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Dirtygoat
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Stupid question
#19151636 - 11/17/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, so this might be a stupid question but hopefully it's a simple one too.
I was just wondering if the SGFC needs holes? Idk if I can use a drill with out being suspicious and I would hate to make sloppy holes. Also I'm using a bunch of 3 litter soda bottles
Like if I just air out the bottle often what's the point of having holes too?
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19151643 - 11/17/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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C'mon. You trollin?
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Dirtygoat
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151649 - 11/17/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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No.. I did say it might be a stupid question didn't I? You don't have to be a butt
Edited by Dirtygoat (11/17/13 08:31 PM)
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19151659 - 11/17/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, Hold on to my hand while I get your information for you.
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Dirtygoat
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151669 - 11/17/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man.. Screw you. I did look I'm on this site like 3h a day.. Everyone just said they put holes in their chamber I was just wondering what's the point if you still fan out and mist 3 times a day
Edited by Dirtygoat (11/17/13 08:34 PM)
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151679 - 11/17/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
Of the top of my head you'll want to space holes 2 inches apart in a grid patern, on all six sides ( yes the bottom, and the top) Fill with 4-5 Inches of Hydrated Perlite.
You'll mist and fan 3-4 Times a Day.
Misting your cakes, spawn directly.
Fanning provides evaporation, and fae. The evaporation is another pinning trigger, I believe. Dont quote me on that.
The fanning does induce higher humidity levels opposed to simply leaving the lid on, through the evaporation process.
Do not place a fan at/around the SGFC, you're normal air currents of the home will provide enough air movement provided you've constructed the SGFC properly.
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151688 - 11/17/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pictures courtesy of another thread, which I used the search function for, and found immediately.
BTW, I am not being an ass. Just constructive.
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151695 - 11/17/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes you need holes. Any deviation from the tek will result in fucking up big time. Any deviation. Ask yourself: am I deviating? If the answer is yes, don't do it. By the time you can deviate, you'll be writing teks not asking questions.
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Dirtygoat
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Re: Stupid question [Re: sytar]
#19151717 - 11/17/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you sytar for answering my question..
Jmcdoogle.. As I just said I'm on this site often, I've already seen what you just told me on like 10 different forums, I was wondering if the holes are completely necessary.. Maybe YOU should read more and re-read my question
... Also I said I was using a soda bottle didn't I?.. Shows me you didn't bother reading much past the first few words
Edited by Dirtygoat (11/17/13 08:47 PM)
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Re: Stupid question [Re: sytar]
#19151721 - 11/17/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holes are essential for making a SGFC. If you absolutely can't make the holes for some reason I would at least leave the lid cracked open simply as a better alternative to using a completely sealed tub, but it's not going give the kind of result a SGFC would.
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat] 1
#19151726 - 11/17/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dirtygoat said: Thank you sytar for answering my question..
Jmcdoogle.. As I just said I'm on this site often, I've already seen what you just told me on like 10 different forums, I was wondering if the holes are completely necessary.. Maybe YOU should read more and re-read my question
You're right, It is a stupid question.
Good luck on your quest.

Or..
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151774 - 11/17/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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W/e dude don't be a butt..
Thanks everyone else. I will make holes I just have to get the drill without being too suspicious.. Or would you guys have any other idea on how to make NOT SLOPPY holes without a drill?
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19151798 - 11/17/13 08:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Flame.
Something Circular, and Metal.
Poke.
Repeat.
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Re: Stupid question [Re: JMcDoogle]
#19151805 - 11/17/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh yea.. Lol
Thanks for being helpful..
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19151815 - 11/17/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i just used a knife and twisted it. They weren't the cleanest holes but they worked. Look at how awesome my shrooms turned out too:

lol... Not the best.
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19152036 - 11/17/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dirtygoat said: W/e dude don't be a butt..
Thanks everyone else. I will make holes I just have to get the drill without being too suspicious.
Yes, because every time I see someone with a drill I think "they must be up to no good".....
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19152114 - 11/17/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Stupid question [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19152149 - 11/17/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dirtygoat said:
Jmcdoogle.. As I just said I'm on this site often, I've already seen what you just told me on like 10 different forums, I was wondering if the holes are completely necessary.. Maybe YOU should read more and re-read my question
Yes, very necessary, No cutting corners work=results patience=shrooms
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bodhisatta said: Fruiting Chamber A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on.
Misting and Fanning. This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.
FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
I don't see why people can at least answer the question when they say to UTSE. I agree with the UTSE being said but at least answer it otherwise why bother posting in the thread at all, just move on to something you would like to reply to like a big kid.
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bodhisatta said:
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Dirtygoat said:
Jmcdoogle.. As I just said I'm on this site often, I've already seen what you just told me on like 10 different forums, I was wondering if the holes are completely necessary.. Maybe YOU should read more and re-read my question
Yes, very necessary, No cutting corners work=results patience=shrooms
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bodhisatta said: Fruiting Chamber A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on.
Misting and Fanning. This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.
FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
I don't see why people can at least answer the question when they say to UTSE. I agree with the UTSE being said but at least answer it otherwise why bother posting in the thread at all, just move on to something you would like to reply to like a big kid.
I gave more than an appropriate answer.
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