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Aesthetics
    #19151704 - 11/17/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19152193 - 11/17/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Life seems to be essentially good, that there is an objective goodness about it. Life may just be really great, so great, that when it creates brains whether by accident or teleology of some sort, it creates ones that appreciate art. The biochemical process of Nature is just one of astounding complexity and beauty, it's bound to create beings that are equally meaningful.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19152262 - 11/17/13 10:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think art is expression.

We all share the same emotions, but not all of us know how to express our feelings in a way that is tangible...We all could do it but it requires laying down one's ego for a moment, and that can be incredibly difficult.

From a mystical perspective, art is the closest thing we can do to being god.
The power to create solely from our will/imagination in a flavor all of its own.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: circastes] * 3
    #19152886 - 11/18/13 05:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Life seems to be essentially good, that there is an objective goodness about it. Life may just be really great, so great, that when it creates brains whether by accident or teleology of some sort, it creates ones that appreciate art. The biochemical process of Nature is just one of astounding complexity and beauty, it's bound to create beings that are equally meaningful.





You don't know what you're talking about imo. Unless talking out your :ass: is some form of knowing. :lol:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19153022 - 11/18/13 07:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In college I wrote a paper entitled something along the lines of 'Paradox in Aesthetic Theory - Union of Irreconcilable Opposites Bridges Gap of Unknowing." Or something.

My premise was that the aesthetics of something are an invoked flavor brought about through union of paradoxical situation which create something greater than the sum of the parts.  Keats - in his 'Letters' spoke of 'negative capability' which he said was something artists cultivated which was the ability to allow two irreconcilable things to coexist side by side without needing to make them fit. 

Somewhere you will find that within something you feel is beautiful there is a crux like this.

This bridging a gap within things also is the source of humor.  Humor doesn't make us understand, it makes us feel the gap within reason. That gaping hole in things is immensely funny.

Religion doesn't exist because people know things but because people don't know things.  It is the unknowing coming into being known, with just as much never making it to light. 

In fact the greatest thing is not knowledge but ignorance. Ignorance forces us to learn whereas knowledge forces us to sit back and feel content.

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Re: Aesthetics [Re: cez]
    #19154408 - 11/18/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think art is expression.





sure it is, but not every expression is art...

as for other issues attached to the comment, we best not assume that we are sharing emotion (exactly) nor anything about god (which is totally a wildcard)

there is precision in art; and aesthetics are not about vagueness.

Aesthetics rely on  rhythmic precisions that underly sensible progressions which  can be seen or heard.
They shift during the histories of societies yet always provide access to an appreciation of beauty - (not exactly a mathematic, but consistently it delivers works with expression in measurable series that mesh with what we can sense, and make sense out of.)

we look for those underlying patterns when evaluating the aesthetics of something


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19154858 - 11/18/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Rarely met an "artist" that doesn't think he's the genuine article.  Rarely met one that I think is.  What ever that art shit is. Art is just another thing people do and not more important.  Just a hobby that a few turn into a profession.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander] * 2
    #19154912 - 11/18/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Campbell soup can, FTW. Andy Warhol is a genius - or so people say. What about the obscure guy that actually designed the can?


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19155287 - 11/18/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Rarely met an "artist" that doesn't think he's the genuine article.  Rarely met one that I think is.  What ever that art shit is. Art is just another thing people do and not more important.  Just a hobby that a few turn into a profession.



Either sour grapes or outright disrespect


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #19155309 - 11/18/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Campbell soup can, FTW. Andy Warhol is a genius - or so people say. What about the obscure guy that actually designed the can?



What can.
Surely you se the painting and not the can.
There is no can
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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19156474 - 11/18/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Rarely met an "artist" that doesn't think he's the genuine article.  Rarely met one that I think is.  What ever that art shit is. Art is just another thing people do and not more important.  Just a hobby that a few turn into a profession.



Either sour grapes or outright disrespect





Disrespect ftw.  What's to respect??  :confused:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander] * 2
    #19156523 - 11/18/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

"Look Daddy! I made colored handprints on my bedroom walls."

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Re: Aesthetics [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19158341 - 11/19/13 05:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

everyone tune into the munchkin frequency: btw
isn't that a bubble fest instead of a handprint polka.

I could take it seriously and say it is not my aesthetic,
or  it is not the aesthetic that we want to pursue as a society,

but it provides comic relief, and that is huge.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19184217 - 11/24/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?




To me aesthetics serves the most obvious function of dulling death anxiety, that's a given in my opinion and covers all questions.

Sometimes I wonder though, poetry can run so deep as to take everything else with it and my reason included.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19185293 - 11/25/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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To me aesthetics serves the most obvious function of dulling death anxiety, that's a given in my opinion and covers all questions.

Sometimes I wonder though, poetry can run so deep as to take everything else with it and my reason included.




it is total nonsense what you are saying, art is to Satanism more then to scared people

let me explain to you what is art exactly,

in fact there is nothing but truth existence, which is superior sense absolutely till existence is absolutely right out of all being existing rights

the point of art, is what is a junction of plural things that has no connections at all between each others, no physical link nor in natural means nor in depth,, but they can be seen related and also physically, because of absolute sense in truth known
so actually anything could be turned to a piece of art to hide its fact in truth

like what you said is Satanist, as if misery could mean arts, misery is being negatively, so your relation with truth facts are not existing

that is why the art of third world countries is inferior standards of abstract realizations, showing how cut they are from truth existence they cant sense

but shows how they are possessed by evil gods ways of existing by forcing negativity on existence superiority, so they keep having powers on all realities forever

there is nothing but truth at the end, when it is the exclusive right source, so the only source of any and all


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19185576 - 11/25/13 06:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

yeuchh - so much junk in there absols


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19187240 - 11/25/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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To me aesthetics serves the most obvious function of dulling death anxiety, that's a given in my opinion and covers all questions.

Sometimes I wonder though, poetry can run so deep as to take everything else with it and my reason included.




it is total nonsense what you are saying, art is to Satanism more then to scared people

let me explain to you what is art exactly,

in fact there is nothing but truth existence, which is superior sense absolutely till existence is absolutely right out of all being existing rights

the point of art, is what is a junction of plural things that has no connections at all between each others, no physical link nor in natural means nor in depth,, but they can be seen related and also physically, because of absolute sense in truth known
so actually anything could be turned to a piece of art to hide its fact in truth

like what you said is Satanist, as if misery could mean arts, misery is being negatively, so your relation with truth facts are not existing

that is why the art of third world countries is inferior standards of abstract realizations, showing how cut they are from truth existence they cant sense

but shows how they are possessed by evil gods ways of existing by forcing negativity on existence superiority, so they keep having powers on all realities forever

there is nothing but truth at the end, when it is the exclusive right source, so the only source of any and all




Is English your 15th language?


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19187338 - 11/25/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19187346 - 11/25/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write





I don't know what you're talking about frankly, that's why I commented on your use of english.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19187385 - 11/25/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write




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Re: Aesthetics [Re: cez]
    #19187420 - 11/25/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

it's kinda sad


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19188757 - 11/25/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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absols said:
it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write





No need to take this so personally.  Your posts are difficult to decipher and that's that.  There is no other reason to mention this to you.  We are having trouble understanding you.  That's the bottom line.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19189065 - 11/25/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?




Hmm interesting question. I believe you are right when you say it all boils down to death anxiety. (Doesn't everything!) Every thing I came up with when thinking about this question all have at their roots preventing existential crisis.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19189841 - 11/25/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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absols said:
it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write





No need to take this so personally.  Your posts are difficult to decipher and that's that.  There is no other reason to mention this to you.  We are having trouble understanding you.  That's the bottom line.




it is you that mention the person, not me, I am only confirming what you are saying negatively, like pretending its reality, I cant be meaning myself in that post

the fact that you don't say, is what you don't like my ways of seeing things and the way I think, that is why you have a problem with my posts as they are too long for your taste, you hate to see my words..
again it is obvious that I am not personal with you, I see the issue objectively so neutrally
but it is you that cannot be but a person so reject different kind of being


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #19189855 - 11/25/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?




Hmm interesting question. I believe you are right when you say it all boils down to death anxiety. (Doesn't everything!) Every thing I came up with when thinking about this question all have at their roots preventing existential crisis.




so you mean that everything is about you and yourself will to exist ??

and what do you mean by existential crisis ?? if you want to exist, then you do not exist, you just could mean some things ... that are not about you

how do you picture your will to exist being the reason of existential issues ?? philosophically speaking of course


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19190108 - 11/26/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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absols said:
it is always the same fact in all forums

when someone is  pointing clearly negative means and ways, the reaction is to attack the person behind the post

English is my 250 th language, as i know all languages of the world and beyond

that is why i use English to talk about superiority of objective existence and true freedom values

yea it is so inferior how i write





No need to take this so personally.  Your posts are difficult to decipher and that's that.  There is no other reason to mention this to you.  We are having trouble understanding you.  That's the bottom line.




it is you that mention the person, not me, I am only confirming what you are saying negatively, like pretending its reality, I cant be meaning myself in that post

the fact that you don't say, is what you don't like my ways of seeing things and the way I think, that is why you have a problem with my posts as they are too long for your taste, you hate to see my words..
again it is obvious that I am not personal with you, I see the issue objectively so neutrally
but it is you that cannot be but a person so reject different kind of being





what?  I don't reject you.  I just won't bother to try and decipher these  posts and I'll quit responding to them. It's very simple on my end.  You can go on believing that we just don't want to get with your amazing wisdom.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19190320 - 11/26/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

how can I have wisdom when I am not wise ?? maybe you reject else freedom that is why you don't like myself expressions ways

actually freedom rights are being attacked so right people are who are defending freedom of always now

wise or wisdom is out of compromising fact, it is the belief that right is out of being present through others and else

what I defend is totally the opposite, absolute freedom of anyone and anything as the exclusive nature of rights


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19190337 - 11/26/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

well, I can understand absols fine, but it took a reread or two upon first reading his posts. it's a pretty interesting way he writes and would only work with English I presume.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19190352 - 11/26/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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how can I have wisdom when I am not wise ?? maybe you reject else freedom that is why you don't like myself expressions ways







It has nothing to do with not liking and everything to do with not comprehending. 

I guess you and hTx can party on.  I'm pretty much done trying to get through to you.


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    #19190353 - 11/26/13 03:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well, I can understand absols fine, but it took a reread or two upon first reading his posts. it's a pretty interesting way he writes and would only work with English I presume.





I'm so happy for you.  Maybe you can provide translations. :wink:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19190361 - 11/26/13 03:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ok here is an experiment.
I will block copy some of my own text and run it through google translate to japanese and then to french and then to hebrew and then to english and repost it.

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私は、意識、思考、経


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19190364 - 11/26/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ok here is an experiment.
I will block copy some of my own text and run it through google translate to japanese and then to french and then to hebrew and then to english and repost it.

here is the result:

I like to think of consciousness, thought, it's experience.
Crawling in my meditation, as well as objects of meditation, it is also contemplation.

My mind is running with the idea, is compatible with the character of the variation of the experiment.

Has proved a waste of human skin significantly, I, like many smart people and stupid people, much more from the view of mankind throughout history, because I'm pretty.

And yet (some people you can tell), you are not alone intelligent man -


While it is quaint

- it no longer means what I meant, too much conceptual entropy here as the ideas drift farther from their origins,
little to nothing makes sense,
it was my introduction to the thread about the squid

- I think absols is google translated 4 times from something very unusual


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19190365 - 11/26/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So you're saying he's a troll?

I like to think of consciousness, thought, it's experience.
Crawling in my meditation, as well as objects of meditation, it is also contemplation.

My mind is running with the idea, is compatible with the character of the variation of the experiment.

Has proved a waste of human skin significantly, I, like many smart people and stupid people, much more from the view of mankind throughout history, because I'm pretty.

And yet (some people you can tell), you are not alone intelligent man -



btw this may be the first time I can understand you. :lol:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19190368 - 11/26/13 03:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

translation is a strange way to become lost, but it really worked for us :wink:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19190488 - 11/26/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

thread topic
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    #19190524 - 11/26/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry for your loss. :hissyfit:


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19190592 - 11/26/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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tymoteusz3 said:
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Repertoire89 said:
What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?




Hmm interesting question. I believe you are right when you say it all boils down to death anxiety. (Doesn't everything!) Every thing I came up with when thinking about this question all have at their roots preventing existential crisis.




so you mean that everything is about you and yourself will to exist ??

and what do you mean by existential crisis ?? if you want to exist, then you do not exist, you just could mean some things ... that are not about you

how do you picture your will to exist being the reason of existential issues ?? philosophically speaking of course




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Re: Aesthetics [Re: hTx]
    #19191043 - 11/26/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well, I can understand absols fine, but it took a reread or two upon first reading his posts. it's a pretty interesting way he writes and would only work with English I presume.




thank you for your honesty
and I am glad that you see how my posts are really English !


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    #19191081 - 11/26/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cause the rest of us are being dishonest. :laugh:


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    #19191086 - 11/26/13 09:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I was honest too.
always have been.

100%


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    #19191099 - 11/26/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:


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    #19191101 - 11/26/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I was honest too.
always have been.

100%




Not 101%?
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    #19191127 - 11/26/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if you have some little additive, i would be open to expansion.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19191167 - 11/26/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you would never get anything from what obviously you don't get what a thing is

negative things are lies in all ways possible

that is how too truth is an absolute certain value which is confirmed by the absolute positive character of what honesty always point

being honest is necessarily about meaning something right or good, something positive

because honesty involve the self element, which is like absolute freedom being, it cant be but through positive plus sense

from what the self must be before meaning and freedom is the absence of else before willing, so existence is through those two elements positive superiority ways, while in truth freedom and self are the same fact, absence of else as lonely presence

and that is why any mean that do not involve the self is negative end

which prove how far I am right, by saying that existence is opposed to one, the fundamental principle applied in existence is present  relativity right of any to all freedom superior values 


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19191238 - 11/26/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

your name absols relates to your affinity to absolutes.
there lies an aesthetic in itself - I never lie, except to go to bed.
I also avoid all absolutes and have been trying to avoid you too.


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19191321 - 11/26/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

not lying is not, being honest, this also what your ways of reasoning are opposite to mines

being honest is positive being

not lying, is the negation of being negative, when it is about self and from it is like nothing, fifty fifty positive and negative, when you are like negating yourself without pointing something else being positive

I am not pointing you negatively, I am just saying that there is no evidence of you being honest

otherwise you would say what you believe negative being a positive existence source maybe equal to what positive is also negative existence source

and what you don't believe that only positive is sustainable or could justify objective universal life maybe even better then the one we know

if you were honest you would jump faster  to your own positive ends

honesty means always positive ends in truth

anyway I don't want to get banned from here I like this forum for now
so I will stop arguing with you


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    #19191453 - 11/26/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

anyway I don't want to get banned from here I like this forum for now
so I will stop arguing with you


Nice to see another poster not bothering to read and understand the forum rules.  :thumbup:


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    #19191744 - 11/26/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I received a warning already you should know that, see how honest you are ??


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19191760 - 11/26/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Why should I know that?  I never flagged any post of yours.  It appears I'm not only honest but more logical and less suspicious.

And you certainly didn't get a warning for arguing.  My guess is that you were rambling off topic. Arguing is not against this forums rules.  Try reading them. :thumbup:


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    #19192337 - 11/26/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what forums rules have anything to do with logics or being suspicious ..

you know that I had a warning as you apparently are one of the administrator here, and mostly the object of warning was because of a post addressed to you, on internet tough guys thread, where you suggested and said bad things about me, so I replied directly to defend myself rights  ..

we were arguing nothing else and it was about the fights people behind their screen hold against each others freely in abusing the situation of the net... so it was hundred percent in the topic and not off

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    #19192371 - 11/26/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i wont carry anymore this conversation with you




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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols] * 1
    #19192396 - 11/26/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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what forums rules have anything to do with logics or being suspicious ..

you know that I had a warning as you apparently are one of the administrator here, and mostly the object of warning was because of a post addressed to you, on internet tough guys thread, where you suggested and said bad things about me, so I replied directly to defend myself rights  ..

we were arguing nothing else and it was about the fights people behind their screen hold against each others freely in abusing the situation of the net... so it was hundred percent in the topic and not off

i wont carry anymore this conversation with you




I have no clue what you are talking about.  You seem to have some fantasy going on in your head that bears no resemblance to what is actually going on here.

Maybe you could have one of your kids translate your posts into english so I'd come just a tad closer to understanding what you are trying to say. I don't speak French.

It might be worth your while to take a class in English so you can construct a coherent sentence. :thumbup:


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    #19192553 - 11/26/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

see ?? you are proving the point, attacking me directly my rights as a poster and as a human being
go learn English yourself and let your kids or your gods write instead of you

while my post couldn't be more clear, but as it was about another conversation on another thread, you jump on the occasion to reject everything especially me, just for powers over right beings

how negative rule positive in existence realms is all to evil ways that would reach evil life impossibility as nothing else is left

good for you and your references

good and right are relative !


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    #19192632 - 11/26/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I neither reject you or everything.  You insist that you are being perfectly clear even though several people have told you otherwise.  Why isn't this happening to anyone else?  Ever stop to consider that?  Maybe if you took a moment to listen rather than react negatively you might learn something about how you are coming across. 

Do you see how saying something like " my post couldn't be more clear" is the height of hubris?  Anyones post could be more clear.  No one is perfect except  you.  Problem is no one agrees but you.  Oh and hTx.


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    #19192642 - 11/26/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i wont carry anymore this conversation with you




Good because this thread had a good start and has been running through the gutters for awhile now




if only you could see how there cant be any good when such bad is the rule force

good and right are supposedly about what is superior objectively !


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: Icelander]
    #19192655 - 11/26/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

'Hubris' is so September. 'Dilatory' is the November Word of the Month, but you only have a few days left to use it.


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    #19192666 - 11/26/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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well, I can understand absols fine, but it took a reread or two upon first reading his posts. it's a pretty interesting way he writes and would only work with English I presume.





I'm so happy for you.  Maybe you can provide translations. :wink:




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    #19192690 - 11/26/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I neither reject you or everything.  You insist that you are being perfectly clear even though several people have told you otherwise.  Why isn't this happening to anyone else?  Ever stop to consider that?  Maybe if you took a moment to listen rather than react negatively you might learn something about how you are coming across. 

Do you see how saying something like " my post couldn't be more clear" is the height of hubris?  Anyones post could be more clear.  No one is perfect except  you.  Problem is no one agrees but you.  Oh and hTx.




how clarity is about being perfect ?? you are completely crazy of the opportunist you are, completely beside any point

you claimed being not aware of the warning I received, that was clear from you

I brought the evidence that you were , that was perfectly clear from me

and how is it your business to judge posters selves means in such harmless spaces as forums ?? says the hypocrite you are to use the net as an easy way to mean being up over others negatively, so by hitting others down first

symbolically as if it would mean everyone from anyone, when the net is about no one


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    #19192719 - 11/26/13 03:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you claimed being not aware of the warning I received, that was clear from you

OK that's it.  I told you already I had no idea you got a warning or what it was for.  You are out and out lying saying this.  So put up or shut the fuck up.  Lets see your proof.:braindamage:


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    #19192784 - 11/26/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

shut the fuck up yourself

it is incredible those giant balls you suddenly have when you fancy on being in powers over your head

guts are supposedly about taking risks and not your comfortable state out of knowing how inferiority force everything rights, so negative means or evil wills see suddenly their balls growing bigger then their heads


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    #19192806 - 11/26/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your outrage is noted. But you still have not provided any evidence whatsoever that you are not LYING to everyone here.


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    #19192937 - 11/26/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what outrage ?? again it is never about me when it is all to talk about you

I didn't say anything to prove nor did any, I keep repeating self freedom right to be relatively anything it wants out of everything else

while it is up to you who judge others and claim having what everything need.. to start and show some facts


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Re: Aesthetics [Re: absols]
    #19192949 - 11/26/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what?

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you claimed being not aware of the warning I received, that was clear from you


:nono:


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    #19193101 - 11/26/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

google translate might help,
I thought it was pretty good


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    #19193229 - 11/26/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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google translate might help,
I thought it was pretty good




I used babblefish, for anyone interested the results are below



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    #19193257 - 11/26/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Frankly that's a lot easier to decipher.


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    #19193427 - 11/26/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

subtitles without video are much harder


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    #19203030 - 11/28/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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ok here is an experiment.
I will block copy some of my own text and run it through google translate to japanese and then to french and then to hebrew and then to english and repost it.

here is the result:

I like to think of consciousness, thought, it's experience.
Crawling in my meditation, as well as objects of meditation, it is also contemplation.

My mind is running with the idea, is compatible with the character of the variation of the experiment.

Has proved a waste of human skin significantly, I, like many smart people and stupid people, much more from the view of mankind throughout history, because I'm pretty.

And yet (some people you can tell), you are not alone intelligent man -


While it is quaint

- it no longer means what I meant, too much conceptual entropy here as the ideas drift farther from their origins,
little to nothing makes sense,
it was my introduction to the thread about the squid

- I think absols is google translated 4 times from something very unusual





:willienelson:

I have to admit, I'm impressed at absols's tenacity when it comes to writing novel-length posts that practically 99% of the people browsing this forum can't understand.  :lol:


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    #19203798 - 11/29/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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What is it?
What biological function does it serve?

Why do the various arts affect us as they do? Why does a beautiful scenery affect us?




Being in awe thus trying to preserve that notion?

This cave is good, me like cave, me keep cave.


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    #19203873 - 11/29/13 07:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

and we saw that it was good


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    #19203877 - 11/29/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry for the oversimplification :lol:


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    #19204507 - 11/29/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

arts cant be that, why do you love to lie at yourself constantly ? this is the art sense you got

feeling good about getting objective justification to pretend being ok

so you got a hand on free things plus a sense of being out of things, positively free

again, I am just playing here im not meaning anything about anyone, philosophical rants in pushing logics out of meaning wills


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    #19204560 - 11/29/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

torrents of free art - absolutely right absols - see me at pirate bay


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