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InvisibleAlexestalex
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how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself
    #19151103 - 11/17/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Scenario: youre writing a quiz that you are not prepared for your answers are wrong and then you look to the side and catch a glimpse of a smart student's answers. You now know the right answers and can get 100% instead of a failing 20%. Do you change your answers? Do you consider academic integrity to be THAT important?

I personally would. I think universities often do things that cause students to be unfairly assessed. Like scheduling 4 midterms in one week for 90% of students in my pharmacology department..


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151109 - 11/17/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wrong wrong wrong


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Not Responding] * 3
    #19151131 - 11/17/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

you can't truly succeed without having failed first. you can't be satisfied in succeeding without having earned it.

you just cheat yourself when you cheat


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151170 - 11/17/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I would but just for the reason that I am not learning anything on the test, it's an evaluation. Cheating doesn't change what I walk away from the class with. Not taking a 100% opportunity to cheat when you know you're not going to do well is basically the same thing as not using deduction on multiple choice questions because you're not really sure of the answer. Wouldn't want to give myself credit I don't deserve ......lol


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151175 - 11/17/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alexestalex said:
Scenario: youre writing a quiz that you are not prepared for your answers are wrong and then you look to the side and catch a glimpse of a smart student's answers. You now know the right answers and can get 100% instead of a failing 20%. Do you change your answers? Do you consider academic integrity to be THAT important?

I personally would. I think universities often do things that cause students to be unfairly assessed. Like scheduling 4 midterms in one week for 90% of students in my pharmacology department..




No, it bears no meaning. Cheat your way to the top, it won't matter after school.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151194 - 11/17/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Alexestalex said:
Scenario: youre writing a quiz that you are not prepared for your answers are wrong and then you look to the side and catch a glimpse of a smart student's answers. You now know the right answers and can get 100% instead of a failing 20%. Do you change your answers? Do you consider academic integrity to be THAT important?

I personally would. I think universities often do things that cause students to be unfairly assessed. Like scheduling 4 midterms in one week for 90% of students in my pharmacology department..




No, it bears no meaning. "Cheat your" way to the top, it won't matter after school.

The person that admits to the mistake and gets repelled, ruining his chance(s) at a well-paid job for which he was studying.

Or the one that "cheats" and ends up with approval and a clean slate.

Yes, it is through an unfair method. Who's the smarter one?


Edited by Beanhead (11/17/13 06:40 PM)


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151199 - 11/17/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I have very little respect for US colleges. Theyre just a multi million dollar coorporation now a days. They don't truely care about their students why should I care about their superficial academic reputation:shrug:
fuck um theyre scamming people out of thousands of dollars a year


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Beanhead]
    #19151205 - 11/17/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Beanhead said:
Quote:

Alexestalex said:
Scenario: youre writing a quiz that you are not prepared for your answers are wrong and then you look to the side and catch a glimpse of a smart student's answers. You now know the right answers and can get 100% instead of a failing 20%. Do you change your answers? Do you consider academic integrity to be THAT important?

I personally would. I think universities often do things that cause students to be unfairly assessed. Like scheduling 4 midterms in one week for 90% of students in my pharmacology department..




No, it bears no meaning. Cheat your way to the top, it won't matter after school.




Agreed.  And im a student.  I don't actively cheat, but in the scenario presented... Meh :shrug: 

I don't see the governing body of my university earning any gold stars for integrity, I frankly don't see much of a reason to be anal about it myself.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Alexestalex]
    #19151207 - 11/17/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cheating takes skill therefore it's not cheating.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: i like cow poo]
    #19151208 - 11/17/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

i like cow poo said:
I have very little respect for US colleges. Theyre just a multi million dollar coorporation now a days. They don't truely care about their students why should I care about their superficial academic reputation:shrug:
fuck um theyre scamming people out of thousands of dollars a year




Also this.

I'm astonished how one gets indebted... For going to school.

Disgusting.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Beanhead]
    #19151217 - 11/17/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cheating is 'wrong', but our society rewards it anyway.  If you cheat and get caught, you are dispicable.  If you cheat and get away with it, especially if you make lots on money in the process, you are to be admired.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19151231 - 11/17/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

because when it comes down to it, people realize when you cheat, you're making up your own rules... in a world where rules are made up... and everything is made up... you can make up your own way, through all the bullshit, and get away with it, even if it's un-ethical... because you can do that, you're "winning"; thusly, you are to be admired.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Irfan]
    #19151236 - 11/17/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

integrity matters more than a shiny grade on a test you bullshitted.

you aren't cheating a university, you are lying to others and yourself.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: Schmendrick]
    #19151252 - 11/17/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You can choose to cheat or not to cheat. I suspect it makes no difference at all. If I were a professor I wouldn't let my students cheat, but I'm not a professor. A good class is not about the grade, but how the material affects your life and mind. A good student is someone who got something out of a class, not someone who only tried to score high.


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Re: how wrong is it to cheat when the opportunity presents itself [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19151547 - 11/17/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
Cheating takes skill therefore it's not cheating.




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