing, thus we keep 'strain talk' sequestered in it's own dungeon so people won't think it actually matters.
Provided courtesy of RR.

If there was no difference then why would there be different strains? Seems a little wrong to me.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151766 - 11/17/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said:
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JMcDoogle said: Read the rules. 6. Do NOT ask strain questions in cultivation. There is a sticky thread at the top of the page for such nonsense. 'Strain' in mushrooms is not the same as strain in pot growing, thus we keep 'strain talk' sequestered in it's own dungeon so people won't think it actually matters.
Provided courtesy of RR.

If there was no difference then why would there be different strains? Seems a little wrong to me.
Im just the messenger, providing you a friendly reminder.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151771 - 11/17/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well RR is wrong I think...
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151780 - 11/17/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why are you trolling in the cultivation forum?
Is there not a proper place for that type of behavior?
Please, take this shit elsewhere.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19151783 - 11/17/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151787 - 11/17/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, I am just trying to figure out what the best mushroom strain is. Why are you getting all uptight.
Just because I don't follow the dogma according to RR doesn't mean I am trolling...
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151791 - 11/17/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Dude, I am just trying to figure out what the best mushroom strain is. Why are you getting all uptight.
Just because I don't follow the dogma according to RR doesn't mean I am trolling...
You're obviously trolling.
Irregardless, this is not the proper place for this discussion.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151795 - 11/17/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I heard Z strain is the best because it grows fast and has a short recovery time between flushes.
I also heard Nah chapuu (or some weird thai name) is realy good for potency.
I heard penis envy is the best though.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151812 - 11/17/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: What's the best strain of mushroom?
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151840 - 11/17/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: I heard Z strain is the best because it grows fast and has a short recovery time between flushes.
I also heard Nah chapuu (or some weird thai name) is realy good for potency.
I heard penis envy is the best though.
Those are not strains, those are varieties of cubensis. They all have about the same potency. They just come from different parts of the world and some may look a little different from others.
The best strain for potency is psilocybe azurescens. Now please take any further discussion of this topic to the strain thread.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19151963 - 11/17/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Dude, I am just trying to figure out what the best mushroom strain is. Why are you getting all uptight.
Just because I don't follow the dogma according to RR doesn't mean I am trolling...
I think he is just this lost. Calm down this guy has no biology knowledge at all.
A strain is not what you think it is. When spores mate and make mycelium that's a strain. A spore syringe when used in a jar or on a petri plate will make 1000's of strains. The most potent one is selected using isolation on agar. So B+ Penis evny GT Creeper KSSS etc.... all have genetics on their spore prints that if isolated properly will give you a good fast colonizer, with potency, and good pinsets. Any "Variety" wrote on the side of a syringe might have "trends" if you do enough grows(N>10,50 or so) from spores but they're all cubes and you can isolate a good strain from any of them.
P.s. Yes sorry, Work=Results in this hobby, sorry this one doesn't have corners to be cut. Vendors would like you to think one is better than the other so you can come back and buy another syringe even though the first syringe you buy should last you the rest of your life if used properly.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152090 - 11/17/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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underfliptown said: Dude, I am just trying to figure out what the best mushroom strain is. Why are you getting all uptight.
Just because I don't follow the dogma according to RR doesn't mean I am trolling...
I think he is just this lost. Calm down this guy has no biology knowledge at all.
A strain is not what you think it is. When spores mate and make mycelium that's a strain. A spore syringe when used in a jar or on a petri plate will make 1000's of strains. The most potent one is selected using isolation on agar. So B+ Penis evny GT Creeper KSSS etc.... all have genetics on their spore prints that if isolated properly will give you a good fast colonizer, with potency, and good pinsets. Any "Variety" wrote on the side of a syringe might have "trends" if you do enough grows(N>10,50 or so) from spores but they're all cubes and you can isolate a good strain from any of them.
P.s. Yes sorry, Work=Results in this hobby, sorry this one doesn't have corners to be cut. Vendors would like you to think one is better than the other so you can come back and buy another syringe even though the first syringe you buy should last you the rest of your life if used properly.
 Have fun you have some reading to do. Check out the link in my signature, the first one Check out Mushroomvideos.com
I bought 2 spore syringes, and I don't plan on ever buying another one as long as I live.
The way it seems, you can make better isolates than you can ever achieve through syringes.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152105 - 11/17/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said:
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bodhisatta said:
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underfliptown said: Dude, I am just trying to figure out what the best mushroom strain is. Why are you getting all uptight.
Just because I don't follow the dogma according to RR doesn't mean I am trolling...
I think he is just this lost. Calm down this guy has no biology knowledge at all.
A strain is not what you think it is. When spores mate and make mycelium that's a strain. A spore syringe when used in a jar or on a petri plate will make 1000's of strains. The most potent one is selected using isolation on agar. So B+ Penis evny GT Creeper KSSS etc.... all have genetics on their spore prints that if isolated properly will give you a good fast colonizer, with potency, and good pinsets. Any "Variety" wrote on the side of a syringe might have "trends" if you do enough grows(N>10,50 or so) from spores but they're all cubes and you can isolate a good strain from any of them.
P.s. Yes sorry, Work=Results in this hobby, sorry this one doesn't have corners to be cut. Vendors would like you to think one is better than the other so you can come back and buy another syringe even though the first syringe you buy should last you the rest of your life if used properly.
 Have fun you have some reading to do. Check out the link in my signature, the first one Check out Mushroomvideos.com
I bought 2 spore syringes, and I don't plan on ever buying another one as long as I live.
The way it seems, you can make better isolates than you can ever achieve through syringes.
You need spores from a syringe(or print but it doesn't matter where) to get to an isolate. 
Isolates have to come from somewhere.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152122 - 11/17/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, i bought 2 spore syringes. I can make a LC from the best fruits from either of these.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152160 - 11/17/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Yes, i bought 2 spore syringes. I can make a LC from the best fruits from either of these.
skip the LC
Put your clones to agar. Then you'll be able to see if they're clean and you won't have to use a needle to inject your jars. You're going to need the same amount of good sterility(sterile tek) to make a clean LC from a clone anyway, just as clean(SAB or LFH ,sterile tek) as it has to be to do agar.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152195 - 11/17/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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underfliptown said: Yes, i bought 2 spore syringes. I can make a LC from the best fruits from either of these.
skip the LC
Put your clones to agar. Then you'll be able to see if they're clean and you won't have to use a needle to inject your jars. You're going to need the same amount of good sterility(sterile tek) to make a clean LC from a clone anyway, just as clean(SAB or LFH ,sterile tek) as it has to be to do agar.
I hear ya man, but i have no access to agar and I hate buying things online. It's too expensive. I am gonna start with LC and when I get some extra money I am gonna move onto agar if I feel teh need.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152211 - 11/17/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Might as well stick with spores then, just make more spore prints from your fruits and then syringes. You're going to need a lot of spores if you want to do LC since so many will most likely contam you'll want to make as many as possible and then test them on a single cake to see if they're viable,
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152221 - 11/17/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Might as well stick with spores then, just make more spore prints from your fruits and then syringes. You're going to need a lot of spores if you want to do LC since so many will most likely contam you'll want to make as many as possible and then test them on a single cake to see if they're viable,
No way dude. You just use a tissue sample from your best cluster and use that to innoc your LC.
Sterility for that isn't hard at all.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19152226 - 11/17/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You could also check an Asian market for agar-agar, if you don't like ordering things online...
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: OgreLokon]
#19152234 - 11/17/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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and have to deal with all the asians.... lol
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152235 - 11/17/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Might as well stick with spores then, just make more spore prints from your fruits and then syringes. You're going to need a lot of spores if you want to do LC since so many will most likely contam you'll want to make as many as possible and then test them on a single cake to see if they're viable,
No way dude. You just use a tissue sample from your best cluster and use that to innoc your LC.
Sterility for that isn't hard at all.
Ok man, I've been there done that, but make your own mistakes and setbacks. You'll see contams all the time when you work with agar and clone tissue, but you'll be able to have success in cleaning up the cultures. All those contams i routinely see even with inside the stem tissue would destroy a whole LC. On a plate they're not so devastating. Like I said you'll want to make a lot of LC's if you want to try that route, and a lot of test cakes too.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152236 - 11/17/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LCs are a really bad way to keep a constant clean amount of mycelium. i would suggest you make around 6 quarts of LC if you are dead set on doing LC. a few will inevitably become contaminated. best of luck to you though.
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Just moving tissue around in a SAB there's a contam spot on one of the three receiving dishes. I was still able to use that dish but if it were an LC it would have destroyed everything you inoculated with it. Moving clone tissue into a LC jar even in a SAB you can expect a good failure rate.
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Re: What's the best mushroom strain? [Re: underfliptown]
#19152785 - 11/17/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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